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Re: Switch on slider?
If you do a lot of large panel work,?IMHO definitely worth it. On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:17 PM Acharya Kumarnathaswami <kumar@...> wrote: I'm looking for insights and experience for deciding whether it's worth the extra cost to get the option of power switches on the end of the slider for a KF 700. (Cost is $1,000-plus, I think.) Is it something you use a lot, or is the switch panel on the side sufficient? Thanks. --
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Re: IWF 2020
Starting to drift, or already a flaming dumpster fire of misinformation? I second David's suggestion. Patrick
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Re: Getting started in shaper tooling
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开云体育Sure, if you expect to be walking around the machine it is a trip hazard. Believe me, you are doing the right thing by staying away from mag base. When things go wrong there could be a big impulse of power and not sure how the mag base will handle that. Besides safety, mag base is not going to work even with a 3 wheel feeder unless you are Mr. Universe. Feeder without assist on tilt bracket is bad enough for most and therefore, fortunately, someone came up with big lift. Imran On May 27, 2020, at 1:43 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
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Interference of the extra long horizontal pipe during the 99%+ of the time the feeder will be folded down. From the pictures people have shared it looks like the standard feeder folds in fairly well but I don’t know if the longer horizontal arm will be in the way – it’s another 14” to trip on. ? The attractiveness of the mag base idea was that I could use the standard setup and just reposition it and/or move it to a future band saw, but I want to take the advice of those skeptical of the manner of loading and unloading the feeder as well as questions about magnet holding power for a feeder that heavy. It also seems like the 1/4HP and smaller feeders might be underpowered and therefore not really a complete safety answer on the 4HP shaper? ? For saw use, there are times when I think back that the feeder might have been nice on my cabinet saw. I don’t know if that’s more or less true with the slider – fritz/franz jigs for small pieces and clamping to the sliding table instead of using the table saw fence for a reference, etc. ? I’m here to learn – if I’m confused, please tell me. ? Thanks ? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> ? Why do you say, forget using it in the saw? ? Imran?
? Thanks for all the pictures and input. Should I forget about using it on the saw and just get the tilting bracket plus a DC40? It seems like overkill for what I need, but I would prefer if possible to not break bones or have fingers forcibly removed, so if a big feeder is what that takes, I’m willing to make the cash and space investment. ? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Rossetti <rossetti@...> ? I turn mine quite a ways around so it’s not really in the way. Machine is a CF741 with the Felder gas strut swing-away bracket. <image001.jpg>
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Re: IWF 2020
开云体育This is starting to drift into political posturing. ?My request is that we drop this topic before the culture war infects this forum.David Best https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Re: Getting started in shaper tooling
#shapertools
开云体育Interference of the extra long horizontal pipe during the 99%+ of the time the feeder will be folded down. From the pictures people have shared it looks like the standard feeder folds in fairly well but I don’t know if the longer horizontal arm will be in the way – it’s another 14” to trip on. ? The attractiveness of the mag base idea was that I could use the standard setup and just reposition it and/or move it to a future band saw, but I want to take the advice of those skeptical of the manner of loading and unloading the feeder as well as questions about magnet holding power for a feeder that heavy. It also seems like the 1/4HP and smaller feeders might be underpowered and therefore not really a complete safety answer on the 4HP shaper? ? For saw use, there are times when I think back that the feeder might have been nice on my cabinet saw. I don’t know if that’s more or less true with the slider – fritz/franz jigs for small pieces and clamping to the sliding table instead of using the table saw fence for a reference, etc. ? I’m here to learn – if I’m confused, please tell me. ? Thanks ? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> ? Why do you say, forget using it in the saw? ? Imran?
? Thanks for all the pictures and input. Should I forget about using it on the saw and just get the tilting bracket plus a DC40? It seems like overkill for what I need, but I would prefer if possible to not break bones or have fingers forcibly removed, so if a big feeder is what that takes, I’m willing to make the cash and space investment. ? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Rossetti <rossetti@...> ? I turn mine quite a ways around so it’s not really in the way. Machine is a CF741 with the Felder gas strut swing-away bracket. <image001.jpg>
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Re: Getting started in shaper tooling
#shapertools
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On May 27, 2020, at 1:13 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
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Thanks for all the pictures and input. Should I forget about using it on the saw and just get the tilting bracket plus a DC40? It seems like overkill for what I need, but I would prefer if possible to not break bones or have fingers forcibly removed, so if a big feeder is what that takes, I’m willing to make the cash and space investment. ? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Rossetti <rossetti@...> ? I turn mine quite a ways around so it’s not really in the way. Machine is a CF741 with the Felder gas strut swing-away bracket. <image001.jpg> -- - Dave Rossetti, Santa Fe |
Re: What sandpaper grits to order?
