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Hi Bob:

In reading the posts about the phase converter, I would offer an
alternative. With today's technology, have you explored using a VFD,
Variable Frequency Drive? Like you, I am in the "process" of buying a new
machine, but plan on using a VFD instead of the phase converter. As long as
you do not exceed the kw rating of a drive, I am of the opinion you can get
a better system, performance, and speed out of a drive.

With prices coming down, space required, and the flexibility of a drive,
along with preset speed, accell, decel parameters, etc, AND FOR LESS MONEY,
I would seriously look at the VFD.

Rick Strom
Virginia Operation

Scott, I am using Netscape 4.7, there must be a setting somewhere
I'm
missing. Rich


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "Scott Slater" <scott@s...>
wrote:

Rich,

I checked it in both Netscape 4.7 and IE 5 and 5.5, it comes out

fine with

all of those browsers. What browser are you using? Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard McComas [mailto:rmccomas@...]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 7:37 PM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Hard to Read Messages.


Geoff, I read them here on the web site. When the forum first
started I would read them in my e-mail program and there was no
problem there. Rich


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "Geoff Shepherd" <geoff@s...>
wrote:

Rich,

Are you reading messages on the eGroups web site or in your own

e-mail

program. If the latter, what is its name and version. It might be

as
simple

as turning word-wrap on in your e-mail program's read/view

settings,
but the

procedure for this will vary from program to program. With almost

one

hundred members here, one of us will likely have the solution for

you.

You can also read message on the web site:
www.egroups.com/group/felder-woodworking

..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard McComas <rmccomas@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 2:55 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Hard to Read Messages.

When I read the messages here on the forum the print goes beyond

the

edge of the screen making it necessary to scroll the page back

and

forth . Also if I print out a massage it does not print what's
doesn't appear on the screen. Is there a fix for this. Rich

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Hi John. I would have e-mailed you on this but I figured you were
busy changing diapers by now. According to the seller is was used
for approx. 6 months. I guess I should call Kay Ind. and try to find
out about the extra characters in the model # the seller gave me.

Thanks,

Bob Magnuson

--- In felder-woodworking@..., "John Renzetti"
<j.renzetti@w...> wrote:

Hi Bob, The MA-1 is the one I have in my shop. It will handle up

to

the 4kw motors(approx5.5hp)and 15hp total. Kay actually derates

their

converters. One of our owners has the 5kw(7.5hp)AD7-51 hooked up to
the MA1. I've had the saw, powerfeed and the jointer/planer on at

the

same time with the MA1. Kay recommends a dedicated 40amp circuit

and

a quick disconnect with 30a time delay fuses.
The $500 price tag sounds pretty good considering they are

around

$1000-1100 new. How old is the one for sale.
Take care,
John Renzetti
Chadds Ford, PA
(still no new arrival-he's almost a week late)
--- In felder-woodworking@..., "Bob Magnuson"
<bob.p.magnuson@h...> wrote:

Well, this is my first post to this board. I am not yet the

proud

owner of a Felder. Probably a year or two down the road before

that

happens.

But in preparation for the big day I have been looking for a Kay

Ind.

Phasemaster phase converter. I have found a used one for

$500.00.

It is a model # MA1-21ST-200. Unfortunatly it is in Detroit and

I

am

in Minneapolis and of course cannot take a look at it. Does the
model number make sense regarding what Felder recommends?

Thanks in advance for any information that you can provide.

Bob Magnuson

Hi Bob, The MA-1 is the one I have in my shop. It will handle up to
the 4kw motors(approx5.5hp)and 15hp total. Kay actually derates their
converters. One of our owners has the 5kw(7.5hp)AD7-51 hooked up to
the MA1. I've had the saw, powerfeed and the jointer/planer on at the
same time with the MA1. Kay recommends a dedicated 40amp circuit and
a quick disconnect with 30a time delay fuses.
The $500 price tag sounds pretty good considering they are around
$1000-1100 new. How old is the one for sale.
Take care,
John Renzetti
Chadds Ford, PA
(still no new arrival-he's almost a week late)
--- In felder-woodworking@..., "Bob Magnuson"
<bob.p.magnuson@h...> wrote:

Well, this is my first post to this board. I am not yet the proud
owner of a Felder. Probably a year or two down the road before

that

happens.

But in preparation for the big day I have been looking for a Kay

Ind.

Phasemaster phase converter. I have found a used one for $500.00.
It is a model # MA1-21ST-200. Unfortunatly it is in Detroit and I

am

in Minneapolis and of course cannot take a look at it. Does the
model number make sense regarding what Felder recommends?

Thanks in advance for any information that you can provide.

Bob Magnuson

According to the Phasemaster owner's manual I have, the MA1 indicates a 5HP
model, yet I am not sure what the rest of the number means.

I have found Kay Industries to be very helpful in terms of technical help.
Their corporate office is in South Bend, IN, and the phone number I have for
that office is 1-800-348-5257.

Good Luck.
Charlie Norton

Well, this is my first post to this board. I am not yet the proud
owner of a Felder. Probably a year or two down the road before that
happens.

