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Re: Chat room closed...

 

Geoff,

How do I open the "vault", and the "Feb. special"?

Thanx, John

Geoff Shepherd wrote:

Folks... I'm going to disable this forum's supposedly "members-only" chat
room for now just so nobody runs into the same thing I did last evening and
gets the wrong idea! I was under the impression that only our forum's
members could participate in the chat room feature. Well, last night I left
my browser in the chat room just in case any of our members dropped by.
Imagine my surprise when I received a "private message" from someone not
connected with our forum. I won't repeat the contents of the message here
(not appropriate), but I had to laugh because it was just like some "evils
of the internet" story we used to see on the 6-o'clock news a few years ago.

I sent a complaint to eGroups management... seems like they need to work on
some security issues with the forum chat rooms. In any case, we're not using
it right now, so I see no harm in disabling it. Assuming they get it fixed,
maybe in the future we could have a weekly chat evening or some such if
enough folks were interested.

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Chat room closed...

Geoff Shepherd
 

Folks... I'm going to disable this forum's supposedly "members-only" chat
room for now just so nobody runs into the same thing I did last evening and
gets the wrong idea! I was under the impression that only our forum's
members could participate in the chat room feature. Well, last night I left
my browser in the chat room just in case any of our members dropped by.
Imagine my surprise when I received a "private message" from someone not
connected with our forum. I won't repeat the contents of the message here
(not appropriate), but I had to laugh because it was just like some "evils
of the internet" story we used to see on the 6-o'clock news a few years ago.

I sent a complaint to eGroups management... seems like they need to work on
some security issues with the forum chat rooms. In any case, we're not using
it right now, so I see no harm in disabling it. Assuming they get it fixed,
maybe in the future we could have a weekly chat evening or some such if
enough folks were interested.

--
Geoff Shepherd (list manger)
mailto:Geoff@...


BF6-31 Question

Geoff Shepherd
 

I've had my '97 BF6-31 for almost two weeks now, and have been spending my
evenings cleaning up the machine and checking alignment. One thing I have
noticed is that the fence when mounted on the in-feed jointer table can not
allow use of the full width of the jointer... to hang on to the dovetail
rail it uses up a few inches of available jointing width. One solution I
heard was to not use the jointer fence at all when face-planing wide boards.
I haven't really thought about whether that would have safety risks or not.

I know there is a cast-iron "dovetail-on-dovetail" adapter piece which can
be used to extend the dovetail rails a number of inches for ripping or
jointing, but I was more impressed with the bolt-on "filler piece" available
for the 7-series combos. Unfortunately, this bolt-on piece is not available
for the 6-series, but by gosh it should be! It looks like there are even
bolt holes ready for mounting just such a thing.

Has anyone found a solution to this? Maybe having a machine shop mill a
table extension just for this? If there was enough interest, maybe we could
get several in the group together for a larger discounted order from a shop,
or perhaps we could convince Felder to come out with this accessory for our
machines. I'm assuming such an extension would not interfere with anything
when tilting the tables up for planing... but maybe I've overlooked
something.

Thoughts, anyone?

--
..Geoff


Official Welcome Wagon... (long)

Geoff Shepherd
 

Better grab a cup of coffee, I think this is going to be a little long...

I wanted to say "Welcome!" to all the members who have signed up to the new
Felder Owner's Group over the last day or so. We are up to 28 members as of
now with currently 17 invitations still unanswered. So, maybe in a few days
we'll be up over 40 members. From there, I think this forum will take off
beyond our expectations as word gets out to the many new, existing, and
possibly prospective Felder/Hammer machine owners worldwide. Please feel
free to invite other folks who might be interested in this forum. Anyone who
wants to subscribe just needs to send a blank e-mail to:
felder-woodworking-subscribe@... ... that's it. We can also send out
special invitation e-mails from the member directory on the web site that
make it even easier.

First off, if you have any questions or problems with your forum membership,
please visit our forum's web site at:
... in fact,
bookmark that link (yes, that one, right there!) as it makes a great
"portal" page for getting to our group's web site. If you need further
assistance, send me an e-mail at mailto:Geoff@... ... In addition,
as keeper of the original e-mail list prior to this forum, and Unofficial
East-Coast Model Felder Super-Shiny-Floor-Woodshop/Five-Star Bed &
Breakfast & Shop (how's that for a title, John), Mr. John Renzetti also has
manager access to this forum and can help out as needed. However, this whole
system is designed to let each member pretty much self-administer their own
memberships, so check out that web site. It's fairly self-explanatory and
tends to lead you by the nose through most tasks.

