Re: Dual 51 Electrical Problem
Hy Imram . Could be so kind to repost those schematic with higher resolution picture . Thank you , VlAD , ROMANIA
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 06:25 AM, Karl Hesser wrote:
Another option for you would be to call a tow truck company and get a roll back truck to pick up and deliver for you. They normally charge by the hour but it potentially could cost less than renting a forklift. They can back up to your garage door and offload it easily. I have done this in the past with large items difficult to move with a lift.?
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If you did choose to go this route, I would be careful about liability.?? While toe truck company's insurance may cover vehicles being towed, it is entirely possible that the insurance will not cover towed machinery.? I would ask the tow truck company for a copy of their insurance and then speak to the insurance company to verify what is covered.?? If there's an accident or the saw falls off the tow truck, it's essentially a $20,000+ loss.? Maybe it's just me, but I'm very paranoid about this type of risk.
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Hi Stan, I also am mostly a solid wood user, with the occasional plywood or termite vomit (melamine) cabinet construction. The scoring saw is very useful with melamine and the occasional veneered plywood that refuses to play nicely.
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I have a Hammer B3W with the 1250mm sliding table which allows the crosscutting of a 4 X 8 sheet of material. I have never wanted a longer slider, you always have to live with the slider regardless of what you're cutting.
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I have the 800mm rip capacity with the full table, and an aftermarket overarm guard.
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Normally the outrigger is not on my machine, it hangs on the wall and I use the crosscut fence on the sliding table for most work.
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I have the mobility kit on mine, along with a stock feeder which I use on the saw and shaper.
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I've owned mine for 15 years, it has had no failures or loss of calibration, I do PM on it once a year, use is around 5 to 10 hours per week.
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I use the shaper a lot, prior to the B3W I had a General shaper with a 1 1/4" spindle, so I have a 1 1/4" and 30mm spindle on my B3W which allows me to use stock Felder cutters and my older cutters, as well as a couple of bobbin sanders on the 30mm spindle as well as saw blades and the dado set from the saw.
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Regards, Rod.
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
I recently rented a warehouse forklift from United Rentals for a half day with trailer to haul it to my shop for $150 to unload my K700S and FB710. Another option for you would be to call a tow truck company and get a roll back truck to pick up and deliver for you. They normally charge by the hour but it potentially could cost less than renting a forklift. They can back up to your garage door and offload it easily. I have done this in the past with large items difficult to move with a lift.?
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Re: What’s wrong with my Thicknesser?
FWIW, I was able to see both videos.
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 1:13?AM, xenonkuraz via groups.io <xenonkuraz@...> wrote: ? It appears my video uploads didn’t work.?
the sound is like a chugging sound, and after doing some online reading the belt is my next suspect.?
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Aaron is correct, at least my policy, Liberty Mutual at that time, would not cover rented trailer or the contents. However for very little money I added that insurance twice now with LM. I could have added it for a day if I wanted. It covers the trailer and the contents.
One time it was Uhaul open trailer and I picked up a riding mower from couple of hrs of driving distance. Second time it was my friends 20’ long trailer that I borrowed to pick up lumber from Wisconsin.
I would never NOT get this rider.
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 12:27?AM, Aaron Inami via groups.io <ainami@...> wrote: ? Be aware that if you try to move it yourself with a rented trailer or whatnot, many auto insurance companies will not cover anything on the trailer regarding accidents or damage.?? That's a very expensive risk, but it's up to you.?? That's why I hired a rigging company to deliver the machine and place the pallet into my garage.?
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: What’s wrong with my Thicknesser?
It appears my video uploads didn’t work.?
the sound is like a chugging sound, and after doing some online reading the belt is my next suspect.?
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Hi Stan. My bad. I misread. Sorry for the confusion my end. All the best!
Warm regards,
Lucky
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I didn’t had an issue pushing a pallet jack with a machine on it through the driveway slop.
The SCM FS7 (1271kg) required some pushing, but the pallet jack didn’t have issue with the weight.
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Lucky,?
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I didn’t had an issue pushing a pallet jack with a machine on it through the driveway slop.
The SCM FS7 (1271kg) required some pushing, but the pallet jack didn’t have issue with the weight.
