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Re: DRO on a shaper fence?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi David,Yes the micro-adjust is tightened and so are the fence plates. The hood is machined perfectly, allowing no perceptible movement. Thanks to this discussion, I measured the play in the micro-adjust and it is ~0.005¡± (video attached). This multiplies over 26 inches, the way I have the fence plates right now, for a router bit. This will get worse with a larger shaper cutter. This has been my concern over the utility of adding a DRO. Because of this, I always check squareness, using Lamb Tool¡¯s big triangle, if using the xcut fence. Imran Malik IAM Wood Creations On Mar 23, 2025, at 12:01?PM, David P. Best via groups.io <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
?Imran, some amount of sloppy hood registration as shown in your video is normal for that Shaper Fence 230. The alignment plate that registers the fence to the cast iron top has two pins that mate with holes in the top (p 117 is Survival Guide), and that interface is non-precision and has play in it. ?The mounting plate to hood connection is also non-precision. ?Have you checked to ensure the mounting plate to shaper hood attachment is solid and that the micro-adjust is locked and secured with the Kipp lever? ? Adding a DRO to the shaper hood is not going to improve repeatability and eliminate the need to take test cuts unless the sloppiness of the mounting platform is resolved as part of the DRO mechanical structure. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Mar 23, 2025, at 8:24?AM, imran via groups.io <imranwoodshop@...> wrote:
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Re: Options for sheet good support on K700s
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýA pair of clamps will do wonders to improve accuracy in breaking down panels on the slider.?David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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Re: Thoughts on Automatic Dovetailers?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPK, consider yourself lucky if you haven¡¯t been infected with the disease of high horology collecting. ?I had an Ultra 2 for a while but found myself constantly looking at it to see if I still had a pulse. ?When you get to my age, you¡¯ll understand. ?LOLDavid Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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Re: Options for sheet good support on K700s
Hi Kamal,?
Yes, those first cuts are the most important, and ensuring the material is snug against the crosscut fence is key to this. Something i should have pointed out is that on those first cuts, i typically have the slider lock engaged so i can push the material hard against the crosscut fence before unlocking the table to make the cut.
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Re: DRO on a shaper fence?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýImran, some amount of sloppy hood registration as shown in your video is normal for that Shaper Fence 230. The alignment plate that registers the fence to the cast iron top has two pins that mate with holes in the top (p 117 is Survival Guide), and that interface is non-precision and has play in it. ?The mounting plate to hood connection is also non-precision. ?Have you checked to ensure the mounting plate to shaper hood attachment is solid and that the micro-adjust is locked and secured with the Kipp lever? ? Adding a DRO to the shaper hood is not going to improve repeatability and eliminate the need to take test cuts unless the sloppiness of the mounting platform is resolved as part of the DRO mechanical structure. ?David Best - via mobile phone? On Mar 23, 2025, at 8:24?AM, imran via groups.io <imranwoodshop@...> wrote:
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Re: DRO on a shaper fence?
I'm a little confused Imran,
Obviously you haven't got the hood tightened up at that point in the video you show. I will have to pop the hood on the shaper this morning when i get to work and see if i can make it do the same. If this is play in the locating pin, then you're right, the DRO won't be accurate. If it's just play in the hood itself prior to being tightened, then the DRO should still be accurate.?
As always, test first then run your material.?
I'll let you know when i get to work.
Bryce
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Re: DRO on a shaper fence?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Brett and Bryce, The play I am talking about is in the hood. As I mentioned, it would not show on the microadjust or on the DRO placed therein but it could affect the cut. I am not concerned about removing and replacing the hood either. As stated earlier, I push the hood back before securing the hood but since it has this play (video attached) I am not sure if it goes back to the exact same spot every time I secure the hood. Obviously, one has to loosen the hood to make any adjustment to the fence. Maybe it will irritate me that DRO has not improved the overall situation much. I will still be relying on the test cuts as before. What I really I like to know if this play is normal. Imran Malik IAM Wood Creations On Mar 23, 2025, at 1:30?AM, Bryce Comer via groups.io <bryce@...> wrote:
? I haven't noticed an issue like you have described Imran. As Brett said, always good to go slightly past, then come back to the measurement you're after. I guess there could be some creep when tightening down the hood, but it should show on the DRO if that was the case, and i haven't yet seen that on mine.
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Re: Digital Read Out instructions¡.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýColum, could you elaborate more on what you are doing and seeing? ?Feel free to DM me with details. A video would be helpful.?David Best - via mobile phone? On Mar 23, 2025, at 7:02?AM, Colum via groups.io <colum@...> wrote:
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Re: New Dual51 and Felder owner
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓývladscservice, What is your name? I sent you schematic 90 mins ago in response to your private message. Did you not get it? Imran Malik IAM Wood Creations On Mar 23, 2025, at 9:45?AM, vladscservice via groups.io <vladscservice@...> wrote:
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Re: DRO on a shaper fence?
I haven't noticed an issue like you have described Imran. As Brett said, always good to go slightly past, then come back to the measurement you're after. I guess there could be some creep when tightening down the hood, but it should show on the DRO if that was the case, and i haven't yet seen that on mine.
Regards,
Bryce --
https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw |
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