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Re: Hard to Read Messages.
Richard McComas
Geoff, I read them here on the web site. When the forum first
started I would read them in my e-mail program and there was no problem there. Rich --- In felder-woodworking@..., "Geoff Shepherd" <geoff@s...> wrote: Rich,e-mail program. If the latter, what is its name and version. It might beas simple as turning word-wrap on in your e-mail program's read/viewsettings, but the procedure for this will vary from program to program. With almostone hundred members here, one of us will likely have the solution foryou. the edge of the screen making it necessary to scroll the page back and |
Re: [ Re: Someone please educate me. ]
Leo Lopez
If I am preparing to run a bunch of rough sawn lumber through the jointer, I
will likely use the power feeder for speed, consistency, and safety. Jointing is the first operation I apply to rough sawn lumber to get one good and flat surface which can then run through the planer to create a parallel opposing side and thicknessed to dimension in the planer as well. For surface planing that could be done either with the jointer or planer I often use the jointer because I feel that I have more control with the depth of cut on the jointer than I do with the planer. This is mainly due to the planer's rollers requiring a certain about of cut depth before they will grab the material. The reality is that I try to use the power feeder with the jointer anytime I am running a substantial amount of material or even when I am running fewer pieces that require multiple passes to get a good flat suface. However, the power feeder can compromise a jointing operation if the pressure applied by the feeder rollers force a twist or bow out of the material while running past the cutterhead thereby defeating your purpose. This phenomenon doesen't exist when surface planing with the jointer. "Richard McComas" <rmccomas@...> wrote: Would someone please educate me. Why would you use a stock feeder on a jointer? I seem to me that the feeder would push the stock against the table just like the feed rollers do when running stock through a planer and the stock would be surfaced but not remove any bows or twist. If that is the case then why not just run it through the planer? --- In felder-woodworking@..., "John Renzetti" <j.renzetti@w...> wrote: A few days ago, Leo Lopez had a snipe problem with hisjointer table when he used the powerfeed on it. Leo and I exchanged a couple ofmessages on this and we think the problem was caused by the feeder pushingthe leading edge of the table down.the straight edge on the table was that the outfeed table was a fewthousands lower in the front. The solution I found was in not trying toreadjust the table but to check the torque applied on the locking cam. Likeanything with a lot of use the cam can wear and applying too much locking torquewill cause the leading edge of the table to deflect downward. It's notmuch, just a few thousands, but enough to affect the quality of the cut. Icleaned off the cam, lower the table again and just tightened slightly. Resultwas the table was level to within .0015" over the length of the cutterhead.Once the table was level I just reset the height for optimum cutting. Cutslike it did when John H first set it up two years ago. A couple of peoplehad some trouble with the table adjustment and I was wondering if it wasbecause of different tightening torque's being applied.should only appear on the 7 series jointer/planer combinations. To Post a message, send it to: felder-woodworking@... To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: felder-woodworking-unsubscribe@... Visit the group web site: ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at . |
Re: Happy to be a member
Geoff Shepherd
Al - Welcome to the group... I remember corresponding with you about a year
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or so ago when I was trying to decide between the X-31 and the Felder. I guess you now know what I ended up with. Hope you get your shop and new machines soon! Take care of that back! ..Geoff ----- Original Message -----
From: Al Cline (GMNY) <76021.1276@...> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 8:43 AM Subject: [felder-woodworking] Happy to be a member Hi Folks,room (snip) |
Re: Hard to Read Messages.
Geoff Shepherd
Rich,
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Are you reading messages on the eGroups web site or in your own e-mail program. If the latter, what is its name and version. It might be as simple as turning word-wrap on in your e-mail program's read/view settings, but the procedure for this will vary from program to program. With almost one hundred members here, one of us will likely have the solution for you. You can also read message on the web site: www.egroups.com/group/felder-woodworking ..Geoff ----- Original Message -----
From: Richard McComas <rmccomas@...> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 2:55 PM Subject: [felder-woodworking] Hard to Read Messages. When I read the messages here on the forum the print goes beyond the |
Re: Someone please educate me.