Speaking of memberships, there has been a little bit of confusion between
subscribing to this e-mail forum and having an official eGroups account. The
latter is not required for the former, and for better or worse, simply
subscribing to this e-mail forum doesn't automatically create an account for
you on eGroups. A password-protected account on eGroups is required if you
want to use many of our group's web site functions. Fortunately, the eGroups
membership is free and very easy to set up. You can go to
and create your account there, or from our group web
site, there is a "Log In" button near the top right of the page. Also, it
will give you the log in screen if you try to access one of the
"members-only" features, so one way or another you'll be able to create an
account. Once you have created your eGroups account (and if you have cookies
enabled on your browser - most do by default), you won't have to log in
again to use the web site unless you use the log out option or want to
access the site from a different computer. The eGroup accounts are necessary
to ensure that only our group's members have access to certain features,
such as the member directory. Hope that makes some sense! It's easier done
than described, I think!

Along the thoughts of minor confusions, we found another interesting one
yesterday. If you view the member directory at the web site, you might
notice your e-mail address looks funny. Well, this is intentional. The
eGroups system intentionally mangles the first part of your e-mail address
to foil "spam-bots," programs that automatically surf the web harvesting
e-mail addresses for junk mail purposes. Rest assured, if you are receiving
this message, the system does indeed have your correct e-mail address stored
internally. I didn't quite figure this one out at first, because as the
"list owner," the e-mail addresses are shown in the clear to me.

Wow - the Vault has turned out to be very popular already! This is where we
can share pictures of our shops, machines, projects, drawings, etc... Any of
us can upload to it, but please make sure to create your very own sub-folder
to put your pictures in. That way, we don't end up with a big shoebox full
of photos. Unfortunately, it is time consuming to move uploads to different
folders after uploading, so it's best to upload to the right folder to begin
with. We have 20MB of space available to us, so try to compress/scan your
images to a reasonable size such as 50K or so. Since they take up less space
(and download faster), JPEG images are preferred over GIF or BMP.. Also,
after uploading take a moment to let the group know about your pictures and
the descriptions. If you need help with uploading, contact John or myself...
once you've done it once, it's surprisingly easy. If you don't have a
digital camera (yet!), most photo developers now offer a "pictures on disc"
option for a nominal fee. I used to use Seattle Filmworks
(www.seattlefilmworks.com) before I had a digital camera. There are many
places that will scan photos for you as well, and scanners are pretty cheap
to buy these days. I'm sure there are folks on this group that are willing
to scan a photo or two for other members. Lots of options there.

What else.... it seems like the group was pretty quiet on the old e-mail
list. I hope with the "community" feel this new forum provides that
conversations will pick up a bit... so, don't hesitate to post a message to
the group. That's what helps make this fun and worthwhile. Gotta question, a
thought, a quandary, an improvement, a jig, need advice, or just want to
gloat about a new machine or completed project? Post!

I may post this message again next week or whenever we get a bunch of new
members signed up. I apologize in advance for the repeats.

And on that note....
Have a great weekend!
--
Geoff Shepherd (list manager)
mailto:Geoff@...
Everett, WA
BF6-31, AF-22


Articles uploaded

John Renzetti
 

I just made a new folder that has the newsletters I sent out plus an
article on installing 3 phase power in the shop, and some machine
reviews. If anyone else would like to write a review of their machines
please feel free to do so and upload them here. Also this would be a
good place to put some tips. Art Pentz has given me some great ideas in
the last couple of years, so maybe Art could write some of them up here.


Special of the Month

James Voos
 

Great!

Glad to see this opportunity for enthusiastic Felder owners. Too bad I
already own this months special :)

jim


Re: Special of the month

Geoff Shepherd
 

Wow! Cool - thanks for doing that... you even put something on special that
has been near the top of my wish list.

James - you now have the official magic touch with the surveys... so, what's
the next one! :-)

..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: Wolfgang Geiger <wolfgang@...>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 4:55 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Special of the month


Since James Voos had such a great idea with the special of the month
and the poll shows you guys are interested in something like that I
uploaded a folder in the vault with the "Special of the Month February
2000". This offer is exclusively available for members of the FELDER
Owner's Group and will be updated every month.

Wolfgang
FELDER USA


Special of the month

Wolfgang Geiger
 

Since James Voos had such a great idea with the special of the month
and the poll shows you guys are interested in something like that I
uploaded a folder in the vault with the "Special of the Month February
2000". This offer is exclusively available for members of the FELDER
Owner's Group and will be updated every month.

Wolfgang
FELDER USA


Re: uploaded file to vault

Geoff Shepherd
 

Hey John, nice pictures! So, you are going to build one of those workbenches
for each of the Charter List Members, right?? ;-) Hehehe... ;-)

The bench looks fantastic with the drawer fronts installed. I think I
remember you explaining to me once how you milled the finger joints on the
bench top using your KF-7 shaper... did you use the slotting cutter for
that? Maybe you could fill the group in on that...

Yes, uploading to the vault is amazingly easy to do if you follow the
on-screen instructions.

--
Geoff Shepherd (list manager)
mailto:Geoff@...
Everett, WA
BF6-31, AF-22

----- Original Message -----
From: John Renzetti <j.renzetti@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 2:22 AM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] uploaded file to vault


Just uploaded a jpg file to the vault showing the bench I built, which
was the first big project using the machines. It was pretty easy to
upload.
This idea of Geoff's is working pretty good.


uploaded file to vault

John Renzetti
 

Just uploaded a jpg file to the vault showing the bench I built, which
was the first big project using the machines. It was pretty easy to
upload.
This idea of Geoff's is working pretty good.


Re: vault pictures...

Philip Tamarkin
 

...sucks 'em all up, and dumps all the debris in the middle of MY shop!? One of life's great mysteries solved - I always thought there was just too much debris around here to come from me alone!? -P

Geoff Shepherd wrote:

Welcome, Philip!

If you look in the background of the picture, it's that AF-22 dust collector
that is responsible for the clean shop... any dust, chips, scraps, beer
bottles, and small furry animals within 1/4 mile radius are promptly sucked
up into that system. With the garage doors rolled up, we're talking more
like 1/2 mile radius at that point. I can't wait to get mine wired in... I
hope it will clean up the yard for me so I can do less yard work...

;-)

--
..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Tamarkin
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:17 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] vault pictures...

> ...John's shop is WAY too clean to be doing any real work! Looks like
> the Felder catalog, too, lacking only the guy with the cool moustache!
> Where's the scrap? Miscuts? Pinups? Band-Aids? Beer bottles? Scattered
> wrench set?? These, my friends, are what make up a real shop, IMHO!
> (Yeah, I'd trade my first-borne for a setup like his!? Terminally
> jealous!) -Philip Tamarkin (BF-5 and damn proud of it!)

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Re: vault pictures...

Geoff Shepherd
 

Welcome, Philip!

If you look in the background of the picture, it's that AF-22 dust collector
that is responsible for the clean shop... any dust, chips, scraps, beer
bottles, and small furry animals within 1/4 mile radius are promptly sucked
up into that system. With the garage doors rolled up, we're talking more
like 1/2 mile radius at that point. I can't wait to get mine wired in... I
hope it will clean up the yard for me so I can do less yard work...

;-)

--
..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Tamarkin <tamarkin@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:17 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] vault pictures...


...John's shop is WAY too clean to be doing any real work! Looks like
the Felder catalog, too, lacking only the guy with the cool moustache!
Where's the scrap? Miscuts? Pinups? Band-Aids? Beer bottles? Scattered
wrench set? These, my friends, are what make up a real shop, IMHO!
(Yeah, I'd trade my first-borne for a setup like his! Terminally
jealous!) -Philip Tamarkin (BF-5 and damn proud of it!)


vault pictures...

Philip Tamarkin
 

...John's shop is WAY too clean to be doing any real work! Looks like
the Felder catalog, too, lacking only the guy with the cool moustache!
Where's the scrap? Miscuts? Pinups? Band-Aids? Beer bottles? Scattered
wrench set? These, my friends, are what make up a real shop, IMHO!
(Yeah, I'd trade my first-borne for a setup like his! Terminally
jealous!) -Philip Tamarkin (BF-5 and damn proud of it!)


Note on Using the Vault

Geoff Shepherd
 

Group - it would be a good idea as we upload pictures to the vault to create
appropriate sub-folders within the Felder Owners Shops folder... I created a
couple already, so we can just follow that pattern or as we see fit. I must
say that this is a pretty slick system - I like it!

--
Geoff Shepherd
List Manager
mailto:Geoff@...
Everett, WA
BF6-31, AF-22


Re: Check the Vault!

Geoff Shepherd
 

Jim,

Great pictures! Looks like nearly the same barely-adequate truck I used to
pick my up BF6-31 last week! How did you smash your fence?

I took the liberty to post a picture of John's shop that I've previously
shared (with John's permission) on the Badger Pond woodworking forum
(www.wwforum.com) .... this is a picture I took while visiting his shop last
Summer, and it is what convinced me of the enourmous productivity benefits
of going with three-phase power! Check it out in the vault!



I'll post pictures of my MESSY MESSY shop soon!

..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: James Voos <jvoos@...>
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Check the Vault!


I posted two pictures, one of my machine being delivered, another of
the difficulty Gerhard has with driving (long story). Anyway if I get
a greenlite from Mr. Renzetti, I will post a picture of his shop if we
wants. It would be great to see where these wonderful machines reside.
(Don't worry if your shop is a mess, it will make me feel better).


POLL: Tooling Discount for the forum

 

Given that we are all active advocates of Felder Machinery, do you think that Felder ought to sponser one tooling special per month to the Group, kind of like Jesada does.

----

Please select one of the following:

o Great Idea.
o I could take it or leave it
o No. Felder tooling pricing is too cheap already!
o No. I've already mortgaged my house for the new shaper cutter


by going to the following Web form:



Thank you!


Check the Vault!

James Voos
 

I posted two pictures, one of my machine being delivered, another of
the difficulty Gerhard has with driving (long story). Anyway if I get
a greenlite from Mr. Renzetti, I will post a picture of his shop if we
wants. It would be great to see where these wonderful machines reside.
(Don't worry if your shop is a mess, it will make me feel better).

jim


FELDER Support for this group

Geoff Shepherd
 

Although this list is currently served up for us without charge, the
company providing the service is advertiser supported. This means we
have "discreet" little ads at the bottom of each message. They do
provide an Ad-Free option that runs $5 or $6 per month, paid anually by
check. If Felder USA would like to pick up the tab on this option, that
would be a nice gesture and one that I'm sure we would all appreciate.

If we want to set that option up, let me know and I'll post the
information of where the check should be mailed to.

--
Geoff Shepherd
List Manager
Everett, WA


Welcome, again...

Geoff Shepherd
 

Great - glad to see more folks getting signed up!

In my last welcome message, I posted the incorrect URL for this group's home
page. The correct URL is:



Please visit this page to review prior postings and make use of other cool
features available to this group such as pictures and chat.

A good way to sign your messages to the group is something like the
following: name, e-mail address, location, equipment.

--
Geoff Shepherd
List Manager
mailto:geoff@...
Everett, WA
BF6-31, AF-22


Welcome!

Geoff Shepherd
 

Wow! I'm curious to know how you guys subscribed before the official
invitations were sent out? In any case, welcome to the group!

Official invitations just went out a few minutes ago to the thirty-four
members of the old informal e-mail group, so we will soon see our regulars
get signed up with the new list.

Aside from this e-mail list, there is a web page at:

www.egroups.com/felder-woodworking/info.htm

This web site allows us to search old discussions, post new messages via a
web interface (useful when using a different computer than your own), chat
in real time with other members, voice teleconference without long-distance
fees, keep a shared calendar of events (such as group chat nights, or
whatever), share links to related web sites, post pictures of
shops/projects/etc, and even conduct surveys. I'm sure we will find some of
these features useful and engaging right away, but others may not have much
use for us for awhile. I guess we'll see how it goes.

Should FelderUSA like to add a "subscription box" for this forum to their
web site, HTML code and instructions are available at the following link:



--
Geoff Shepherd
List Manager