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Re: Butt Bar
I honestly cannot imagine using a slider without the butt bar. Unless you have your crosscut fence at the front (closest to you) and all you cut is small parts. For processing sheets or anything else large with the fence in the rear position, it's essential-especially if you don't have pneumatic clamps. The butt bar is what allows you to be able to keep the sheet against the fence.
Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 |
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Re: Airlines for new shop
FWIW I just used the rubber air hose. Easy in and around corners and through holes....Used conduit clamps where necessary. Not fancy but easy. Bill Belanger? On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 08:55 Gerald Yungling via Groups.Io <gyungling=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
That was from 10 years ago.. I guess maybe things have changed now.. I'm just going off what the Felder tech told me to use..it really seems to help..I made sure I wiped off the tracks afterwards?
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 07:52:22 AM PST, jmkserv@... <jmkserv@...> wrote:
Excerpt from 2010 K700S manual.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: "Randy Child via Groups.Io" <strongman_one@...> Date: 2020-01-29 10:41 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Lubricant for sliding table Ok..upon close examination, it appears that the track is dovetailed in..
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 07:24:43 AM PST, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Slider track cleaning is on my list of things on the new for me (used) K975. I have some time on my hand while in Pakistan and stumbled on a video on utube on slider maintenance. The interesting thing I learned is that the steel guides in some cases are glued therefore one needs to be careful about what to use and how to apply. So spray the cleaner on cloth and then apply to the guide. Likely not applicable to Felder but can anyone let me know how Felder and Hammer guides are secured? Imran On Jan 29, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? I wonder if the?Ballistol multipurpose available on amazon is the same as the universal on Felders site, I emailed the company but never got a response. Maybe the SDS will reveal the differences... Regards, Mark On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote:
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Re: Airlines for new shop
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt doesn¡¯t look like anyone has mentioned black pipe. I worked in a production about 20 years ago and seem to remember they used black pipe for the air lines, which would be cheaper than copper and easier to reconfigure and wouldn¡¯t require solder. What am I missing?Thanks, Gerald On Jan 27, 2020, at 7:21 PM, "david@..." <david@...> wrote:
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes , this just came out when my saw was delivered in Oct it was recommended to not blow air hard on the rails and just a dry wipe, red scotchbrite if needed. Wonder if it helps with conductivity of the lv rails on the sliders with the on/off on the slide and they just made it a standard recommendation for allRegards, Mark On Jan 29, 2020, at 10:47 AM, jmkserv@... wrote:
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Randy Child via Groups.Io" <strongman_one@...> Date: 2020-01-29 10:41 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Lubricant for sliding table Ok..upon close examination, it appears that the track is dovetailed in..
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 07:24:43 AM PST, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Slider track cleaning is on my list of things on the new for me (used) K975. I have some time on my hand while in Pakistan and stumbled on a video on utube on slider maintenance. The interesting thing I learned is that the steel guides in some cases are glued therefore one needs to be careful about what to use and how to apply. So spray the cleaner on cloth and then apply to the guide. Likely not applicable to Felder but can anyone let me know how Felder and Hammer guides are secured? Imran On Jan 29, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? I wonder if the?Ballistol multipurpose available on amazon is the same as the universal on Felders site, I emailed the company but never got a response. Maybe the SDS will reveal the differences... Regards, Mark On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote:
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThis is new for Felder to actually recommend a slider lube/cleaner. For years it was always clean with a dry clean cloth. Anything with Felder sliders was always no oils. Can't speak for other manufacturers but they have all guide issues over the years.? John JMK Services -------- Original message -------- From: "Randy Child via Groups.Io" <strongman_one@...> Date: 2020-01-29 10:35 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Lubricant for sliding table I'll check mine Imran and let you know
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 07:24:43 AM PST, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Slider track cleaning is on my list of things on the new for me (used) K975. I have some time on my hand while in Pakistan and stumbled on a video on utube on slider maintenance. The interesting thing I learned is that the steel guides in some cases are glued therefore one needs to be careful about what to use and how to apply. So spray the cleaner on cloth and then apply to the guide. Likely not applicable to Felder but can anyone let me know how Felder and Hammer guides are secured? Imran On Jan 29, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? I wonder if the?Ballistol multipurpose available on amazon is the same as the universal on Felders site, I emailed the company but never got a response. Maybe the SDS will reveal the differences... Regards, Mark On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote:
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
Ok..upon close examination, it appears that the track is dovetailed in..