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
That would be 14 percent, not 14 degrees. 38-44" rise over a 20' run, so about 8-9°.
On Wednesday, April 9th, 2025 at 9:14 PM, David Luckensmeyer <david@...> wrote:
Is anyone taking into account the 14 degrees incline or decline (I missed that detail?) of the driveway... That’s very steep! I would not want to operate a forklift with a load this big and heavy. And a pallet jack will be difficult if not impossible
without some serious winching/rigging planning.?
In Australia we would use a “Franna”, or articulated mobile crane designed to take heavy loads without outriggers.
While freight/cranes are relatively expensive here, I'm surprised at the kind of prices you guys face in the USA. Basically your quotes in USD are about what I pay in AUD here in Brisbane Australia.?
Take away: I'd be worried about that 14 degrees. Keep us informed! And congrats on the purchase.
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer?
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
Stan,
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I am also from the Bay Area (I am from the South Bay area).
you are 30-40 miles closer to the Sacramento area than me (~60 miles for you)
I did a local pickup for all of my Felder machine’s from Sacramento. I think it is better than pay for shipping, and risk your machine with freight companies.
You will need a 12ft trailer and pallet jack to unload the machine from the trailer.
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Be aware that if you try to move it yourself with a rented trailer or whatnot, many auto insurance companies will not cover anything on the trailer regarding accidents or damage.?? That's a very expensive risk, but it's up to you.?? That's why I hired a rigging company to deliver the machine and place the pallet into my garage.?
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Is anyone taking into account the 14 degrees incline or decline (I missed that detail?) of the driveway... That’s very steep! I would not want to operate a forklift with a load this big and heavy. And a pallet jack will be difficult if not impossible
without some serious winching/rigging planning.?
In Australia we would use a “Franna”, or articulated mobile crane designed to take heavy loads without outriggers.
While freight/cranes are relatively expensive here, I'm surprised at the kind of prices you guys face in the USA. Basically your quotes in USD are about what I pay in AUD here in Brisbane Australia.?
Take away: I'd be worried about that 14 degrees. Keep us informed! And congrats on the purchase.
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer?
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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Stan,
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I am also from the Bay Area (I am from the South Bay area).
you are 30-40 miles closer to the Sacramento area than me (~60 miles for you)
I did a local pickup for all of my Felder machine’s from Sacramento. I think it is better than pay for shipping, and risk your machine with freight companies.
You will need a 12ft trailer and pallet jack to unload the machine from the trailer.
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Stan,
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I am also from the Bay Area (I am from the South Bay area).
you are 30-40 miles closer to the Sacramento area than me (~60 miles for you)
I did a local pickup for all of my Felder machine’s from Sacramento. I think it is better than pay for shipping, and risk your machine with freight companies.
You will need a 12ft trailer and pallet jack to unload the machine from the trailer.
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Yeah the crates are too large/heavy for a liftgate and the driveway is too kinky for a pallet jack. Forklift seems to be the easiest option...
On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 19:35, Karl via groups.io <
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Congratulations,
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It should arrive on a lift gate service, all you need is a narrow pallet jack and its easy to remove from the crate. Make sure to fully inspect the slider box, as its the one that freight companies seem to be incapbable of dealing with.
This YouTube channel has some good videos about what to expect for the delivery and some time-lapse for setup -
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Other than that just make sure to set asside some time to dial it in, leveling the slider can be frustrating with the back and forth, but once its in, everything else is easy in comparison.
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-Karl
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
I would hesitate to have a lift-gate delivery a machine this big.?? The Felder warehouse won't even ship these size machines on a lift-gate truck anymore.?? The danger and risk of machine damage during unloading is too high.?
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If you want to try moving it yourself, I would look into renting a drop-deck trailer (sometimes described as a lift-bed trailer).? Sunbelt has these available.? Then you can just use a pallet jack to roll it off the trailer.
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
A little late to the reply party there haha, yeah with a 14% grade, definatley a forklift would be ideal. As it sounds like your getting comfortable with potentially operating one, check out your local Home Depot, some have 5,000lb forklifts available for rental, otherwise can deliver, simmilar to Sunbet and others. A few hundred $ for piece of mind. If its a straight shot I would probably just use some OSB on the drive way and winch it down on a pallet jack, but just another option haha!
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What’s wrong with my Thicknesser?
  AD531 model thicknesser and jointer combo. Has a loud rumbling sound that causes heavy vibration.? initially assumed it was the friction wheel and/or something to do with the rollers but have ruled this out. Inspected the wheel and the sound still happens with rollers disengaged.?
videos for reference?
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Congratulations,
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It should arrive on a lift gate service, all you need is a narrow pallet jack and its easy to remove from the crate. Make sure to fully inspect the slider box, as its the one that freight companies seem to be incapbable of dealing with.
This YouTube channel has some good videos about what to expect for the delivery and some time-lapse for setup -
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Other than that just make sure to set asside some time to dial it in, leveling the slider can be frustrating with the back and forth, but once its in, everything else is easy in comparison.
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-Karl
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Yes, seeing Steve's Minimax within the confines of his garage was what nudged me towards a short stroke.
The freight company is supposed to bring the crates by my house but they want me to unload them myself. Hence the forklift requirement. I made peace with the idea of learning to operate a forklift. My driveway is short but at a 14% angle. Alternatively I could get it parked at the Sacramento warehouse and then pick it up with a railgate truck. What I haven't figured out yet is whether I can unload a railgate whilr parked on a slope.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 16:47, Aaron Inami < ainami@...> wrote:
Hey Stan,
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I am actually in Tracy, CA.?? I also didn't know you came out to visit my buddy, Steve, to look at his Minimax here in Tracy.?? Both of us have agreed to help you out in any fashion.?
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That being said, if your KF700 is being shipped to the Sacramento Felder warehouse, you might want to consider a rigging company to bring the machine down.? I used Lawson Drayage in Sacramento.?? They are well known by that Felder location.?? I think it will likely be something like $1700, but they will bring the machine down on a flat-bed and fork-lift.?? They will put the pallet down on your driveway or just inside the garage.? You would have to make sure your driveway will support the forklift weight (likely around 10,000 lbs). Here's their contact info:
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Otherwise, Steve can drive a forklift if you arrange for the rental/delivery/pickup of the forklift itself.
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I do have a 20" pallet jack and a ramp that can be used to take the machine off the pallet and place it.? I do also have a set of leveling feet I can sell for about $30.? It's the 10mm bolt (which is the largest that will fit on the KF700 holes):
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On my machine, I purchased the 1/2" leveling feet because I wanted a beefier foot with wider base.? I had to drill out the base holes to 1/2" for this.? These are the parts I ended up with:
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California garage floors will all be sloped and uneven.?? If you buy your own leveling feet, make sure they have rubber bottoms.? The steel bottoms will just slide around on the concrete just by nudging the saw.
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection
Hey Stan,
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I am actually in Tracy, CA.?? I also didn't know you came out to visit my buddy, Steve, to look at his Minimax here in Tracy.?? Both of us have agreed to help you out in any fashion.?
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That being said, if your KF700 is being shipped to the Sacramento Felder warehouse, you might want to consider a rigging company to bring the machine down.? I used Lawson Drayage in Sacramento.?? They are well known by that Felder location.?? I think it will likely be something like $1700, but they will bring the machine down on a flat-bed and fork-lift.?? They will put the pallet down on your driveway or just inside the garage.? You would have to make sure your driveway will support the forklift weight (likely around 10,000 lbs). Here's their contact info:
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Otherwise, Steve can drive a forklift if you arrange for the rental/delivery/pickup of the forklift itself.
?
I do have a 20" pallet jack and a ramp that can be used to take the machine off the pallet and place it.? I do also have a set of leveling feet I can sell for about $30.? It's the 10mm bolt (which is the largest that will fit on the KF700 holes):
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On my machine, I purchased the 1/2" leveling feet because I wanted a beefier foot with wider base.? I had to drill out the base holes to 1/2" for this.? These are the parts I ended up with:
?
California garage floors will all be sloped and uneven.?? If you buy your own leveling feet, make sure they have rubber bottoms.? The steel bottoms will just slide around on the concrete just by nudging the saw.
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-Aaron Inami
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