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So I'm working on finalizing my order for a KF700 S Pro with a 10 foot slider and the 1500mm outrigger.? I've gotten some excellent advice from David Best.? David noted that in his experience the precision miter attachment is fussy to use and not worth the hassle.? I'm curious whether anyone else has an opinion.? Does anyone who has one like theirs??? Why?? Why not?

David also noted that on his KF700 (back in the day before he upgraded) that the mechanical scoring system required the main blade to be fully elevated to use it.? Is this still the case?? Is it different on the electric scoring unit?? I've asked my the rep at Felder, but she doesn't seem to really know the equipment.

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I just posted a file describing a new device which controls a dust collector and blast gate when machine is turned on/off. ?

This past spring I purchased a Felder KF700S sliding table saw and shaper combo. ?I also installed Nordfab ducting to the machine which included an automatic blast gate at ceiling height.? My dust collector is an Oneida Smart Pro 5HP unit with an RF remote.? In my small one person shop, the dust collector does not run continuously – only when machines are producing chips.

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I wanted the dust collector to turn on automatically whenever I turned on the saw.? The blast gate must open at the same time.? When I turned the saw off, the collector would run for a programmable number of seconds before turning off and then closing the blast gate.? I wanted the dust collector to turn on via RF as I did not want to run wiring or disable my current RF remotes.

Check out the unit in operation at??

Dan Schmidt

Jay,

Thank you-I'll look into that. ?Would Hammer have an alternative fence?

Dan

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On Dec 3, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Brian Lamb blamb11@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:

Or is Dan selling them? Nice job and way above my pay grade when it comes to electronics. My only question is the way I see it this only works on one machine and a specific function? I would like a unit that I could wire the shop into that say I turn on the saw, it opens port A and B (Suction on the above table shroud and the saw itself). Then if I run the shaper it’s a different motor and different blast gates.?

There are also two operations and two sets of blast gates depending upon if I’m jointing or planing….

Any way of having multiple gates and multiple functions? Even if it means I have hard wired multiple torroid sensors and blast gates??

I had to build a remote heavy duty relay earlier this year for my dust collector, the X10 stuff I was using, the 30 amp relay went kaput and they don’t make them any more, at least that would work with all my old X10 remotes and such. So I picked up a 220V magnetic relay with a 110V coil and now have a relay that is remote controlled that will work up to 40 amps, or more if I had gotten a larger relay.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...

Hello all. ?Just bought a C3-41 (1999) and really like everything but the fence . ?The tightening screw is immovable. ?I would like to fix/replace mine and would appreciate hearing what my options would be. ?I searched and saw the unifence option. ?Are there others? ?

Thank you so much. ?I need some help.

Dan

Thank you?

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George,

If I could only have one blade it would be a rip blade !

When I make a bespoke kitchen I would generally use the rip blade in the saw in conjunction with a scoring blade for the complete project, ?I use a felder silent power blade. IMHO is perfect for cross cutting, cutting up plywood.

?Im over in Spain where we dont have much choice in plywoods,I genaraly use a marine ply which when cut with universal blades or fine tooth blades burns the ply very quickly. Ive even cut up melamine faced boards using a rip blade blade in conjunction with a scoreing blade with good results.

Ive no experiance with Leitz blades so cant coment, I did try talking to Leitz Spain but they there not intrested in my buisness, I run a one man shop generally making bespoke furniture so I guess they could not be bothed with me.

I have a few CMT blades, there prices are good over here,and there service, there quality is not as good as Felder IMHO.

I Agree with what others have said, you saw should be complete with blades, Would we buy a car without wheels?

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On 2 December 2016 at 21:43, 'david@bestservices IMAP 2' david@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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I have a few Leitz rip blades and love them. ? However, I have standardized on Tenryu blades for use with the scoring saw. ? Specifically, I use the Tenryu?IW-350100AB3 which is 350mm, and too large for a K700, so you’d want the 300mm variant - IW300100AB3. ? I have about 5 identical Tenryu blades and just rotate them out for sharpening as required. ? Standardizing on a single blade type means you don’t have to change the scoring saw blade cut width when you swap out blades. ? I recently bought a new scoring blade from Freud Industrial and returned it because it was garbage. ? I recommend you buy your scoring saw blade from Felder.

Having said all that, I use Leitz exclusively for sharpening all my blades.? They have been the most consistent and convenient and will sharpen any brand of blade.? I had Leitz re-grind two of the mentioned Tenryu blades to flat-top instead of alternating-top-bevel so they cut a flat bottomed kerf for joinery applications. ? In my area (Portland Oregon) Leitz has a roving rep who comes down from Seattle every week and will come to my shop to pick up and deliver blades being sharpened at no extra cost. ? ?Even if I had to ship them UPS to Leitz for sharpening, I would do so to get their service.

