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Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

I went through the same evolution. The tape trick on the rip fence really works.

I do miss the ability to quickly and accurately rip with a rip fence, but have learned to rip with the slider. It just takes a little more time to set up a cut. ?Using the rip fence to align stock for ripping works pretty well if your stock is wide enough to clamp to the table. Otherwise use parallel fences like the one Lamb Tool Works sells. A Fritz and Fanz jig helps rip pieces that are fairly short (say 2 feet or less), but I have not gotten comfortable using mine for longer pieces.

if you have not done so, add DRO to your outrigger fence and to your rip fence. Those upgrades will make many operations easier.

Overall the change from a cabinet saw to a slider has been positive. So positive, in fact, that I am upgrading from a K700S to a Kappa 450X. That saw is on a boat transiting the Panama Canal right now.

John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941

Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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Name please. ?Best advice…use the slider for almost everything…the riip fence should be a seldom used item. ?Terry

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On Oct 25, 2024, at 11:46 PM, Jonathan Maloney <jonathanmaloney123@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone?

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I just joined the forum and there is so much helpful info, thanks everyone!

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I just got my k700s 2 weeks ago and would like some advice on ripping. My saw was setup by a Felder tech and he gave the rip fence a toe out. I don’t like when I use it as a bump stop and I find ripping harder than on my old cabinet saw.?

Any advice or tips on the rip fence and ripping would be greatly appreciated.?

I read the post about adding tape to the rip fence when using it as a stop. I think David Best wrote it. I have not tried it yet, but I will

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thanks for taking the time to read my post?

Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s

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Hi Everyone?

I just joined the forum and there is so much helpful info, thanks everyone!

I just got my k700s 2 weeks ago and would like some advice on ripping. My saw was setup by a Felder tech and he gave the rip fence a toe out. I don’t like when I use it as a bump stop and I find ripping harder than on my old cabinet saw.?

Any advice or tips on the rip fence and ripping would be greatly appreciated.?

I read the post about adding tape to the rip fence when using it as a stop. I think David Best wrote it. I have not tried it yet, but I will

thanks for taking the time to read my post?

Re: Drum sanders

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Ordered one.... came today. Just unpacked it but haven't run it as yet. Looks like a nice machine! Thanks for pointer on that again. CWI folks were easy to work with as well.

-Bob

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On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 3:42?PM Bob Wise <bob@...> wrote:

Thanks for the pointer to the CWI/sandx brand. The 26" wide version of the dual drum looks decent at a price quite a bit below the powermatic.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 12:24?PM PK via <pk=[email protected]> wrote:
Mariusz,

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I have had all three that people are talking about and my brother has the open end wide belt from Powermatic.

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I started with a Performax 22-44.? It worked well.? It is slow and the electronics to modulate the belt speed failed once.? We decided to re-engineer the controller, as it seemed pretty fragile electrically.

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I then bought a Sand-X 37" dual drum sander from CWI in Canada.? This is sold under many brands with slight differences.? Powermatic sells it, but decided to put the drive belts in the sanding envelope, CWI puts the belts in an enclosure outside the sanding envelope.? This machine has far more power and is significantly faster than the open end drum sanders.? These models come with rubber drums to manage heat better, offer better sandpaper connection and solid dust collection.? They also do not have an electronic system to slow the infeed roller motor.? There is no circuit board to fry, but if you are not careful, you can burn a belt pretty badly.? I really liked it, shipping was cheap and the support was good.? Powermatic also sells it in the version Bob is looking at, a dual drum 25".? It is the same machine with less width to the sander.? The scratch pattern is the same as a Performax or any other open end drum sander that does not oscillate.

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My brother found the open ended Powermatic 16" sander used and in great condition.? It is the same as the NorthState that David was talking about earlier.? He too likes it and uses it in a production fashion.? The scratch pattern is better because the belt oscillates.