Philip Tamarkin
...good point! Generally, when I'm using the jointer, I'm taking multiple passes on
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the ends of a board to start to straighten it out before taking long passes. I could see where hanging the feeder on the outboard side of the jointer to pull the work through could produce a prettier and flatter surfacethan hand feeding, since you're ultimately using the outfeed table as the reference for straightness/flatness, but I've never done it!! -Philip Richard McComas wrote: Would someone please educate me. Why would you use a stock feeder on |
Re: Someone please educate me.
Richard McComas
Would someone please educate me. Why would you use a stock feeder on
a jointer? I seem to me that the feeder would push the stock against the table just like the feed rollers do when running stock through a planer and the stock would be surfaced but not remove any bows or twist. If that is the case then why not just run it through the planer? --- In felder-woodworking@..., "John Renzetti" <j.renzetti@w...> wrote: A few days ago, Leo Lopez had a snipe problem with hisjointer table when he used the powerfeed on it. Leo and I exchanged a couple ofmessages on this and we think the problem was caused by the feeder pushingthe leading edge of the table down.the straight edge on the table was that the outfeed table was a fewthousands lower in the front. The solution I found was in not trying toreadjust the table but to check the torque applied on the locking cam. Likeanything with a lot of use the cam can wear and applying too much locking torquewill cause the leading edge of the table to deflect downward. It's notmuch, just a few thousands, but enough to affect the quality of the cut. Icleaned off the cam, lower the table again and just tightened slightly. Resultwas the table was level to within .0015" over the length of the cutterhead.Once the table was level I just reset the height for optimum cutting. Cutslike it did when John H first set it up two years ago. A couple of peoplehad some trouble with the table adjustment and I was wondering if it wasbecause of different tightening torque's being applied.should only appear on the 7 series jointer/planer combinations. |
Re: Happy to be a member
John Renzetti
Hey Al, glad you signed up. It's been a long time since you sold the
X31 and done any serious woodworking. Don't forget to post any pictures of your projects. Hope the back gets better. Take care, john Renzetti --- In felder-woodworking@..., "Al Cline (GMNY)" <76021.1276@c...> wrote: Hi Folks,731 Eco and a FB 400 bandsaw and a dust collecter sometime within thisyear. set up yet. My son and I bought a house here in Dortmund Germany. Wehave a room in the basement for a shop but it isn't big enough for the Feldercombo. The Felder combo will be in our garage. My son and I spent sometime today working on the shop. It looks much better now than it did before.building just a few minutes away to set up a good shop. They will contact theperson who owns the building and let us know if we can rent it. |
troubleshooting jointer table
John Renzetti
A few days ago, Leo Lopez had a snipe problem with his jointer table
when he used the powerfeed on it. Leo and I exchanged a couple of messages on this and we think the problem was caused by the feeder pushing the leading edge of the table down. This week I had a slight taper problem. What I found when I put the straight edge on the table was that the outfeed table was a few thousands lower in the front. The solution I found was in not trying to readjust the table but to check the torque applied on the locking cam. Like anything with a lot of use the cam can wear and applying too much locking torque will cause the leading edge of the table to deflect downward. It's not much, just a few thousands, but enough to affect the quality of the cut. I cleaned off the cam, lower the table again and just tightened slightly. Result was the table was level to within .0015" over the length of the cutterhead. Once the table was level I just reset the height for optimum cutting. Cuts like it did when John H first set it up two years ago. A couple of people had some trouble with the table adjustment and I was wondering if it was because of different tightening torque's being applied. Apparently the locking design has been changed on the new series machines. It is like the Hammer series now, so this phenomenon should only appear on the 7 series jointer/planer combinations. If any one has any other opinions on this, just post them here. Take care, John Renzetti Chadds Ford, PA Still waiting for child #3 to arrive. He's 3 days past the due date. |
Happy to be a member
Hi Folks,
I'm happy to be a member of the felder woodworking group. I haven't bought any Felder machines yet but I intend to buy a CF 731 Eco and a FB 400 bandsaw and a dust collecter sometime within this year. My back pain is bothering me again now so we don't have our shop set up yet. My son and I bought a house here in Dortmund Germany. We have a room in the basement for a shop but it isn't big enough for the Felder combo. The Felder combo will be in our garage. My son and I spent some time today working on the shop. It looks much better now than it did before. The people we bought the house from thinks that we can rent a building just a few minutes away to set up a good shop. They will contact the person who owns the building and let us know if we can rent it. My back is getting sore so I will close for now. Al Cline |
Re: Membership Profile Drive!
Geoff Shepherd
Link, I sent you an e-mail directly regarding your password. Let me know if
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it works out OK. ..Geoff ----- Original Message -----
From: Link Van Cleave <lvc@...> To: <felder-woodworking@...> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Membership Profile Drive! Geoff, When I try to register it says that I already have, when I try tosign in it says that my pass word is invalid and I have never put in a pass word. SoI am stuck and can't move. What now? Link |
Re: Membership Profile Drive!
Link Van Cleave
Link Van Cleave wrote:
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Geoff, When I try to register it says that I already have, when I try to sign in it |
Re: Membership Profile Drive!
Geoff Shepherd
One more point on filling out your membership profile: So that our group
members may see selected portions of your profile (the sections you choose to make visible), you also need to do the following: Visit the main group web page: 1) Click the "subscribe" link on the left column. 2) Make sure the 4th box down is checked. The one which says "Display my profile to members of this group ". You can also select your email delivery mode while here. 3) Click the "Save Changes" button. Thank you for your patience with the new system. -- Geoff Shepherd |
Membership Profile Drive!
Geoff Shepherd
Hi, all! It's Round Two of the Membership Profile Drive!
To make our membership directory more useful for all of us, it would help if everyone took a moment to fill out their member profiles on the web site. You can do this using the following link: If you haven't visited the web site before, you'll need to sign in and choose a password for yourself. It's surprisingly easy and secure. As you fill out your profile, check the box that allows other group members to see your profile. Our group is private, so what you enter is only visible to other members of our group. In addition, eGroups has a policy of not using your information without your permission. At a minimum, it would be good to have your name and location (i.e. city/state) filled in. You can provide more than that if you want. In addition, we've made a few changes to the forum. Membership is now restricted, so new members are not let in until they are approved by one of the group moderators (myself, John Renzetti, or Scott Slater)... this gives us some additional privacy. The live Chat Room has been brought back on-line so that we might have a weekly chat night if anyone is interested. Thanks! -- Geoff Shepherd |
Re: Stock Feeding?
feldermw
Hi Richard, If you would like to machine these boards i would always machine
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the ends first, if the parts are narrow i would either glue wide, than machine, than rip, or put a clamp on a numder of pieces to easily bridge the gap than machine depending on the material ect you might take 2 passes, feed rate will be slowest but should see no burn. Always make a practice pass with tool out of the way and it is a good safety procedure to shake everything first to be sure nothing is loose. Also not a bad idea to always orient your kip levers in one direction so at a glance you can see everything is tight. mac feldermw+AEA-midplains.net -----Original Message-----
From: Richard McComas +ADw-rmccomas+AEA-alaskalife.net+AD4- To: felder-woodworking+AEA-egroups.com +ADw-felder-woodworking+AEA-egroups.com+AD4- Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: +AFs-felder-woodworking+AF0- Stock Feeding? +AD4---- In felder-woodworking+AEA-egroups.com, Mark Rupersburg +ADw-mark+AEA-e...+AD4- +AD4-wrote:Mark, I ask the same question over at Badger Pond and received +AD4-some good responses. You might want to go over there and read them +AD4-for you own information. Rich +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4APg- Richard+ADs- +AD4APg- I don't have experience with this either, but wouldn't try it +AD4-without a sliding fixture +AD4APg- -- for both cut consistency and safety. Set-ups vary widely so it +AD4-may work for some +AD4APg- but not others. You can, of course, experiment without it and +AD4-you'll know a lot more +AD4APg- about after a few passes. +AD4APg- +AD4APg- Good luck and be careful, +AD4APg- +AD4APg- Mark +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4APg- McComas wrote: +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4- Hi everyone, I recently purchase my first stock feeder ( 1 HP, 3 +AD4APg- +AD4- wheel, Steff-Maggi from Felder U.S.A.) and will be using it on a +AD4APg- +AD4- Delta 3 HP shaper. I have no experience with stock feeders but +AD4-have +AD4APg- +AD4- bought a couple books on shapers. My books do not address the +AD4APg- +AD4- particular question I have but I am sure some here has the answer. +AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4APg- +AD4- When making raised panels that are long but narrow ( lets say 24+ACI- +AD4APg- +AD4- long +AD4APg- +AD4- and 6-8+ACI- wide ) can one run the 6-8+ACI- end grain stock through the +AD4APg- +AD4- feeder the same as you would the long dimension or do I need a +AD4-jig, +AD4APg- +AD4- a sliding table or something to help keep the stock straight? +AD4-Rich. +AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4APg- +AD4- To Post a message, send it to: felder-woodworking+AEA-eGroups.com +AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4APg- +AD4- To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: +AD4-felder-woodworking-unsubscribe+AEA-eGroups.com +AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4APg- +AD4- Visit the group web site: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-To Post a message, send it to: felder-woodworking+AEA-eGroups.com +AD4- +AD4-To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: felder-woodworking-unsubscribe+AEA-eGroups.com +AD4- +AD4-Visit the group web site: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- |
Re: Stock Feeding?
Richard McComas
--- In felder-woodworking@..., Mark Rupersburg <mark@e...>
wrote:Mark, I ask the same question over at Badger Pond and received some good responses. You might want to go over there and read them for you own information. Rich without a sliding fixture -- for both cut consistency and safety. Set-ups vary widely so itmay work for some but not others. You can, of course, experiment without it andyou'll know a lot more about after a few passes.have jig,bought a couple books on shapers. My books do not address the Rich.a sliding table or something to help keep the stock straight? felder-woodworking-unsubscribe@...
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Re: [RE: Newbie seeking advice???? ]
dolsid
Leo: Thanks for the information. I will check with Austin tomorrow.
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From: "Leo Lopez" <leozepolusa@...> To: <felder-woodworking@...> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [RE: [Felder-woodworking] Newbie seeking advice???? ] dolsid,,,Sorry but I can't seem to get member names and emailfelder-woodworking-unsubscribe@...
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Re: Snipe
Charlie Norton
Hello Leo,
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I have noticed a slight amount of flexibility in the infeed and outfeed tables...that is both after physically moving the machine, and (most commonly) after moving the tables up for thickness planning. I have now gotten in the habit of re-aligning the table before any surface planning. This may sound crazy, but I can get (at least one side) of the infeed table aligned within .0005" in less than 20 seconds with a dial indicator on a magnetic base. I too, had severe snipe as the machine was delivered and I had to raise the outfeed table to correct this. You might check to make sure that the blades are at the correct height with respect to the outfeed table surface. Seems to me I adjusted it so that the blades were 0.0005-0.001 higher that the outfeed table. Good luck! --Charlie Norton -----Original Message-----
From: Leo Lopez <leozepolusa@...> To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...> Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:14 AM Subject: [felder-woodworking] Snipe I am having a somewhat sudden problem with snipe using my jointer.felder-woodworking-unsubscribe@...
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