If ACM is now the supplier of the MM saws, the Felder industrial line sourced from ACM is the same.? I believe Laguna's larger saws are still ACM too although it takes some courage to deal with Laguna. I don't know if Centauro has an importer in the US now.?
Used 24x17 Centauro or ACM can be found in the 2-3K range with a three phase motor.? Another $400 for a vfd and you are in business.? I had an 18" ACM and felt it was too light for serious resawing.? Nice for small stuff but nothing like my old Y20 Snowflake
for that purpose.? Dave
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Bill,
Since FB510 does not meet your expectations, sell it and buy a different brand maybe MiniMax / SCM.
You have Kappa slider, I think you should pair your?Kappa with a better bandsaw :)
James
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:58 PM Bill B¨¦langer < bllblngr@...> wrote:
I agree James, it¡¯s just that I really like the bandsaw and this one is not performing. I¡¯m hoping that it¡¯s just me that can not fine tune this machine.?
At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James
Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post??
Regards, Mark
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I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James?
But is the post through the whole range parallel?
Regards, Mark
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Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??
Regards, Mark
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Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would
check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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I just do not see how to adjust the parallelism of the post on FB510 which is really a simple machine, nothing fancy.
It does cut straight when the blade is properly installed, and the blade makes difference.
James
So you are saying that the Felder fb510 is not a precision machine and since that is the case the guide should not be parallel to the blade or be able to be adjusted parallel to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark ? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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So you are saying that the Felder fb510 is not a precision machine and since that is the case the guide should not be parallel to the blade or be able to be adjusted parallel to the blade?? Regards, Mark
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On Feb 14, 2020, at 11:35 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark ? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Bill,
Since FB510 does not meet your expectations, sell it and buy a different brand maybe MiniMax / SCM.
You have Kappa slider, I think you should pair your?Kappa with a better bandsaw :)
James
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:58 PM Bill B¨¦langer < bllblngr@...> wrote: I agree James, it¡¯s just that I really like the bandsaw and this one is not performing. I¡¯m hoping that it¡¯s just me that can not fine tune this machine.? At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark ? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Bill,
I would put the saw on a solid base or even put it on a couple of 2 x 4¡¯s for testing. ?During my testing, motor ran smooth by itself, and with belt on and lower wheel spinning. ? It even ran smooth with blade on and no guides touching. ?Do you have a dial indicator to check for run out? ? Have you tried different blades?
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I agree James, it¡¯s just that I really like the bandsaw and this one is not performing. I¡¯m hoping that it¡¯s just me that can not fine tune this machine.?
At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark ? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Thanks James. ? Maybe this brings peace of mind for me. ? I know that it is not a precision machine, but this should not be happening. ?The Felder tech was puzzled as well.
Have a great evening,
jay
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Bill, if the wheel stopped at 12 a few times, I doubt the wheel is the main cause.? I don't think a magnet will stay in place when under power and that could wreck your blade if it is thrown off.? Can you feel any dimples on the back of the wheel that would
indicate balancing?? My old ( 1936 ) Oliver had a couple of screws with lead washers on it for balance.? It is a little out now but that is only evident as it starts or slows.? At speed it levels out.? My Yates is totally free of any vibration but that is
newer ( 1938 ).? Dave
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I spun the top wheel 13 times. 10 times it came to rest at 5-6-7 o¡¯clock. 3 times it stopped at 12. How much weight and what type of weight would I use??
Ran the motor alone, minimal vibration, not ?really smooth.?
This saw is sitting on the mobility device. I need to try it on a solid base tomorrow. That should help some.?
Bill Belanger?
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??
Regards, Mark
?
Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would
check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Jay,
I will try it and let you know tomorrow.
James
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:33 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: James,
That is the knob that I am talking about and it does move the guide to the side. ? I snug that knob down and adjust the guides accordingly. ? If i go to tight, then it vibrates as shown in the video. ? I¡¯m curious if you tighten the knob if yours would vibrate the same? ??
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At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James
Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark ? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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James,
That is the knob that I am talking about and it does move the guide to the side. ? I snug that knob down and adjust the guides accordingly. ? If i go to tight, then it vibrates as shown in the video. ? I¡¯m curious if you tighten the knob if yours would vibrate the same? ??
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Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark
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On Feb 14, 2020, at 11:04 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James?
But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels
I do have this dial indicator for an A31 and find it useful and wonder if it really works on a K500 for the blade height.
Let me explain:
The OEM handwheels for a K500 blade height is not fixed to the arbor as you need to remove it to lock the blade angle adjustment. There is a lot of play when you turn the wheel due to the fact that the wheel is not lock. Thus, I do not see how useful the dial indicator with the ALU wheel can be as long as this play is present.
If anyone has use the dial indicator with the ALU wheel for the blade height adjustment can shim in that would be nice. So far, I use a oneway gauge and dial indicator, but this is laborious overtime as I need to get the apex of the blade tooth for proper measurement. I am looking for a more permanent setup for which you adjust one time and use it many many times.
Thanks,
Bill
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But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark
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On Feb 14, 2020, at 10:44 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Well material can be removed or added to balance. I would try a magnet first. I have never done this but the thought came to mind.
Imran On Feb 15, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Bill B¨¦langer <bllblngr@...> wrote:
? I spun the top wheel 13 times. 10 times it came to rest at 5-6-7 o¡¯clock. 3 times it stopped at 12. How much weight and what type of weight would I use??
Ran the motor alone, minimal vibration, not ?really smooth.?
This saw is sitting on the mobility device. I need to try it on a solid base tomorrow. That should help some.?
Bill Belanger? Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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My ¡°top guide¡± was rubbing on the top wheel. I bent it out a little. I would have expected that of a Rikon.?
Bill B
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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I spun the top wheel 13 times. 10 times it came to rest at 5-6-7 o¡¯clock. 3 times it stopped at 12. How much weight and what type of weight would I use??
Ran the motor alone, minimal vibration, not ?really smooth.?
This saw is sitting on the mobility device. I need to try it on a solid base tomorrow. That should help some.?
Bill Belanger?
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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One would hope the technician would know how to adjust the guides¡
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Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Bill Belanger
imran