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My two head gets 120-180.? The machine has basic adjustments and shares one motor.? When I need a lower grit, I remove the platen to take the second head out of the picture so I don't mess with the relationship between the two heads.? In some ways, a single
head is easier to cope with in a small usage shop.? My small 25" is set to match the planer with 180 ( assuming the battery hasn't died ).? If I go to lower than 150 I add X thou depending on the grit to compensate so I don't screw up my setting for the 180
planer match which is 90% of my use on that machine.? Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 12:47 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] What sandpaper grits to order? ?
We have 120 on our machine most times. We buy 60 and 80 for slab leveling work, and also 180. As Dave said, the 180 with the platten leaves a remarkable surface. That's a nice little machine, you'll enjoy it. Had one quite a few years ago now.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 |
Re: Getting started in shaper tooling
#shapertools
开云体育Thanks for all the pictures and input. Should I forget about using it on the saw and just get the tilting bracket plus a DC40? It seems like overkill for what I need, but I would prefer if possible to not break bones or have fingers forcibly removed, so if a big feeder is what that takes, I’m willing to make the cash and space investment. ? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Rossetti <rossetti@...> ? I turn mine quite a ways around so it’s not really in the way. Machine is a CF741 with the Felder gas strut swing-away bracket. |
Re: IWF 2020
开云体育A close friend is a Dr volunteer on the county medial board for Maricopa Co AZ.? Apparently 80% of AZ deaths are in nursing homes or on the Navajo Nation where 38% of home have no running water.? The median stay in a nursing home before death is 5 months.? The averages is 14 months which is skewed by a small number of people who live there for a long time.? Before Covid people would pass away in a nursing home from all matter of things, even an ear infection.? Now Covid is the “cause” of death but most of these folks were just one setback from anything away from death.? Remember that a nursing home is a skilled care facility for people who need round the clock skilled and nursing care. ?
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On Behalf Of Brian Lamb
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 9:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] IWF 2020 ? Tough spot to be in, especially with the media hype and hysteria. The regular flu kills 50k-80k people a year and nobody gets their knicker in a knot over that… and before someone says this is going to be much worse, realize that the positive testings for Covid at about 50% accurate and hospitals get an immediate $35k from the government if they can stretch any reason to put Covid on a death certificate.? ? Reminds me of when my dad passed away a couple years ago, he was 92, and they wanted to blame his death on smoking… he hadn’t smoke in over 45 years, and he died from of all things, an ear infection that they couldn’t get his system to beat.
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Re: IWF 2020
开云体育Tough spot to be in, especially with the media hype and hysteria. The regular flu kills 50k-80k people a year and nobody gets their knicker in a knot over that… and before someone says this is going to be much worse, realize that the positive testings for Covid at about 50% accurate and hospitals get an immediate $35k from the government if they can stretch any reason to put Covid on a death certificate.?Reminds me of when my dad passed away a couple years ago, he was 92, and they wanted to blame his death on smoking… he hadn’t smoke in over 45 years, and he died from of all things, an ear infection that they couldn’t get his system to beat.
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Re: What sandpaper grits to order?
We have 120 on our machine most times. We buy 60 and 80 for slab leveling work, and also 180. As Dave said, the 180 with the platten leaves a remarkable surface. That's a nice little machine, you'll enjoy it. Had one quite a few years ago now.
Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 |
Re: What sandpaper grits to order?
开云体育Thanks David. Placed order with Klingspore. They have $7.99 flat rate shipping right now. Not sure if they usually do this. Last time I ordered from them was many yrs ago. Imran? On May 27, 2020, at 11:20 AM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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I don't go above 120 on the little Rigid but use it mainly to shape sand.? On the widebelts I don't go higher than 180.? The oscillation and platen give a little better finish than the grit would suggest and 180 turns into 220 after a few passes so that is
as far as I go.? If I want a higher polish type sand I use the ROS.? 150 or 180 off the planer is what I use most often.? With high grits you need to be very exact in setting the depth as you can only err a few thou before screwing up the paper.? Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:10 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] What sandpaper grits to order? ?
I have the Northstate 16” WB sander. Even though manual says 16” belt I received it with 17” wide belts and I do not see anything wrong with the width. This is a freebie question, please let me know if you have any suggestions?
Okay, so this WBS is new to me and I received it with 80, 120 & 150 belts. 120 & 150 seem close. Planning to order 60, 120 & 220. Sound good? I also just bought rigid oscillating sander Came with 80 grit on belt and drums. Klingspor has a set of 60, 100 & 150. Do I need any higher grits? On belt I am ordering 40, 80, 150 & 220. Sounds good? As far as materials go, solid soft & hard woods, ply and occasional metals on the rigid. Thanks, Imran |
Re: What sandpaper grits to order?
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On May 27, 2020, at 12:37 PM, jmkserv@... wrote:
? Depending on setup you can get some interesting effects on reclaimed wood where perfectly flat is not a requirement.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> Date: 2020-05-27 11:59 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] What sandpaper grits to order? John, When do you use WBS as a planer? With DRO on wood planer I can get what I want. Just curious? I guess could be a material you do not want to run on planer, dirty wood? Imran On May 27, 2020, at 11:51 AM, jmkserv@... wrote: ?