But in preparation for the big day I have been looking for a Kay Ind.
Phasemaster phase converter. I have found a used one for $500.00.
It is a model # MA1-21ST-200. Unfortunatly it is in Detroit and I am
in Minneapolis and of course cannot take a look at it. Does the
model number make sense regarding what Felder recommends?

Thanks in advance for any information that you can provide.

Bob Magnuson

Rich,

I checked it in both Netscape 4.7 and IE 5 and 5.5, it comes out fine with
all of those browsers. What browser are you using? Scott

Geoff, I read them here on the web site. When the forum first
started I would read them in my e-mail program and there was no
problem there. Rich


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "Geoff Shepherd" <geoff@s...>
wrote:

Rich,

Are you reading messages on the eGroups web site or in your own

e-mail

program. If the latter, what is its name and version. It might be

as
simple

as turning word-wrap on in your e-mail program's read/view

settings,
but the

procedure for this will vary from program to program. With almost

one

hundred members here, one of us will likely have the solution for

you.

You can also read message on the web site:
www.egroups.com/group/felder-woodworking

..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard McComas <rmccomas@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 2:55 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Hard to Read Messages.

When I read the messages here on the forum the print goes beyond

the

edge of the screen making it necessary to scroll the page back and
forth . Also if I print out a massage it does not print what's
doesn't appear on the screen. Is there a fix for this. Rich

If I am preparing to run a bunch of rough sawn lumber through the jointer, I
will likely use the power feeder for speed, consistency, and safety. Jointing
is the first operation I apply to rough sawn lumber to get one good and flat
surface which can then run through the planer to create a parallel opposing
side and thicknessed to dimension in the planer as well. For surface planing
that could be done either with the jointer or planer I often use the jointer
because I feel that I have more control with the depth of cut on the jointer
than I do with the planer. This is mainly due to the planer's rollers
requiring a certain about of cut depth before they will grab the material.

The reality is that I try to use the power feeder with the jointer anytime I
am running a substantial amount of material or even when I am running fewer
pieces that require multiple passes to get a good flat suface. However, the
power feeder can compromise a jointing operation if the pressure applied by
the feeder rollers force a twist or bow out of the material while running past
the cutterhead thereby defeating your purpose. This phenomenon doesen't exist
when surface planing with the jointer.


"Richard McComas" <rmccomas@...> wrote:
Would someone please educate me. Why would you use a stock feeder on
a jointer? I seem to me that the feeder would push the stock
against
the table just like the feed rollers do when running stock through a
planer and the stock would be surfaced but not remove any bows or
twist. If that is the case then why not just run it through the
planer?


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "John Renzetti"
<j.renzetti@w...> wrote:

A few days ago, Leo Lopez had a snipe problem with his

jointer
table

when he used the powerfeed on it. Leo and I exchanged a couple of

messages

on this and we think the problem was caused by the feeder pushing

the

leading edge of the table down.
This week I had a slight taper problem. What I found when I put

the

straight edge on the table was that the outfeed table was a few

thousands

lower in the front. The solution I found was in not trying to

readjust the

table but to check the torque applied on the locking cam. Like

anything with

a lot of use the cam can wear and applying too much locking torque

will

cause the leading edge of the table to deflect downward. It's not

much, just

a few thousands, but enough to affect the quality of the cut. I

cleaned off

the cam, lower the table again and just tightened slightly. Result

was the

table was level to within .0015" over the length of the cutterhead.

Once the

table was level I just reset the height for optimum cutting. Cuts

like it

did when John H first set it up two years ago. A couple of people

had some

trouble with the table adjustment and I was wondering if it was

because of

different tightening torque's being applied.
Apparently the locking design has been changed on the new series
machines. It is like the Hammer series now, so this phenomenon

should only

appear on the 7 series jointer/planer combinations.
If any one has any other opinions on this, just post them here.
Take care,
John Renzetti
Chadds Ford, PA
Still waiting for child #3 to arrive. He's 3 days past the due date.

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Al - Welcome to the group... I remember corresponding with you about a year
or so ago when I was trying to decide between the X-31 and the Felder. I
guess you now know what I ended up with. Hope you get your shop and new
machines soon!

Take care of that back!
..Geoff

Rich,

Are you reading messages on the eGroups web site or in your own e-mail
program. If the latter, what is its name and version. It might be as simple
as turning word-wrap on in your e-mail program's read/view settings, but the
procedure for this will vary from program to program. With almost one
hundred members here, one of us will likely have the solution for you.

You can also read message on the web site:
www.egroups.com/group/felder-woodworking

..Geoff

Hello Al
I wish you luck with your new shop & machines, hope your back get's better!
Regards
Anthony

...good point! Generally, when I'm using the jointer, I'm taking multiple passes on
the ends of a board to start to straighten it out before taking long passes. I could
see where hanging the feeder on the outboard side of the jointer to pull the work
through could produce a prettier and flatter surfacethan hand feeding, since you're
ultimately using the outfeed table as the reference for straightness/flatness, but I've
never done it!! -Philip

Richard McComas wrote:

Would someone please educate me. Why would you use a stock feeder on
a jointer? I seem to me that the feeder would push the stock
against
the table just like the feed rollers do when running stock through a
planer and the stock would be surfaced but not remove any bows or
twist. If that is the case then why not just run it through the
planer?