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I then found a great deal on a used? 37" wide belt.? I realize that there are huge upgrades to dust collection and power to accommodate them, but a wide belt is just next level with finish quality and precision.

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For you, I would find a Powermatic clone open end wide belt (used, they do come up) or a double drum like Bob is talking about.

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Re: New Owner of K700S

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Hi Dennis,

Congratulations on your purchase. ?I'm sure once you have adjusted to the different ways you use a slider vs the traditional cabinet saw, you will find it a joy to use.

As for getting it off the pallet, many build a ramp and use a narrow pallet jack to move the saw. ?The saw is designed to accept a narrow pallet Jack from either end of the saw. ?You should be able to rent one. ?However, if you need to move the saw in the future, you might consider purchasing one. ?They are very handy around the shop.

Have a great weekend,

Alex B.

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On 10/25/2024 5:38 PM PDT Denno <dennis@...> wrote:

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Hi all, I just wanted to introduce myself to this group. I live in North Central Arizona, am retired after decades of software development, and have done many wood and some metal projects over the years.

Anyway, I just completed the order of a new K700S which will be my first slider, and I am so looking forward to receiving it. It was in stock and under Felder's November promotions, so I expect to receive it within a couple of weeks at the latest.

I know it is more than what I really need - but is there really anything that is "overkill" when you love high quality machinery? I have been accused of that more than once :-)

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I will be selling my Sawstop ICS which has been a great saw - but this new 700 I think will be my dream machine.

I couldn't get the Felder overhead guard/dust collection hood due to out-of-stock conditions and shipping costs on a separate order so I will look into either the Harvey model hood or possibly making my own.

Another item I will probably make on my own is the outrigger carrier - that will be a great accessory for the times I don't need the outrigger.

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After looking into a slider for months, I think my near future purchases or projects will be one of the F&F jigs and, since I am only an hour North of Phoenix, checking out Lamb Toolworks for parallel cutting accessories etc. It looks like Brian has some really nice stuff.

I am also thanking David Best ahead of time for his video on how to setup the slider for the most accurate cuts - what a great video he did to help out on that - many thanks to him.

I will also be researching some more on the best way to just get the saw off the pallet and positioned in the shop. No small chore, I fear.

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Well, I just wanted to say I'm grateful for this forum and all of its information.?

I welcome any advice and help from anyone and look forward to contributing any information I can offer as I go through my learning experience with this fine piece of equipment.

Many Thanks

Dennis

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New Owner of K700S

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Hi all, I just wanted to introduce myself to this group. I live in North Central Arizona, am retired after decades of software development, and have done many wood and some metal projects over the years.

Anyway, I just completed the order of a new K700S which will be my first slider, and I am so looking forward to receiving it. It was in stock and under Felder's November promotions, so I expect to receive it within a couple of weeks at the latest.

I know it is more than what I really need - but is there really anything that is "overkill" when you love high quality machinery? I have been accused of that more than once :-)

I will be selling my Sawstop ICS which has been a great saw - but this new 700 I think will be my dream machine.

I couldn't get the Felder overhead guard/dust collection hood due to out-of-stock conditions and shipping costs on a separate order so I will look into either the Harvey model hood or possibly making my own.

Another item I will probably make on my own is the outrigger carrier - that will be a great accessory for the times I don't need the outrigger.

After looking into a slider for months, I think my near future purchases or projects will be one of the F&F jigs and, since I am only an hour North of Phoenix, checking out Lamb Toolworks for parallel cutting accessories etc. It looks like Brian has some really nice stuff.

I am also thanking David Best ahead of time for his video on how to setup the slider for the most accurate cuts - what a great video he did to help out on that - many thanks to him.

I will also be researching some more on the best way to just get the saw off the pallet and positioned in the shop. No small chore, I fear.

Well, I just wanted to say I'm grateful for this forum and all of its information.?

I welcome any advice and help from anyone and look forward to contributing any information I can offer as I go through my learning experience with this fine piece of equipment.