IMHO if you want to use the WB as a Planer get 60 grit. Most of my work is after planing or resawing and the 120 works great and is the most used. I do have 80, 100 and 150 grit. They are used when needed.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> Date: 2020-05-27 11:11 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: [FOG] What sandpaper grits to order? Okay, so this WBS is new to me and I received it with 80, 120 & 150 belts. 120 & 150 seem close. Planning to order 60, 120 & 220. Sound good? I also just bought rigid oscillating sander Came with 80 grit on belt and drums. Klingspor has a set of 60, 100 & 150. Do I need any higher grits? On belt I am ordering 40, 80, 150 & 220. Sounds good? As far as materials go, solid soft & hard woods, ply and occasional metals on the rigid. Thanks, Imran |
Re: What sandpaper grits to order?
开云体育Depending on setup you can get some interesting effects on reclaimed wood where perfectly flat is not a requirement.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> Date: 2020-05-27 11:59 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] What sandpaper grits to order? John, When do you use WBS as a planer? With DRO on wood planer I can get what I want. Just curious? I guess could be a material you do not want to run on planer, dirty wood? Imran On May 27, 2020, at 11:51 AM, jmkserv@... wrote: ? IMHO if you want to use the WB as a Planer get 60 grit. Most of my work is after planing or resawing and the 120 works great and is the most used. I do have 80, 100 and 150 grit. They are used when needed.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> Date: 2020-05-27 11:11 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: [FOG] What sandpaper grits to order? Okay, so this WBS is new to me and I received it with 80, 120 & 150 belts. 120 & 150 seem close. Planning to order 60, 120 & 220. Sound good? I also just bought rigid oscillating sander Came with 80 grit on belt and drums. Klingspor has a set of 60, 100 & 150. Do I need any higher grits? On belt I am ordering 40, 80, 150 & 220. Sounds good? As far as materials go, solid soft & hard woods, ply and occasional metals on the rigid. Thanks, Imran |
Re: IWF 2020
It seems most comments are in the no-go column but assume most are seasoned woodworkers and non-work related.? My company rented exhibit space in Hall A.? Finale 25% payment is due June 5, it was extended from May 5 when no decision was made to have the show.? I expect attendance to be way down.? International will probably be the largest missing part. We will have to decide next week whether to cut losses or go and hope for a few good prospects.
BTW, there is no comparison between IWF and Las Vegas in overall size.? They both have the smaller shop equipment but IWF has the big automated industrial system suppliers like Weinig, Stiles, Dieffenbacher, Atlas Copco, Akzo Noble, Grass Blume, and several? hardwood and board suppliers.? Whole systems are set up and running.? A bigger wow factor. If you are waiting for a vaccine, it could be a long one. |
Re: What sandpaper grits to order?
开云体育John, When do you use WBS as a planer? With DRO on wood planer I can get what I want. Just curious? I guess could be a material you do not want to run on planer, dirty wood? Imran On May 27, 2020, at 11:51 AM, jmkserv@... wrote:
? IMHO if you want to use the WB as a Planer get 60 grit. Most of my work is after planing or resawing and the 120 works great and is the most used. I do have 80, 100 and 150 grit. They are used when needed.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> Date: 2020-05-27 11:11 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: [FOG] What sandpaper grits to order? Okay, so this WBS is new to me and I received it with 80, 120 & 150 belts. 120 & 150 seem close. Planning to order 60, 120 & 220. Sound good? I also just bought rigid oscillating sander Came with 80 grit on belt and drums. Klingspor has a set of 60, 100 & 150. Do I need any higher grits? On belt I am ordering 40, 80, 150 & 220. Sounds good? As far as materials go, solid soft & hard woods, ply and occasional metals on the rigid. Thanks, Imran |
Re: IWF 2020
开云体育You both may be in for a big surprise but only time will tell which scenario will play out. Spin the wheel and takes your chances, LOL.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> Date: 2020-05-27 11:40 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] IWF 2020
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Re: What sandpaper grits to order?
开云体育IMHO if you want to use the WB as a Planer get 60 grit. Most of my work is after planing or resawing and the 120 works great and is the most used. I do have 80, 100 and 150 grit. They are used when needed.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> Date: 2020-05-27 11:11 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: [FOG] What sandpaper grits to order? Okay, so this WBS is new to me and I received it with 80, 120 & 150 belts. 120 & 150 seem close. Planning to order 60, 120 & 220. Sound good? I also just bought rigid oscillating sander Came with 80 grit on belt and drums. Klingspor has a set of 60, 100 & 150. Do I need any higher grits? On belt I am ordering 40, 80, 150 & 220. Sounds good? As far as materials go, solid soft & hard woods, ply and occasional metals on the rigid. Thanks, Imran |