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 07:24:43 AM PST, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Slider track cleaning is on my list of things on the new for me (used) K975. I have some time on my hand while in Pakistan and stumbled on a video on utube on slider maintenance. The interesting thing I learned is that the steel guides in some cases are glued therefore one needs to be careful about what to use and how to apply. So spray the cleaner on cloth and then apply to the guide. Likely not applicable to Felder but can anyone let me know how Felder and Hammer guides are secured? Imran On Jan 29, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? I wonder if the?Ballistol multipurpose available on amazon is the same as the universal on Felders site, I emailed the company but never got a response. Maybe the SDS will reveal the differences... Regards, Mark On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote:
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
I'll check mine Imran and let you know
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 07:24:43 AM PST, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Slider track cleaning is on my list of things on the new for me (used) K975. I have some time on my hand while in Pakistan and stumbled on a video on utube on slider maintenance. The interesting thing I learned is that the steel guides in some cases are glued therefore one needs to be careful about what to use and how to apply. So spray the cleaner on cloth and then apply to the guide. Likely not applicable to Felder but can anyone let me know how Felder and Hammer guides are secured? Imran On Jan 29, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? I wonder if the?Ballistol multipurpose available on amazon is the same as the universal on Felders site, I emailed the company but never got a response. Maybe the SDS will reveal the differences... Regards, Mark On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote:
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSlider track cleaning is on my list of things on the new for me (used) K975. I have some time on my hand while in Pakistan and stumbled on a video on utube on slider maintenance. The interesting thing I learned is that the steel guides in some cases are glued therefore one needs to be careful about what to use and how to apply. So spray the cleaner on cloth and then apply to the guide. Likely not applicable to Felder but can anyone let me know how Felder and Hammer guides are secured? Imran On Jan 29, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ?I wonder if the?Ballistol multipurpose available on amazon is the same as the universal on Felders site, I emailed the company but never got a response. Maybe the SDS will reveal the differences... Regards, Mark On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote:
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhat is the difference between WD40 and Ballistol? ?They both appear to be around 60% Aliphatic Hydrocarbon with some additives. Joe in New Orleans
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Re: Butt Bar
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý? Mark K sent this. ??And this is for Mark K.? ? ? ? Jon S (503) 995-0900 ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Randy Child via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 7:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Butt Bar ? Hahaha..I'm still not sure what a butt bar is, so I guessed.. I think my guess is right, or at least close to being right.. a picture would tell me.. ? On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 06:57:01 AM PST, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote: ? ? Newby alert. ? I have read all through this thread and still don't know what a butt bar is. At first I thought it was for cow tipping.? Now I'm not sure.? ?Can someone put up a picture. ? Jon S ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Christensen ? Would any one have a butt bar that they don't use and want to sell, I was going to just order it from Felder, but thought I would check here first. ?
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On Jan 29, 2020, at 7:04 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
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Re: Butt Bar
Hahaha..I'm still not sure what a butt bar is, so I guessed.. I think my guess is right, or at least close to being right.. a picture would tell me..
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 06:57:01 AM PST, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:
Newby alert. ? I have read all through this thread and still don't know what a butt bar is. At first I thought it was for cow tipping.? Now I'm not sure.? ?Can someone put up a picture. ? Jon S ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FOG] Butt Bar ? Would any one have a butt bar that they don't use and want to sell, I was going to just order it from Felder, but thought I would check here first. ?
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI wonder if the?Ballistol multipurpose available on amazon is the same as the universal on Felders site, I emailed the company but never got a response. Maybe the SDS will reveal the differences...Regards, Mark On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote:
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Re: Butt Bar
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Re: Butt Bar
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNewby alert. ? I have read all through this thread and still don't know what a butt bar is. At first I thought it was for cow tipping.? Now I'm not sure.? ?Can someone put up a picture. ? Jon S ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FOG] Butt Bar ? Would any one have a butt bar that they don't use and want to sell, I was going to just order it from Felder, but thought I would check here first. ?
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
Felder recently published a TSB recommending Ballistol
as a slider lube.? This was discussed on Sawmill Creek. My slider is in an un heated workshop in NE Ohio. When I use it removes some light rust from the steel rails.? I would not use any abrasives on the rails unless absolutely necessary.? You want to keep the polished surface and not scuff it up.. Felder does have Ballistol available on there web site.? -- Jerry P |
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
I'll give that a try too.. thanks Bill..
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 06:14:29 AM PST, Bill B¨¦langer <bllblngr@...> wrote:
Randy, Just a heads up. I struggled with my K915 as it would start to feel a bit ¡°lumpy¡± and it was the rectangular outrigger bar that needed cleaning not the table.? The rollers in there seem to attract sawdust. Just unhook the outrigger and see if it makes a difference for you.... Bill Belanger? On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 06:40 Randy Child via Groups.Io <strongman_one=[email protected]> wrote: When I was at the Felder office and checking out all the machines, I noticed how smooth the sliding table was on their showroom Kappa 400.? I just glided with zero effort and zero sound ( I'm hearing impaired, so I can't hear it it made a sound or not..haha) |
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Re: Lubricant for sliding table
I was concerned about using any form of lubricant and voiced this concern to Greg, who is their head tech and he assured me that the ballistol spray was the only spray that was Felder approved for this application..so I figured I cant go wrong..
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 06:09:38 AM PST, jmkserv@... <jmkserv@...> wrote:
You will find cleaning the outrigger slide on all 4 sides will help with the smoothness, just don't use any type of lube that dust will stick to. I do this monthly. If you try using an abrasive make sure you get rid of the grit unless you want to really change your bearings. On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:40 AM Randy Child via Groups.Io <strongman_one=[email protected]> wrote: When I was at the Felder office and checking out all the machines, I noticed how smooth the sliding table was on their showroom Kappa 400.? I just glided with zero effort and zero sound ( I'm hearing impaired, so I can't hear it it made a sound or not..haha) --
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