Many Thanks

Dennis

Re: AD 531 Jointer/Planer

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Hi James, the AD531 has either a 3 or 4 Kw motor, depending upon what you purchased.

The 20 ampere circuit is fine for the 3Kw motor, if you have the 4 Kw motor I would recommend trying it on the 20A circuit, if it starts fine it will run fine.

If not install a 30 ampere circuit.

Regards, Rod.

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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How much do you want for the F&F?

I am also from the south Bay Area.?

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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Gotcha, thanks guys! I could likely make a t-nut to work this it but the sliders are likely too big judging from the pics on David’s page.?

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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Not sure if the thread size is same but this document shows slider nut dimensions for Hammer, Felder and Foramt 4

Imran Malik

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of David P. Best via groups.io
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Subject: Re: [FOG] A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

I reviewed this product previously at the following link. ?Perhaps this would help you understand its function and if it fits the t-slot of the Hammer slider. ?The Kappa 550 version is longer and has different slot positions because the sliding table on that machine is wider and has two t-slots.

David Best
DBestWorkshop@...

On Oct 24, 2024, at 7:52?AM, david via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
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Someone on this group surely knows better than i do, but it comes in two variants… one for Kappa machines, and one for X-Roll machines, which I believe are fitted on some hammer models.

Hammer-Felder-Format4 Slider Nut Sizes.JPG

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best

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On Oct 24, 2024, at 7:52?AM, david via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

Someone on this group surely knows better than i do, but it comes in two variants… one for Kappa machines, and one for X-Roll machines, which I believe are fitted on some hammer models.

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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Someone on this group surely knows better than i do, but it comes in two variants… one for Kappa machines, and one for X-Roll machines, which I believe are fitted on some hammer models.

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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Any idea if the Fritz and Franz fits a Hammer? I’m just down in Carmel, could drive up and pick it up.?

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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Any of the x-roll machines from 2003 onwards.

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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Email sent on outrigger transport

Re: A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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What year of K700S is the Frits and Franz Fixture for?

A lot of stuff for sale #casters #forsale #k700s #ad741

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Hello everyone,

I have a full mortising setup for the AD741, a full mobility carriage w/bar, the outrigger transport thingie, and felder's fritz and Franz - the sawing and clamping jig.

All of these items are new in boxes.

I am located in the south San Francisco Bay Area.

I would sell any of these items at 60% of the current sale prices. No idea how to handle the shipping of some of the larger pieces however. ?Any suggestions would be appreciated!

I'm glad to be amongst you all!

-David

Re: sliding table saw: parallel fence vs 2nd crosscut fence? #k700s

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I have found that 3 points of fixing of the short cross cut fence provides perfect stability, even when heavy tenoning on the spindle moulder.? And even with Felder's "sloppy" work.

Here I show my short fence afixed to 4"x2"x1/4" aluminium angle and bolted to the slider at 3 points.

The short fence used for tenoning on the moulder is mounted to 70mm x 30mm x 20mm aluminium plate and this too is afixed at 3 points to the slider.? The plate is drilled and tapped to take air clamps.

And for parallel cutting, I use neither fixed fence but x2 parallel fences, which I would not be without.

Phil

Re: 3d models for shop layout

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The detailed drawings are not well organized or presented, and is missing some information . I recently was checking that I could actually get my new Kappa 450X into my shop, and had to contact Felder to get the missing information. I am fairly certain that some of the information they gave me is incorrect.

John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941

Re: 3d models for shop layout

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Have you considered sending this to the Felder “wish list” portal?

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On Oct 20, 2024, at 6:04?AM, David via groups.io <david.hawxhurst@...> wrote:

Kerry, Brett

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These ideas will work for lay out ideas. While a proper 3d model would make it over the top for space and work flow guess it is not really needed.

Maybe someday Felder will release models for this purpose. We don't need the super detailed info that they have. Just the basic dimension and slide movement for sliders.

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