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Dust Collector on ebay

Leo Lopez
 

Since some of you guys have been talking about buying a
cyclone collector recently (Oneida, etc.), you might want to check
out
ebay item No. 316951234 (Industrial Dust Collector). Its Grainger's
(Dayton) 3HP, 3PH two stage cyclone in almost new condition. This is
a really nice unit that would be even better retrofitted with
Oneida's
after filters. Grainger sells it for about $1,500. The current bid
price on ebay is $560. Last year I nailed a Torit cyclone on ebay
and
retrofitted it with Oneida's after filters. I couldn't be more
satisfied. Bidding closes Monday afternoon. Leo
New poll for felder-woodworking

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Enter your vote today! Check out the new poll for the felder-woodworking
group:


What type of dust collection are you
using?

o Felder AF22
o Felder AF22 LN (low noise)
o Felder Other (AF10)
o Cyclone System (Oneida, etc)
o Taiwanese dual bag /impleller(Penn State, Hercules, etc)
o Shop Vac
o None, I like the taste of sawdust


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Thanks!
Re: 1 phase options

Wolfgang Geiger
 

Rick:

I finally got an answer back from our R&D department regarding the variable
frequency drive (VFD). I'll like to comment again to your questions:

1. The industrial scoring unit is not possible with the single phase VFD.
The inverter is designed for 4 HP. The industrial scoring unit would add 1
HP and the inverter would be too small. For single phase we still have the
belt driven scoring unit available. Larger inverters are available but will
not be supplied by FELDER because they cannot be fitted inside the
electrical compartment and need to be mounted on the outside of the machine
or at another location.

2. The VFD is rated for constant Power output (HP) that means of course that
the torque changes when changing the speed. The formula Power = torque x
speed explains the relation between torque and speed. When the speed
increases the torque is decreased and vice versa.
VFDs are also available with variable torque rating (but not supplied by
FELDER). These VFD's measure the required torque on the motor shaft. The
variable on these VFD's is the motor speed (torque = power / speed). When
the torque is increased the speed decreases.

I hope I could answer your questions if you want more detailed information
please give me a call at 800-572-0061 and we can discuss this in more
detail.

Wolfgang

----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Strom <rstrom@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:54 AM
Subject: RE: [felder-woodworking] 1 phase options


Wolfgang:

When a VFD, is installed on a machine, and an industrial duty scoring
motor
is also selected, how does Felder handle the speed of the scoring unit?
Will there be two drives, one for the saw, the other for the scoring unit?

Has, or will, Felder offer application notes for the customers who choose
to
go with the drive option? It has been my experience in applying drives to
industrial applications, both large and small hp motors, that the drive
itself can create some significant problems if not installed properly.
Specifically, if the drive is going to be mounted in the machine, little
or
no effect will be noticed on the motor. However, should a customer choose
to retrofit an existing machine, mount the drive on the wall and use that
for his main 3 phase power source, the distance between the drive and the
motor become critical.

Like many users, I am going to opt for the drive option. I intend to
mount
the drive on the wall close to the single phase power source, and then use
twist lock receptacles to move the power from one machine to the next. In
my application I will install a line reactor between the motor and the
drive. Line reactors remove the harmonics created by the drive.
Harmonics
if not removed, will shorten the life of the motor, cause early bearing
failure, or both.

A couple of years ago one of my engineers wrote a technical paper on the
application of drives on small hp motors. I will edit this article and
post
it to this site with the specific points to consider.

With this memo you posted several speeds that could be obtained with the
application of a drive. Has Felder ran any calculations on what will
happen
to the torque? As you know, as you increase speed torque follows up to
base
speed, if you accelerate the motor beyond base speed, 60hz, torque falls
off
significantly. Are the drives being supplied by Felder, rated for
constant
horsepower, or constant torque?

Rick Strom
Virginia Operation


-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfgang Geiger [mailto:wolfgang@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 6:27 PM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] 1 phase options


FELDER offers now also another option for woodworkers with single phase
supply. All 700 Series machines (except ECO models) will be equipped with
an
Inverter. The inverter converts 1 phase power into 3 phase power and the
machine runs regular 4 HP 3 phase motors. This new option is also
available
at an incredible low cost of $300.00. For another $165.00 per motor
($495.00
for a full combination machine) we can also equip these machines with a
variable speed control. This will provide a speed range of
2,500 - 6,000 rpm for the jointer/planer
3,000 - 6,000 rpm for the saw
1,400 - 4,700 rpm for the shaper at medium speed
2,500 - 8,300 rpm for the shaper at high speed
3,000 - 10,000 rpm for the shaper at slow speed
6,000 - 20,000 rpm for the high speed router spindle.

Wolfgang



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Re: Felder sawblades...any comments?

John Renzetti
 

My experience with having Forrest rebore and then resharpen the blades has
been excellent. They did 4 blades for me. I think Felder USA is
recommending them also.
Take care,
John Renzetti

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Tamarkin <tamarkin@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Felder sawblades...any comments?


Jason! I'm running the 315mm "silent power" blade, I think 96 teeth or
so, and it does
a pretty good job; a 48-tooth 300 mm ATB standard Felder leaves an average
cut. My
blade "pick of the litter" is a 72 tooth /ATB Tenryu 300mm that comes
stock with a 30mm
bore (listed in their catalog as being made for Altendorf applications -
what are we,
chopped liver???) - leaves a perfect cut on veneers, more-than-acceptable
on melamine
underside. Haven't needed to set up my scorer! I've also had great luck
in the past
with FS blades - they make a 30-degree ATB tooth that is great for cutting
melamine and
other panel stock, and have an extra-durable carbide for production
machinery. Believe
they stock 30mm bores as well. I source FS through Ballew Saw and Tool,
800-CUT RITE,
good support, factory drop ships, etc.

My rebore experience has been poor - I've been told that it's critical to
rebore before
sharpening, as the new bore is never truly concentric with the periphery
of the teeth
otherwise. One of my blades came back from the machinist with a noticable
out-of-true
that's well beyond correction by resharpening, probably 1/8" or so!

Good luck with whatever you end up with! -Philip

John Renzetti wrote:

Hi Jason, I believe the Felder blades are made by both Stehle and
Leitz
of Germany, very high quality industrial blades just like your Forrest
and
Ghudo.
First of all you are probably getting a blade, the 48T 300 or 315mm
universal blade with your saw.
Forrest can rebore your present Forrest and Ghudo blades for the
30mm
arbor and 9mm pin holes. I think I was charged $11 for the rebore and
$7.50
for the pinholes. I think I uploading the boring diagram from Felder in
the
files section. For cutting two sided veneers get the 80T 250mm blade
number
03.0.008 . The other blade you mentioned the 48T 250mm laminate blade
has
a concave and convex tooth design that according to I think was Link or
Phil, is very difficult to sharpen.
Did you ever get that electrical problem straightened out. If there
was
3phase coming into your place, the power company can't just change
things
because they feel like it.
Take care,
John Renzetti
Chadds Ford, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Gant <rjasong@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 5:17 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Felder sawblades...any comments?

Hi everyone,

Can anyone comment on Felder's sawblades in general? In particular,
I'm
looking at the following blades:

2 - TCT Universal Sawblades- one 300mm 48T for general cutting of
hardwoods
and such. One 250mm 40T for use with the TCT Adjustable Scoring
blade(100mm
20T). How will this work on Western Panolam melamine?

Prices seem real fair. How will these blades compare to my Forrest and
Ghudo
blades? And how about sharpening service, does Felder do the
sharpening?
If
so, how's the pricing and turn around?

thanks as always, Jason G



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Re: Sacramento Visit

 

Steve,

The CF731 shots you posted that Scott sent you look great. No sense
in re-inventing the wheel. I added three detail shots: Planer
Controls, Planer Cutter Head, Planer outfeed view.

Brad Ellison


--- In felder-woodworking@..., Steve Kusterer <spkerer@m...>
wrote:
At 07:56 PM 4/29/00 -0700, you wrote:
If you could please post some of the new photos - you can put them
into the
new machines folder - I am sure that the members here would be
interested.

Thanks - Scott
While I haven't had the pleasure of visiting Sacramento, I did
receive
several jpgs of the CF 731 Pro via email from Scott. The CF 731
Pro is my
future machine. I've taken the liberty of posting them to the "New
Machines" files section on the site. I also took liberty in
calling one
view the "front" and another view the "rear" - I'm not sure what's
really
considered the front - but you'll get the idea.

All the files start with CF731_ and vary from 68K to 73K. I also
have a
pdf of the CF731, but I hesitate to upload it because it is 618K.

Steve
Re: Sacramento Visit

Steve Kusterer
 

At 07:56 PM 4/29/00 -0700, you wrote:
If you could please post some of the new photos - you can put them into the
new machines folder - I am sure that the members here would be interested.

Thanks - Scott
While I haven't had the pleasure of visiting Sacramento, I did receive
several jpgs of the CF 731 Pro via email from Scott. The CF 731 Pro is my
future machine. I've taken the liberty of posting them to the "New
Machines" files section on the site. I also took liberty in calling one
view the "front" and another view the "rear" - I'm not sure what's really
considered the front - but you'll get the idea.

All the files start with CF731_ and vary from 68K to 73K. I also have a
pdf of the CF731, but I hesitate to upload it because it is 618K.

Steve
Re: Sacramento Visit

 

Hi John,

Money goes too quickly in Vegas. I look at this way. As long as the
Municipal bus line stops within three miles of my house, and I can
make the mortgage payment, I'll be OK. Maybe after the KF arrives I
can have the electricity turned on too! In the mean time, its what
we call delayed gratification, or a good excuse to clean the garage.
Hope your wife and little one are doing fine.

Cordially,
Brad Ellison


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "John Renzetti"
<j.renzetti@w...> wrote:
Hi Brad, Sounds like a good trip, but Vegas might have been
cheaper. I
don't understand why your wife would have wanted a new house first.
Just post the pictures directly especially if you've got a
couple with
you and the Felder crew in them.
Take care,
John Renzetti
----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Ellison <ellcap1@g...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 7:41 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Sacramento Visit


Hello Everyone,

Just thought I'd report on last week's trip to Sacramento to
see the Felder gang. The new machines are Outstanding! For
those of you who don't know my story, I had planned on
purchasing a BF6-31 over a year ago. This was postponed due
to a home purchase last year. (I guess my darling wife
didn't think too much of the bachelor pad.)

With the new machines available, I had to see what they were
like. The whole gang was really helpful in going over all of
the machines. Wolfgang, John, Pete, Scott, and, Tom played
tag-team showing me all of their neat new stuff. I was
impressed by some of the highlights such as:

Sturdy new KF rip fence (Rail is a large-diameter solid
steel bar)
CNC press brake formed chassis on all of the new
machines
AD 731 12" Jointer Planer (what is on the new CF-731)
Added reinforcements to the Saw and Shaper
Use of Frequency Inverter Drives for the single phase
options

From a manufacturing background, it is clear that Felder
listens to its customers and is committed to continual
product development. This is very evident in the number of
model changes over the last decade. The new features and
pricing made it well worth my while. This is especially
true after comparing Felder to the Knapp machine at the
January American Woodworker show.

I ordered the KF 700 S Pro Saw/Shaper combination with the
8' table and 7.5hp three phase motors. The AD-731
Jointer/Planer will be later. With the delivery time out
there, it will give me some time to sell off machinery and
clear some space. I think running a little 8 gauge wire
might be in order too! The saw is 7.5hp, the feeder (F-34)
is 1hp, the scoring unit is 1hp. This is a little more
amperage than my old 3hp Unisaw.

One thing I did appreciate is the approach of the Felder
sales team. Never, was I pressured, coerced, nor did I hear
any "closing" techniques used during this purchase. That
was a breath of fresh air compared with the sales tactics
I've seen used by other companies.

That's all I have to report for now. I did take a digital
camera with me on the trip. If anyone would like some shots
of the CF-731, let me know. I'd be glad to email them, or
post them to the site.

Cordially,
Brad Ellison





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Re: Felder sawblades...any comments?

Philip Tamarkin
 

Jason! I'm running the 315mm "silent power" blade, I think 96 teeth or so, and it does
a pretty good job; a 48-tooth 300 mm ATB standard Felder leaves an average cut. My
blade "pick of the litter" is a 72 tooth /ATB Tenryu 300mm that comes stock with a 30mm
bore (listed in their catalog as being made for Altendorf applications - what are we,
chopped liver???) - leaves a perfect cut on veneers, more-than-acceptable on melamine
underside. Haven't needed to set up my scorer! I've also had great luck in the past
with FS blades - they make a 30-degree ATB tooth that is great for cutting melamine and
other panel stock, and have an extra-durable carbide for production machinery. Believe
they stock 30mm bores as well. I source FS through Ballew Saw and Tool, 800-CUT RITE,
good support, factory drop ships, etc.

My rebore experience has been poor - I've been told that it's critical to rebore before
sharpening, as the new bore is never truly concentric with the periphery of the teeth
otherwise. One of my blades came back from the machinist with a noticable out-of-true
that's well beyond correction by resharpening, probably 1/8" or so!

Good luck with whatever you end up with! -Philip

John Renzetti wrote:

Hi Jason, I believe the Felder blades are made by both Stehle and Leitz
of Germany, very high quality industrial blades just like your Forrest and
Ghudo.
First of all you are probably getting a blade, the 48T 300 or 315mm
universal blade with your saw.
Forrest can rebore your present Forrest and Ghudo blades for the 30mm
arbor and 9mm pin holes. I think I was charged $11 for the rebore and $7.50
for the pinholes. I think I uploading the boring diagram from Felder in the
files section. For cutting two sided veneers get the 80T 250mm blade number
03.0.008 . The other blade you mentioned the 48T 250mm laminate blade has
a concave and convex tooth design that according to I think was Link or
Phil, is very difficult to sharpen.
Did you ever get that electrical problem straightened out. If there was
3phase coming into your place, the power company can't just change things
because they feel like it.
Take care,
John Renzetti
Chadds Ford, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Gant <rjasong@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 5:17 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Felder sawblades...any comments?

Hi everyone,

Can anyone comment on Felder's sawblades in general? In particular, I'm
looking at the following blades:

2 - TCT Universal Sawblades- one 300mm 48T for general cutting of
hardwoods
and such. One 250mm 40T for use with the TCT Adjustable Scoring
blade(100mm
20T). How will this work on Western Panolam melamine?

Prices seem real fair. How will these blades compare to my Forrest and
Ghudo
blades? And how about sharpening service, does Felder do the sharpening?
If
so, how's the pricing and turn around?

thanks as always, Jason G



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Re: Sacramento Visit

Scott Slater
 

If you could please post some of the new photos - you can put them into the
new machines folder - I am sure that the members here would be interested.

Thanks - Scott


on 4/29/00 4:41 PM, Brad Ellison at ellcap1@... wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Just thought I'd report on last week's trip to Sacramento to
see the Felder gang. The new machines are Outstanding! For
those of you who don't know my story, I had planned on
purchasing a BF6-31 over a year ago. This was postponed due
to a home purchase last year. (I guess my darling wife
didn't think too much of the bachelor pad.)

With the new machines available, I had to see what they were
like. The whole gang was really helpful in going over all of
the machines. Wolfgang, John, Pete, Scott, and, Tom played
tag-team showing me all of their neat new stuff. I was
impressed by some of the highlights such as:

Sturdy new KF rip fence (Rail is a large-diameter solid
steel bar)
CNC press brake formed chassis on all of the new
machines
AD 731 12" Jointer Planer (what is on the new CF-731)
Added reinforcements to the Saw and Shaper
Use of Frequency Inverter Drives for the single phase
options

From a manufacturing background, it is clear that Felder
listens to its customers and is committed to continual
product development. This is very evident in the number of
model changes over the last decade. The new features and
pricing made it well worth my while. This is especially
true after comparing Felder to the Knapp machine at the
January American Woodworker show.

I ordered the KF 700 S Pro Saw/Shaper combination with the
8' table and 7.5hp three phase motors. The AD-731
Jointer/Planer will be later. With the delivery time out
there, it will give me some time to sell off machinery and
clear some space. I think running a little 8 gauge wire
might be in order too! The saw is 7.5hp, the feeder (F-34)
is 1hp, the scoring unit is 1hp. This is a little more
amperage than my old 3hp Unisaw.

One thing I did appreciate is the approach of the Felder
sales team. Never, was I pressured, coerced, nor did I hear
any "closing" techniques used during this purchase. That
was a breath of fresh air compared with the sales tactics
I've seen used by other companies.

That's all I have to report for now. I did take a digital
camera with me on the trip. If anyone would like some shots
of the CF-731, let me know. I'd be glad to email them, or
post them to the site.

Cordially,
Brad Ellison





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Re: Sacramento Visit

John Renzetti
 

Hi Brad, Sounds like a good trip, but Vegas might have been cheaper. I
don't understand why your wife would have wanted a new house first.
Just post the pictures directly especially if you've got a couple with
you and the Felder crew in them.
Take care,
John Renzetti

----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Ellison <ellcap1@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 7:41 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Sacramento Visit


Hello Everyone,

Just thought I'd report on last week's trip to Sacramento to
see the Felder gang. The new machines are Outstanding! For
those of you who don't know my story, I had planned on
purchasing a BF6-31 over a year ago. This was postponed due
to a home purchase last year. (I guess my darling wife
didn't think too much of the bachelor pad.)

With the new machines available, I had to see what they were
like. The whole gang was really helpful in going over all of
the machines. Wolfgang, John, Pete, Scott, and, Tom played
tag-team showing me all of their neat new stuff. I was
impressed by some of the highlights such as:

Sturdy new KF rip fence (Rail is a large-diameter solid
steel bar)
CNC press brake formed chassis on all of the new
machines
AD 731 12" Jointer Planer (what is on the new CF-731)
Added reinforcements to the Saw and Shaper
Use of Frequency Inverter Drives for the single phase
options

From a manufacturing background, it is clear that Felder
listens to its customers and is committed to continual
product development. This is very evident in the number of
model changes over the last decade. The new features and
pricing made it well worth my while. This is especially
true after comparing Felder to the Knapp machine at the
January American Woodworker show.

I ordered the KF 700 S Pro Saw/Shaper combination with the
8' table and 7.5hp three phase motors. The AD-731
Jointer/Planer will be later. With the delivery time out
there, it will give me some time to sell off machinery and
clear some space. I think running a little 8 gauge wire
might be in order too! The saw is 7.5hp, the feeder (F-34)
is 1hp, the scoring unit is 1hp. This is a little more
amperage than my old 3hp Unisaw.

One thing I did appreciate is the approach of the Felder
sales team. Never, was I pressured, coerced, nor did I hear
any "closing" techniques used during this purchase. That
was a breath of fresh air compared with the sales tactics
I've seen used by other companies.

That's all I have to report for now. I did take a digital
camera with me on the trip. If anyone would like some shots
of the CF-731, let me know. I'd be glad to email them, or
post them to the site.

Cordially,
Brad Ellison





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Re: Felder sawblades...any comments?

John Renzetti
 

Hi Jason, I believe the Felder blades are made by both Stehle and Leitz
of Germany, very high quality industrial blades just like your Forrest and
Ghudo.
First of all you are probably getting a blade, the 48T 300 or 315mm
universal blade with your saw.
Forrest can rebore your present Forrest and Ghudo blades for the 30mm
arbor and 9mm pin holes. I think I was charged $11 for the rebore and $7.50
for the pinholes. I think I uploading the boring diagram from Felder in the
files section. For cutting two sided veneers get the 80T 250mm blade number
03.0.008 . The other blade you mentioned the 48T 250mm laminate blade has
a concave and convex tooth design that according to I think was Link or
Phil, is very difficult to sharpen.
Did you ever get that electrical problem straightened out. If there was
3phase coming into your place, the power company can't just change things
because they feel like it.
Take care,
John Renzetti
Chadds Ford, PA

----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Gant <rjasong@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 5:17 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Felder sawblades...any comments?


Hi everyone,

Can anyone comment on Felder's sawblades in general? In particular, I'm
looking at the following blades:

2 - TCT Universal Sawblades- one 300mm 48T for general cutting of
hardwoods
and such. One 250mm 40T for use with the TCT Adjustable Scoring
blade(100mm
20T). How will this work on Western Panolam melamine?

Prices seem real fair. How will these blades compare to my Forrest and
Ghudo
blades? And how about sharpening service, does Felder do the sharpening?
If
so, how's the pricing and turn around?

thanks as always, Jason G



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Sacramento Visit

 

Hello Everyone,

Just thought I'd report on last week's trip to Sacramento to
see the Felder gang. The new machines are Outstanding! For
those of you who don't know my story, I had planned on
purchasing a BF6-31 over a year ago. This was postponed due
to a home purchase last year. (I guess my darling wife
didn't think too much of the bachelor pad.)

With the new machines available, I had to see what they were
like. The whole gang was really helpful in going over all of
the machines. Wolfgang, John, Pete, Scott, and, Tom played
tag-team showing me all of their neat new stuff. I was
impressed by some of the highlights such as:

Sturdy new KF rip fence (Rail is a large-diameter solid
steel bar)
CNC press brake formed chassis on all of the new
machines
AD 731 12" Jointer Planer (what is on the new CF-731)
Added reinforcements to the Saw and Shaper
Use of Frequency Inverter Drives for the single phase
options

From a manufacturing background, it is clear that Felder
listens to its customers and is committed to continual
product development. This is very evident in the number of
model changes over the last decade. The new features and
pricing made it well worth my while. This is especially
true after comparing Felder to the Knapp machine at the
January American Woodworker show.

I ordered the KF 700 S Pro Saw/Shaper combination with the
8' table and 7.5hp three phase motors. The AD-731
Jointer/Planer will be later. With the delivery time out
there, it will give me some time to sell off machinery and
clear some space. I think running a little 8 gauge wire
might be in order too! The saw is 7.5hp, the feeder (F-34)
is 1hp, the scoring unit is 1hp. This is a little more
amperage than my old 3hp Unisaw.

One thing I did appreciate is the approach of the Felder
sales team. Never, was I pressured, coerced, nor did I hear
any "closing" techniques used during this purchase. That
was a breath of fresh air compared with the sales tactics
I've seen used by other companies.

That's all I have to report for now. I did take a digital
camera with me on the trip. If anyone would like some shots
of the CF-731, let me know. I'd be glad to email them, or
post them to the site.

Cordially,
Brad Ellison
Felder sawblades...any comments?

Jason Gant
 

Hi everyone,

Can anyone comment on Felder's sawblades in general? In particular, I'm
looking at the following blades:

2 - TCT Universal Sawblades- one 300mm 48T for general cutting of hardwoods
and such. One 250mm 40T for use with the TCT Adjustable Scoring blade(100mm
20T). How will this work on Western Panolam melamine?

Prices seem real fair. How will these blades compare to my Forrest and Ghudo
blades? And how about sharpening service, does Felder do the sharpening? If
so, how's the pricing and turn around?

thanks as always, Jason G
Re: Felder sawblades...any comments?

[email protected]
 

Hi jason! I have the 48 tooth universal blade and have found it inferior
to my bored out 12" Forrest WWII. The runout is much higher, resulting in
some roughness in the cut - rather disappointing.The noise is also quite a
bit louder than the WWII which is already too high. I use the Felder blade
for rough cuts and wood from suspect sources (recycled).
On the other hand, I have a Felder (Leitz) rip blade that is outstanding
and leaves a finish superior to the WWII - go figure!
I also have a Forrest "Duraline High AT" blade (10") which is super on
plywood and melamine - no chip-out. I do not have the scoring unit so this is
my solution for veneer and laminates.
Be advised that none of my blades are the Felder "Silent Power" series.

Hope this helps;


Art Pentz
Re: My 3 Phase Dilema....the plot thickens!

PAUL LAPIERRE
 

Hello Jason,
I read your entry re. your 3 ph. dilemma. I don't know what the power
company did, but if they did do away w/ your standard 3 ph. you might look
into what I have for my shop. When I put in my Altendorf saw in 1984 the
power co. said they would give me 3 ph. at no cost. I run a pro shop so I
guess they figured they would recoup the cost soon enough. My shop is about
1/4 mile off the main road along which standard 3-wire 3ph. lines run. What
they gave me is called (locally, at least) bastard leg 3 ph., which means
that 2 legs come off of one transformer, and the third comes off a second
pot. The only limitation is that I have a ceiling of 20HP on any SINGLE
motor (not on total connected motors). At various times I may have up to
40HP running at one time with no problem. This might give you an option
rather than spending money on converters, switches, etc. Get in touch if I
can be of any help.
Good luck,
Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Gant <rjasong@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 10:29 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] My 3 Phase Dilema....the plot thickens!


Hello again FOG,

Thanks for all the input so far on my 3 phase mystery. Please continue
your
input, as it may have to do more with my motor option than my wiring. I'll
explain shortly.

First - Rick, thanks for the concern and warnings. This to me is a sign of
a
true friend. No offense taken here and PLEASE send them my way when it
even
remotely seems I'm venturing upon danger. Again thanks!

Today's findings:

After closer inspection and re-metering everything I noticed leg A feeding
into the Air Conditioner can also. This pretty much confirms my fears- leg
A
and either one of the others must supply the 240V to the air conditioner,
and legs B and C have to be the same phase(as Charlie and Wolfgang
suggested). Here's what's strange. The air conditioner unit before this
one
was 3 phase(thus the 3 wires feeding to the AC unit can). The power to the
house(3 hots and a neutral) used to be 3 phase. My 3 hots feed from 3
different wires at the pole. But last year(about 15 months ago) we had a
bad
ice storm. Everyone on this city block lost power(downed transformer I
guess?) for about a week. Perhaps at this time they eliminated the 3 phase
and jumpered those 2 legs as one??? Had they jumpered legs A and one of
the
others to the same phase, I'd have had problems with the air conditioner.
I'm just guessing this is what has happened, weird, hum??? This appears to
be very bad news for me, as I've just dumped about the value of an AF22LN
dust collector into "3 phase" breakers/service panel/wire and outlets into
my shop. I'm bummed, but I'll check with our power provider, perhaps I can
still get it returned here.

But assuming I'm stuck with single phase, how would you folks suggest I
configure my KF700pro. Should I go ahead and order 3 phase and perhaps
hardwire a rotory coverter into my shop(maybe I could still utilize those
breakers?). Or do I take advantage of the variable frequency/variable
speed
conversion option from Felder? Is this option avilable with motors larger
than 4hp, like 5.5hp as I want?

thanks alot,

Jason Gant














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Re: Dust collector piping question

Charlie Norton
 

I used a product from Nordfab in my DC system. It is a sealed clamp ring
that engages a rolled edge on each end of the duct to be joined. Nice
system, reasonably priced, but won't accommodate any axial play as will a
regular duct connector (minor disadvantage). After assembly, you will need
to verify continuity of the duct work (if this is important to you) since
the seal is non conductive.

Nordfab can be reached at www.nordfab.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Shepherd <geoff@...>
To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Dust collector piping question


Recently I saw a picture of a spiffy new ductwork system that features
built-in gasketted snap-clamp fittings. The advantages to this system: fast
installation, self-sealing, and easy to disassemble for modifications. The
source might be Grizzly of all places. I'll post a follow-up if I see it
again.

..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Tamarkin <tamarkin@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Dust collector piping question


Steve-Zip-screws and good quality duct tape are definitely the way to go,
especially
when your plans change, you get a new machine, and some duct disassembly
is in order!
Fifty gazillion sheet metal men can't be wrong! -Philip



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New Machine Comments

Philip Tamarkin
 

Per Scott Slater's questions, a few impressions of the new machine
series. Keep in mind that my machine is twelve years old, so some of
these changes or improvements may have been snuck in without my
knowing...

It's a pretty beast, of course, with the usual outstanding build quality
that we've come to love Felder for. Everything's well thought out.

The jointer table design is the most notable change-tables (connected
together and spring-loaded) rise and fall on a clever angled
dovetail-gib system that appears to keep them tight and aligned - John
Hartshorne, savant and saviour of jointer-table alignment, waxes
enthusiastic about the new system, so far available only in the 12"
width. (Any of you -41 owners have comments about 12" vs. 16" widths?
I haven't needed anything wider than 12" so far, but this is the last
(he said hopefully...) machine I'll buy, and I want it to be right, and
would wait for the 16" if considered necessary!) New jointer guard
looks convenient; good dust collection for both jointer and planer.
Jointer infeed table height is set with a curved bar that rises and
falls - it has no lock, but seems to stay put ok. I could see it
getting bumped and shifting in my shop, and prefer the
short-lever-with-lock of the BF7-41 - for me, the jointer gets reset
very infrequently, so I see no reason to make the adjustment
hyper-convenient.

The new phase-inverter seems to answer the age-old
3-phase-tool-in-a-single-phase-world dilemma. John H. claims no loss
of horsepower 'cause this little box is so damn smart and clever, so you
get a more-than-sufficient true 4 hp without the noise and fuss of a
rotary phase-converter! Nice.

Felder left well-enough alone with the saw - no obvious changes to the
trunnion system, same stellar tilt and raise-lower mechanism. Fence
systems unchanged to my eye. Shaper has, I think, a larger removable
ring in the table, otherwise left alone. Saw dust collector port is
moved to the right hand side of the cabinet, and connects to the blade
assembly with a longer hose, so short-hose disconnecting syndrome (SHDS,
a common malady with earlier saws when the arbor is tilted!) should be a
thing of the past! Scoring blade vertical and lateral adjustments now
occur through holes in the saw table - say goodbye to crawling under the
saw to adjust!

The overall construction (jointer/planer can now be separated from the
saw/shaper, BTW, in a process similar to the operation used to separate
Siamese twins!) shows a trend towards using precision-bent heavy gauge
sheet metal in place of the familiar weldments and castings - the
machine is probably a tad lighter than earlier models, but the mass
appears to still be present in places where it's needed, and I doubt
that the stability or precision of operation will be affected. Plastic
faces replace the familiar aluminum plates on the front of saw and
shaper - I'm sure they'll be fine, but lend an air of tackiness that
isn't justified by the little bit of cost savings they may have
developed.

Bottom line, it's a nice machine - improvements, (other than the jointer
tables) aren't earth-shaking, or justification for trading in a recent
machine for (...though if anyone feels a compelling need to replace
their newish 6-31 or 7-41, please email me!), but nice design, lotsa
bells and whistles, and a lot of convenience make it a worthwhile,
though not desperately necessary, trade-up for us older-model users.
No great revolutions in woodworking here, folks, but a measured, well
thought out evolution of a great and solid design. I like it!
Re: FELDER FOR SALE!

Scott Slater
 

Congratulations - Good luck selling your machine!

Any comments on the new machines, you are one of the first to actually see
them in person.


Scott Slater
scott@...
www.studiouw.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Tamarkin [mailto:tamarkin@...]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:22 PM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] FELDER FOR SALE!


Well, boys 'n' girls, this is what comes of the "hell, as long as I'm
going to Sacramento, I may as well stop by and look at the new machines
- won't cost me anything to look, and I might be able to con 'em out of
a T-shirt" line of thinking. Bad idea. Really bad! And expensive!
(Did get a T-shirt, though...)

Bottom line, it looks like I'll be getting a new 7-31 Pro, and I need to
sell my '88 BF 5-31, which was Paul LaPierre's previous machine before
he upgraded. It's in great condition, totally stock, totally functioning
- I've used and loved it for about six months, and if it wasn't for my
vow to have more writeoffs this year to minimize the tax bite, I'd be
keeping it and doing some upgrades. Some of the many cool specifics
about this machine:

4' cast iron sliding table - no outrigger, but available
1 1/4" and 30mm shaper spindles
Mortiser
New style Felder rip/jointer fence
4-knife quick change esta cutterhead
single phase - 3/3hp 220v motors
Biesemeyer 50" commercial fence assembly slides on/off stock dovetail
ways - you get
uninterrupted ripping capacity, and the whole fence ass'y slides
over when using the
planer. The whole fence and bracket assembly is easily removable if
the stock Felder fence
is preferred.
Vega crosscut gauge assembly has been added (easily removed) to the
stock Felder 1100 mm
guide, boosting crosscut to 62" with another piece of extrusion to
take capacity beyond 8 feet,
three crosscut stops. One crosscut stop for the original fence.
Two cast-iron extensions
Belt-drive scoring unit

I'm about 3 months out on the new machine, and would love to sell it
then, but can work out something if the buyer needs it sooner. It lives
on the Mendocino coast, but can be transported to Felder in Sacramento
or be shipped as needed. I'm asking $7000.

Please email me offlist if interested, or if other information is
needed! Thanks, Philip Tamarkin



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Re: Dust collector piping question

dolsid
 

I believe those are Nordfab products. Their telephone number is
1-800-532-0830; they don't sell retail but will put you in touch with a
local retail outlet. They made a reducer for me-Top quality products for
top dollar. Sid Hockens

----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Shepherd" <geoff@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Dust collector piping question


Recently I saw a picture of a spiffy new ductwork system that features
built-in gasketted snap-clamp fittings. The advantages to this system:
fast
installation, self-sealing, and easy to disassemble for modifications. The
source might be Grizzly of all places. I'll post a follow-up if I see it
again.

..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Tamarkin <tamarkin@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Dust collector piping question


Steve-Zip-screws and good quality duct tape are definitely the way to
go,
especially
when your plans change, you get a new machine, and some duct disassembly
is in order!
Fifty gazillion sheet metal men can't be wrong! -Philip



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FELDER FOR SALE!

Philip Tamarkin
 

Well, boys 'n' girls, this is what comes of the "hell, as long as I'm
going to Sacramento, I may as well stop by and look at the new machines
- won't cost me anything to look, and I might be able to con 'em out of
a T-shirt" line of thinking. Bad idea. Really bad! And expensive!
(Did get a T-shirt, though...)

Bottom line, it looks like I'll be getting a new 7-31 Pro, and I need to
sell my '88 BF 5-31, which was Paul LaPierre's previous machine before
he upgraded. It's in great condition, totally stock, totally functioning
- I've used and loved it for about six months, and if it wasn't for my
vow to have more writeoffs this year to minimize the tax bite, I'd be
keeping it and doing some upgrades. Some of the many cool specifics
about this machine:

4' cast iron sliding table - no outrigger, but available
1 1/4" and 30mm shaper spindles
Mortiser
New style Felder rip/jointer fence
4-knife quick change esta cutterhead
single phase - 3/3hp 220v motors
Biesemeyer 50" commercial fence assembly slides on/off stock dovetail
ways - you get
uninterrupted ripping capacity, and the whole fence ass'y slides
over when using the
planer. The whole fence and bracket assembly is easily removable if
the stock Felder fence
is preferred.
Vega crosscut gauge assembly has been added (easily removed) to the
stock Felder 1100 mm
guide, boosting crosscut to 62" with another piece of extrusion to
take capacity beyond 8 feet,
three crosscut stops. One crosscut stop for the original fence.
Two cast-iron extensions
Belt-drive scoring unit

I'm about 3 months out on the new machine, and would love to sell it
then, but can work out something if the buyer needs it sooner. It lives
on the Mendocino coast, but can be transported to Felder in Sacramento
or be shipped as needed. I'm asking $7000.

Please email me offlist if interested, or if other information is
needed! Thanks, Philip Tamarkin
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