David Best

On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:45 AM, George george954679@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hello all, I have a new K700S due to arrive next week to my shop. I need to get some blades for it. I got a recommendation to check into Leitz blades from a guy who has a lifetime of experience and who's opinion I trust. Reasonable initial cost, good performance and Leitz 's reputation for being able to consistently re sharpen their blades to a high standard all appeals to me. It seems like a good value. I plan on building kitchen cabinets. (Plywood boxes, hardwood face frames and doors drawer fronts, etc.) I guess I'll need a main blade and a scoring blade to handle hardwood veneered plywoods, probably a combination blade, a crosscut blade?,a rip blade?,and any other suggestions anyone may have. (The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.) The saw has a 7.5 hp,5.5kw,3ph main motor. 4800 rpm. 30 mm arbor with lugs. Blade can be 250mm-315mm in diameter. The electronic scoring unit has 20mm arbor and the manual says the blade can be 100 mm maximum in diameter* (*when used with a 300 mm main blade) I don't understand what difference the size of the main blade makes since they are adjusted independently of each other, but that is what the manual says. I called Leitz. The sales guy was friendly, but I knew I was in trouble when he said he had never heard of Felder. He said he'd only been there 6 months and was still learning. Their websites does show blades for a number of different saw manufacturers and Felder is not one of them. He was not able to locate a small enough scoring blade for the K700S and seemed pretty unsure of himself on everything else. Do any of you guys use Leitz blades on your Felder equipment? If so do you have any specific recommendations? I am open to other blade manufacturers too, not just Leitz. The great re sharpening reputation Leitz has is very appealing though. Thanks everyone, I appreciate this website a great deal. George Gerstner, Ostrander,Ohio

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Jonathan Samways

Dan,

? I echo Joe's comment excellent writeup.? Making one of these is outside my comfort zone but well within my son's zone as he's a EE major at Louisiana Tech.? What would you say the cost is to build one of these?

Thanks,

Dave

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Bellsouth?dohertyj@...?[felder-woodworking]?<felder-woodworking@...>?wrote:

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Dan,

This is a great write up!? Thanks for sharing.

John Ferandin and I have been talking about a similar system for awhile but using a PLC rather than an Arduino.

I really like your pigtail device for testing current.? I have most of my shop set up with 30 amp three phase plugs and it would be easy to make a pigtail for testing current most of my machines.

Joe in New Orleans

On Dec 3, 2016, at 8:31 AM,?dschmid4@...?[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I just posted a file describing a new device which controls a dust collector and blast gate when machine is turned on/off. ?

This past spring I purchased a Felder KF700S sliding table saw and shaper combo.? I also installed Nordfab ducting to the machine which included an automatic blast gate at ceiling height.? My dust collector is an Oneida Smart Pro 5HP unit with an RF remote.? In my small one person shop, the dust collector does not run continuously – only when machines are producing chips.

?

I wanted the dust collector to turn on automatically whenever I turned on the saw.? The blast gate must open at the same time.? When I turned the saw off, the collector would run for a programmable number of seconds before turning off and then closing the blast gate.? I wanted the dust collector to turn on via RF as I did not want to run wiring or disable my current RF remotes.

Check out the unit in operation at??

Dan Schmidt

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For those who don't wish to learn the skill of hand planing Consider
building a Router Bridge.
It is a scalable piece of shop built gear that can take a variety of forms

A nice thing about a router bridge is that you can secure the wood from
below or the sides with screws, glue, tape, or vacuum.

I've considered a slab table in the past and wondered about wood
movement over time.

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Dan,

This is a great write up!? Thanks for sharing.

John Ferandin and I have been talking about a similar system for awhile but using a PLC rather than an Arduino.

I really like your pigtail device for testing current.? I have most of my shop set up with 30 amp three phase plugs and it would be easy to make a pigtail for testing current most of my machines.

Joe in New Orleans

On Dec 3, 2016, at 8:31 AM, dschmid4@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I just posted a file describing a new device which controls a dust collector and blast gate when machine is turned on/off. ?

This past spring I purchased a Felder KF700S sliding table saw and shaper combo.? I also installed Nordfab ducting to the machine which included an automatic blast gate at ceiling height.? My dust collector is an Oneida Smart Pro 5HP unit with an RF remote.? In my small one person shop, the dust collector does not run continuously – only when machines are producing chips.

?

I wanted the dust collector to turn on automatically whenever I turned on the saw.? The blast gate must open at the same time.? When I turned the saw off, the collector would run for a programmable number of seconds before turning off and then closing the blast gate.? I wanted the dust collector to turn on via RF as I did not want to run wiring or disable my current RF remotes.

Check out the unit in operation at??

Dan Schmidt

On Nov 29, 2016, at 5:24 PM, GLEN chris3645@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:

I am a new joiner to the group and would like to introduce myself.
My name is Glen and I am purchasing some Felder tools. I am Glad to find this group to get in touch and learn more.
I grew up in wood, my dad was a cabinet builder , boat builder or just anything anyone would bring him he could build
Ten years ago I got out of wood and got in the grocery business. It was the best and worse thing I ever did. The best thing was i made money , the bad was 100 hour work weeks and missing sawdust. In those ten years i put some money away every month so i could get my workshop back when i retired. I am retiring in 32 days and about 10 hours. Ha. So as i try and figure out what I am buying,how to plan shop layout, dust collection, what im going to make to sell if anything and why im even really doing this, I am looking for knowledge from other people. I have nothing but questions and this is a one time thing for me that I have to get right. My girl friend was ok with it ( "It will give you something to do and keep you busy") until I told her how much i was going to spend.?
Sorry to drag on but i am excited to join this group and other related groups to learn how you all do. it.

Thanks Glen
Question one, who has had any bad experiences with Felder?

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To:?phil_moger@...?[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 10:16 am
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Re: See the new dust collector?

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I read another post?.

The machine sold in states comes with 5 micron filter, 1 micron is an option you can upgrade. I believe the machine sold in Europe will have 1 micron filter.

James

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:16 PM, James Zhu?<james.zhu2@...>?wrote:

I think it is a typo.?

If it was 5 micron, I do not think the owner of bridge city would buy it because he is allergic to wood dust as mentioned in the following review of his new dust collector.

James

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM,?andy.giddings@...?[felder-woodworking]?<felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com>?wrote:

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As the filter appears to be 5 micron, seems more like a large dust distributor than a collector :-) Hope that's a misprint