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "John Renzetti"
<j.renzetti@w...> wrote:

A few days ago, Leo Lopez had a snipe problem with his

jointer
table

when he used the powerfeed on it. Leo and I exchanged a couple of

messages

on this and we think the problem was caused by the feeder pushing

the

leading edge of the table down.
This week I had a slight taper problem. What I found when I put

the

straight edge on the table was that the outfeed table was a few

thousands

lower in the front. The solution I found was in not trying to

readjust the

table but to check the torque applied on the locking cam. Like

anything with

a lot of use the cam can wear and applying too much locking torque

will

cause the leading edge of the table to deflect downward. It's not

much, just

a few thousands, but enough to affect the quality of the cut. I

cleaned off

the cam, lower the table again and just tightened slightly. Result

was the

table was level to within .0015" over the length of the cutterhead.

Once the

table was level I just reset the height for optimum cutting. Cuts

like it

did when John H first set it up two years ago. A couple of people

had some

trouble with the table adjustment and I was wondering if it was

because of

different tightening torque's being applied.
Apparently the locking design has been changed on the new series
machines. It is like the Hammer series now, so this phenomenon

should only

appear on the 7 series jointer/planer combinations.
If any one has any other opinions on this, just post them here.
Take care,
John Renzetti
Chadds Ford, PA
Still waiting for child #3 to arrive. He's 3 days past the due date.

When I read the messages here on the forum the print goes beyond the
edge of the screen making it necessary to scroll the page back and
forth . Also if I print out a massage it does not print what's
doesn't appear on the screen. Is there a fix for this. Rich

Hey Al, glad you signed up. It's been a long time since you sold the
X31 and done any serious woodworking. Don't forget to post any
pictures of your projects. Hope the back gets better.
Take care,
john Renzetti

--- In felder-woodworking@..., "Al Cline (GMNY)"
<76021.1276@c...> wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm happy to be a member of the felder woodworking group.

I haven't bought any Felder machines yet but I intend to buy a CF

731 Eco

and a FB 400 bandsaw and a dust collecter sometime within this

year.

My back pain is bothering me again now so we don't have our shop

set up

yet. My son and I bought a house here in Dortmund Germany. We

have a room

in the basement for a shop but it isn't big enough for the Felder

combo.

The Felder combo will be in our garage. My son and I spent some

time today

working on the shop. It looks much better now than it did before.

The people we bought the house from thinks that we can rent a

building just

a few minutes away to set up a good shop. They will contact the

person who

owns the building and let us know if we can rent it.

My back is getting sore so I will close for now.

Al Cline

A few days ago, Leo Lopez had a snipe problem with his jointer table
when he used the powerfeed on it. Leo and I exchanged a couple of messages
on this and we think the problem was caused by the feeder pushing the
leading edge of the table down.
This week I had a slight taper problem. What I found when I put the
straight edge on the table was that the outfeed table was a few thousands
lower in the front. The solution I found was in not trying to readjust the
table but to check the torque applied on the locking cam. Like anything with
a lot of use the cam can wear and applying too much locking torque will
cause the leading edge of the table to deflect downward. It's not much, just
a few thousands, but enough to affect the quality of the cut. I cleaned off
the cam, lower the table again and just tightened slightly. Result was the
table was level to within .0015" over the length of the cutterhead. Once the
table was level I just reset the height for optimum cutting. Cuts like it
did when John H first set it up two years ago. A couple of people had some
trouble with the table adjustment and I was wondering if it was because of
different tightening torque's being applied.
Apparently the locking design has been changed on the new series
machines. It is like the Hammer series now, so this phenomenon should only
appear on the 7 series jointer/planer combinations.
If any one has any other opinions on this, just post them here.
Take care,
John Renzetti
Chadds Ford, PA
Still waiting for child #3 to arrive. He's 3 days past the due date.

Hi Folks,

I'm happy to be a member of the felder woodworking group.

I haven't bought any Felder machines yet but I intend to buy a CF 731 Eco
and a FB 400 bandsaw and a dust collecter sometime within this year.

My back pain is bothering me again now so we don't have our shop set up
yet. My son and I bought a house here in Dortmund Germany. We have a room
in the basement for a shop but it isn't big enough for the Felder combo.
The Felder combo will be in our garage. My son and I spent some time today
working on the shop. It looks much better now than it did before.

The people we bought the house from thinks that we can rent a building just
a few minutes away to set up a good shop. They will contact the person who
owns the building and let us know if we can rent it.

My back is getting sore so I will close for now.

Al Cline

Link, I sent you an e-mail directly regarding your password. Let me know if
it works out OK.

..Geoff

Link Van Cleave wrote: