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Re: pedestal base help

 

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Hi Jason, funny you should ask no not a spoon maker in the early days. I did make a hell of a lot of cutting boards out of out of yellow birch shotgun blanks used to buy for $.10 apiece from a fish pole factory that made handle out of them ,
beautiful stuff. I still have the cutting boards we use today.
My my sweetheart, Nancy was the spoon maker back in the early days in the 70s. She used to do the Renaissance fairs in the north and the south of California and her sister was a seamstress so some of the spoons picture are of her work and I think the balance of them are from a spoon maker in the lower Peloponnesus on the outside border of the small village in Ladagia Greece my wife¡¯s ancestral Village.
Mac,,,

martin/campshureco/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

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On Dec 20, 2024, at 7:20?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Hi Jason,

This would be a fun project. KRP described the basic plan. The only thought I have is whether it would help align things better if you glued the staves in qtr circles before gluing them together. This assumes that the number of total staves are a multiple of 4.

The 4 qtr should have 90 deg edges which can be trued with a simple jig given your dimensions. This should allow minor adjustments and should make the final glueup less stressful.

Just my $0.02

Imran Malik

On Dec 20, 2024, at 8:01?AM, Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...> wrote:

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Nice work Mac,
Did you carve all the spoons too? I enjoy making spoons, but my wrists and elbows do not like me doing so. Small doses it's okay.
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Saw a video on IG yesterday of guy doing bent laminations of veneers over a PVC pipe. That would be another potential way? to make scalloped staves and not have the coving operation. I could just make a slider jig to hold them for taper/beveling. Probably even more work that way though...
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Apologies to the group

 

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Hey Bon,
You hit the nail on the head. There are lots of ideas out there and as far as I¡¯m concerned, they¡¯re all good.
Mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Dec 20, 2024, at 7:34?AM, Bon May via groups.io <bonmay1@...> wrote:

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Bryce I don't know what you have to apologize for.
As far as I know, anyone explaining, clarifying, or demonstrating the capabilities and features of Felder machines on this site is doing what the site is intended to do.
Just because you have shown how to use something that others want to complain about is nothing wrong, it actually might help someone who is interested in a Felder machine but might be turned away because they have heard there is an issue for some that isn't for others.
I appreciated your video.
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Bon
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Re: Apologies to the group

 

Bryce I don't know what you have to apologize for.
As far as I know, anyone explaining, clarifying, or demonstrating the capabilities and features of Felder machines on this site is doing what the site is intended to do.
Just because you have shown how to use something that others want to complain about is nothing wrong, it actually might help someone who is interested in a Felder machine but might be turned away because they have heard there is an issue for some that isn't for others.
I appreciated your video.
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Bon
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Re: pedestal base help

 

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Hi Jason,

This would be a fun project. KRP described the basic plan. The only thought I have is whether it would help align things better if you glued the staves in qtr circles before gluing them together. This assumes that the number of total staves are a multiple of 4.

The 4 qtr should have 90 deg edges which can be trued with a simple jig given your dimensions. This should allow minor adjustments and should make the final glueup less stressful.

Just my $0.02

Imran Malik

On Dec 20, 2024, at 8:01?AM, Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...> wrote:

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Nice work Mac,
Did you carve all the spoons too? I enjoy making spoons, but my wrists and elbows do not like me doing so. Small doses it's okay.
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Saw a video on IG yesterday of guy doing bent laminations of veneers over a PVC pipe. That would be another potential way? to make scalloped staves and not have the coving operation. I could just make a slider jig to hold them for taper/beveling. Probably even more work that way though...
--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: pedestal base help

 

Nice work Mac,
Did you carve all the spoons too? I enjoy making spoons, but my wrists and elbows do not like me doing so. Small doses it's okay.
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Saw a video on IG yesterday of guy doing bent laminations of veneers over a PVC pipe. That would be another potential way? to make scalloped staves and not have the coving operation. I could just make a slider jig to hold them for taper/beveling. Probably even more work that way though...
--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: 160 mm dust collection ducting in the USA

 

I'm also going to suggest going with 7" ducting. I couldn't afford to spend the money on the quick connect stuff, but find the spiral wound duct to be not only very resonably priced, but super easy to put up. When i changed all the ductwork to use an RL200, i went with 8" spiral wound main runs eventually reducing to 6 and 5". In all i had 50' of 8", 30' of 6" the same of 5" plus all the wye's etc. Everything is screwed together with self tapping screws and the joints are also taped. It took me roughly 6 to 8 hours to do by myself and I am very happy with the performance of the whole system.?
Regards,
Bryce
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Re: Apologies to the group

 

Was a good video Bryce, don't think you have anything to apologize for.
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-Karl


Apologies to the group

 

Hi all,
I recently posted here with a link to a video i made about my experiences with the short crosscut fence. If it sounded like i was in any way being critical of the group, or trivializing the issue with the fence, i sincerly apologize. My intention was to offer help to those out there that are having difficulties in getting the fence to go back on in the same position each time nothing more.
Regards,
Bryce
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw


Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

As Tom said, Acme is a solid choice.
If you have the time , google it and look for a deal.
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Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

Hi Alex,?
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Acme Tools has a few Mirka Deos options, including the smaller pad being mentioned above: ?
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Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
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Re: pedestal base help

 

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Jason, kind of in the same vein these are some spoon holders that were made from leftovers from longer cylinders I used tapered tongue, and groove cutters with tilting shaper I also made some tapered cylinders for drum bodies. This one is White oak scoop Chesil carved. I was trained by a porcupine.
Mac,,

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martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Dec 19, 2024, at 7:21?AM, Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...> wrote:

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Thanks Steven,
Yes a circle is certainly easier than an ellipse! No metal band around this top. It will be solid, customer picked the planks already. I am not concerned about sag, I was just thinking that spreading the load out with some outriggers might help if it's concentrated in an 18" or so circle in the center. Similar concept as the spider on commercial metal base tops.
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: pedestal base help

 

Thanks Steven,
Yes a circle is certainly easier than an ellipse! No metal band around this top. It will be solid, customer picked the planks already. I am not concerned about sag, I was just thinking that spreading the load out with some outriggers might help if it's concentrated in an 18" or so circle in the center. Similar concept as the spider on commercial metal base tops.
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep

 

just checked zoro and they don't seem to carry DEOS lineup only older ones.? Do you have a link to the deos model?


Re: pedestal base help

 

Thanks for sharing, Mac.
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Jason,
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My approach would be to model this part up on the computer to figure out all of the jigging and fixtures. A circle will be far less headaches than an ellipse. Building in sections and then fitting all together seems like a manageable approach.
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Re: additional support in the long dimension. Are you concerned that it might sag on the long ends over time?
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I like the hollow torsion box idea to shave some weight and movement, especially with the metal band around it.
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Steve


Re: How to connect a 400-800 Morticing unit to a Felder BF5-31

 

Many thanks Jonathan. Hopefully Felder will still have some that fit my machine, I'll contact them now.
Davide


Re: pedestal base help

 

Hey Jason

Looks like a really cool project. It seems like a balancing act between the width of the cove and the roundness of the overall base. ?

I thought that one way that I might approach this would be a 4th axis on my cnc with indexing like a lathe for the coves.? Or failing that a jig to hold and turn the cylinder for the coves with pins in the bottom of the base to hold the piece in place.? If the base were really wide you could do it in pieces and assemble after.?

Another way I thought of would be to power carve it, but that might be too rustic for your client.?

Cutting the coves first on a shaper as well. But then you are left with less of a circle depending on how wide the coves are, right?? Barrel staves are pretty thin usually.?

I¡¯m really interested to see how you complete this project!?

Andy ??

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 8:58?PM Jason Holtz via <jholtzy=[email protected]> wrote:
Mac,?
Looks like Steven likes round stuff, but I don't see much that would be applicable. Thanks though!
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture


Re: pedestal base help

 

Mac,?
Looks like Steven likes round stuff, but I don't see much that would be applicable. Thanks though!
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: pedestal base help

 

Thanks for all the responses so far. PR? I think you are on to something there doing all the coving first on rectangular staves, then taper/bevel in one operation on the slider. I've done a number of coopered stave things in the past but never a complete barrel, and definitely not a tapered one. I've assembled a few staves at a time where clamps still work okay, then used Dominos for alignment to put sections together. Sometimes band clamps come in handy for that sort of thing.
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Jonathan, so if it weighs a ton you think I'm fine with the 24" diameter? I'd love to avoid the headache of the ellipse angles.
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Mac, who's Steve??
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My top will have no metal band around it. That's just asking for trouble.
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


K700S Table saw for sale

 

Hi, don't mean to spam the group, but we are selling our table saw in case anyone is interested:
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Feel free to reach out if you have any questions, but basically it's in good shape.? We are selling because it's a student shop and it just made sense to switch to a SawStop for safety purposes.?
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-Trevor


Short crosscut fence inaccurate?

 

Hi All,
Just thought i would make a little video for those who have the short crosscut fence but are having difficulties with its accuracy. I don't have the issues that others have talked about, so thought i would show others how i go about putting the fence on and what i do to try to ensure repeatability when installing it. As i explain in the video, i don't really understand how the fence could not go back on in the same position each time so i hope this will help some users out.?
Regards,
Bryce
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw