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Re: Selling full shop of 3 phase Felder Equipment

 

I'm very interested in your ducting!


Re: Machining aluminum question

 

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Sorry, I misunderstood your question. ? A handheld router is not a substitute for a mill simply because you can’t slow it down enough, control the tool path, or keep the part cool. ?I do use a handheld router in a fixture specifically designed for chamfering and deburring the corners of parts (details here: ?https://flic.kr/s/aHsmCSkwqP ), but I wouldn’t attempt much else with a handheld router or than round-over and chamfering. ?I have successfully cut aluminum plate on my Felder sliding table saw, but it requires tremendous care and constant retraction and cooling, otherwise the off-cut chips will weld to the saw blade tips.

If you think diving into a Tormach CNC mill is a way to skip over the knowledge required to be successful as a manual machinist - think again. ? IMO, the knowledge and expertise required to be successful with a Tormach is a superset (not subset) of what you need to know to run a manual mill. ?You still need ?the same metallurgy knowledge and a lot more. ?Since you like 3D printers, you might explore building a Voron Cascade (https://www.reddit.com/r/VORONDesign/comments/1cenzzr/new_voron_model_cascade_cnc_machine/) or RatRig Minimill (https://ratrig.com/cnc-kits/mini-mill-configurable.html) instead of getting a Tormach. ?

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On Jun 1, 2024, at 4:15?PM, Chad75 via groups.io <shouldercords@...> wrote:

David, it looks like your using a proper mill, but I'm using wood working tools. I'm not so concerned with the bits ability to cut the material as I am the safety concern of machining using a profile bit with a router used for wood. I was always a "let her rip" kind of person until i lost half a finger, but now I always like to ask people with more experience before I try something new. I'd love to have the skills to run a proper mill. I've been thinking about getting a small Tormach, but I'm still on the fence. I don't have the time to learn to use a manual mill, but I'm good with cad software, and I'm certain I could learn cam relatively fast. I'm holding off because I'm sure there's more involved than learning software. I got a 3d printer and found I probably enjoy designing new tools more than I do using the tools to build things. ? ?


Re: KF700SP Cross cut swing parallel to slider?

 

Hey thanks for the info guys! I think just taking it off and keeping it on the slider.
Chris


Re: #forsale #hammer #forsale #hammer

 

The post includes the dimensions. It say it’s 2000mm by 1250mm.

A google search will tell you that is roughly 79x48

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 8:12?PM stevensivak via <stevensivak=[email protected]> wrote:
Which of the three current models is this one?
79x48
48x48
31x31


Steven Sivak

On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:43?PM, Matt <matt@...> wrote:

I'm selling my K3 Winner that was built in 2017.? 1P 220V, 3KW.

2000mm Slider
1250mm cutting width
Dado set - 8mm to 19.5mm
Scoring blade
250mm Universal blade
800mm Outfeed table
Rolling carriage (lifting bar not included)
Analogue blade angle dial
Outrigger Miter Index system
Extra miter fence (900mm) and guide (2017 version)

Asking $5,200
Located near Chicago

<K3 Winner - Slider.jpg><K3 Winner - Outfeed.jpg><K3 Winner - Infeed.jpg><K3 Winner - Dado.jpg><K3 Winner - Back.jpg><K3 Winner - 250mm Blade.jpg>


Re: #forsale #hammer #forsale #hammer

stevensivak
 

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Which of the three current models is this one?
79x48
48x48
31x31


Steven Sivak

On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:43?PM, Matt <matt@...> wrote:

I'm selling my K3 Winner that was built in 2017.? 1P 220V, 3KW.

2000mm Slider
1250mm cutting width
Dado set - 8mm to 19.5mm
Scoring blade
250mm Universal blade
800mm Outfeed table
Rolling carriage (lifting bar not included)
Analogue blade angle dial
Outrigger Miter Index system
Extra miter fence (900mm) and guide (2017 version)

Asking $5,200
Located near Chicago

<K3 Winner - Slider.jpg><K3 Winner - Outfeed.jpg><K3 Winner - Infeed.jpg><K3 Winner - Dado.jpg><K3 Winner - Back.jpg><K3 Winner - 250mm Blade.jpg>


#forsale #hammer #forsale #hammer

 

I'm selling my K3 Winner that was built in 2017.? 1P 220V, 3KW.

2000mm Slider
1250mm cutting width
Dado set - 8mm to 19.5mm
Scoring blade
250mm Universal blade
800mm Outfeed table
Rolling carriage (lifting bar not included)
Analogue blade angle dial
Outrigger Miter Index system
Extra miter fence (900mm) and guide (2017 version)

Asking $5,200
Located near Chicago


Re: Machining aluminum question

 

David, it looks like your using a proper mill, but I'm using wood working tools. I'm not so concerned with the bits ability to cut the material as I am the safety concern of machining using a profile bit with a router used for wood. I was always a "let her rip" kind of person until i lost half a finger, but now I always like to ask people with more experience before I try something new. I'd love to have the skills to run a proper mill. I've been thinking about getting a small Tormach, but I'm still on the fence. I don't have the time to learn to use a manual mill, but I'm good with cad software, and I'm certain I could learn cam relatively fast. I'm holding off because I'm sure there's more involved than learning software. I got a 3d printer and found I probably enjoy designing new tools more than I do using the tools to build things. ? ?


Re: Selling full shop of 3 phase Felder Equipment

 

I’m interested in the rl160. Can you post some photos and the price you are expecting.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 12:33?PM Matt Keim via <matthewkeim=[email protected]> wrote:
I am getting ready to move and am downsizing my shop.? I am hoping to find a buyer that wants to buy all the 3 phase equipment, phase converter, Norfab ducting and 3 phase wiring.? Located in St Louis MO area.? Mac helped me purchase the Felder equipment in 2017.? It was all originally purchased in 2006/2007 but the buyer never opened his shop and everything was brand new and never assembled when I bought it.? I added a pneumatic clamp to the saw but never built a second. ? I am asking $21,000 for everything but will part out if I do not find a buyer.? I transported everything at once by renting a 26ft Ryder lift gate truck.

RL 160 Dust collector.? I added a VFD to this and run it off of single phase power.
FB 640 Bandsaw 5.5kw motor
KF 700s sliding table saw/shaper.? Power Drive on Shaper up/down 5.5kw motor, 4 blades and Felder dado cutter included.
AD 741 16” Jointer/Planer power drive raise/lower 5.5kw motor
Shen Shing SDM15 16” wide belt sander open end 7.5hp motor
Apex 20” disc sander?
large metal buffer/polisher.? Manufacturer unknown but industrial style buffer with 2 wire wheels on it.
Norfab ducting included will all connections and blast gates.? I spent about $3k on the ducting.
25 HP rotary phase converter, 3 phase breaker box, 3 phase twist lock receptacles for each machine, and electrical wiring if you want it.

Matt Keim


Re: Selling full shop of 3 phase Felder Equipment

 

Very interested in the jointer / planer. Possibly interested in more but I for sure need that.


B+


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 12:33?PM Matt Keim via <matthewkeim=[email protected]> wrote:
I am getting ready to move and am downsizing my shop.? I am hoping to find a buyer that wants to buy all the 3 phase equipment, phase converter, Norfab ducting and 3 phase wiring.? Located in St Louis MO area.? Mac helped me purchase the Felder equipment in 2017.? It was all originally purchased in 2006/2007 but the buyer never opened his shop and everything was brand new and never assembled when I bought it.? I added a pneumatic clamp to the saw but never built a second. ? I am asking $21,000 for everything but will part out if I do not find a buyer.? I transported everything at once by renting a 26ft Ryder lift gate truck.

RL 160 Dust collector.? I added a VFD to this and run it off of single phase power.
FB 640 Bandsaw 5.5kw motor
KF 700s sliding table saw/shaper.? Power Drive on Shaper up/down 5.5kw motor, 4 blades and Felder dado cutter included.
AD 741 16” Jointer/Planer power drive raise/lower 5.5kw motor
Shen Shing SDM15 16” wide belt sander open end 7.5hp motor
Apex 20” disc sander?
large metal buffer/polisher.? Manufacturer unknown but industrial style buffer with 2 wire wheels on it.
Norfab ducting included will all connections and blast gates.? I spent about $3k on the ducting.
25 HP rotary phase converter, 3 phase breaker box, 3 phase twist lock receptacles for each machine, and electrical wiring if you want it.

Matt Keim


Selling full shop of 3 phase Felder Equipment

 

I am getting ready to move and am downsizing my shop. ?I am hoping to find a buyer that wants to buy all the 3 phase equipment, phase converter, Norfab ducting and 3 phase wiring. ?Located in St Louis MO area. ?Mac helped me purchase the Felder equipment in 2017. ?It was all originally purchased in 2006/2007 but the buyer never opened his shop and everything was brand new and never assembled when I bought it. ?I added a pneumatic clamp to the saw but never built a second. ? I am asking $21,000 for everything but will part out if I do not find a buyer. ?I transported everything at once by renting a 26ft Ryder lift gate truck.

RL 160 Dust collector. ?I added a VFD to this and run it off of single phase power.
FB 640 Bandsaw 5.5kw motor
KF 700s sliding table saw/shaper. ?Power Drive on Shaper up/down 5.5kw motor, 4 blades and Felder dado cutter included.
AD 741 16” Jointer/Planer power drive raise/lower 5.5kw motor
Shen Shing SDM15 16” wide belt sander open end 7.5hp motor
Apex 20” disc sander?
large metal buffer/polisher. ?Manufacturer unknown but industrial style buffer with 2 wire wheels on it.
Norfab ducting included will all connections and blast gates. ?I spent about $3k on the ducting.
25 HP rotary phase converter, 3 phase breaker box, 3 phase twist lock receptacles for each machine, and electrical wiring if you want it.

Matt Keim


Re: Rip fence alignment

 

Mine is a banana on my k945s. Gave up on getting them to replace it, slide it back and forth to find a sweet spot and mark it


Re: Motor Replacement on BF6

 

I never cease to be amazed by the depth of knowledge and generosity of this community!

Thanks everybody for the information, and Philip specifically for the offer of the motor. Just sent you a message now.


Re: Machining aluminum question

 

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I use router bits often for milling operations. ?Here is a CMT carbide-tipped router bit cutting round-overs in 316 stainless steel. ?Aluminum is a piece of cake compared to this.

47844018491_bc171edf8f_c.jpeg


David Best
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best



On May 31, 2024, at 5:06?PM, Chad75 via groups.io <shouldercords@...> wrote:

I've never worked with metals before and want to see if anybody with machining experience can give me some advice. I machined a profile I need out of 1/2 inch aluminum and would like to knock the sharp edges off and chamfer the holes for a counter sink bolt. Can I use a counter sink wood bit for the holes and a small round over bit to fillet the edges? I machined it with a router, but I used a straight spiral carbide bit so I don't know how a profile bit will work out. If the round over bit will work I assume I'll still need to make very light passes. If it won't does anyone have a suggestion?? I attached a pic to see what I'm working with. Thanks!!


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Re: Machining aluminum question

 

Thanks, everyone.?


On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 10:02?PM Brian Lamb via <blamb11=[email protected]> wrote:
I run woodworking bits on aluminum all the time, have for years.

Brian Lamb


On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 07:39:12 PM MST, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:


I have limited experience as I used carbide bits (for wood) to make big squeeze clamp housings. If your wood tooling is carbide, I personally wouldn’t hesitate to try the 2 operations you described keeping the feed rate in check.

I however don’t have enough experience to tell you to go and do it ?

Imran Malik

On May 31, 2024, at 8:07?PM, Chad75 via <shouldercords=[email protected]> wrote:

?I've never worked with metals before and want to see if anybody with machining experience can give me some advice. I machined a profile I need out of 1/2 inch aluminum and would like to knock the sharp edges off and chamfer the holes for a counter sink bolt. Can I use a counter sink wood bit for the holes and a small round over bit to fillet the edges? I machined it with a router, but I used a straight spiral carbide bit so I don't know how a profile bit will work out. If the round over bit will work I assume I'll still need to make very light passes. If it won't does anyone have a suggestion?? I attached a pic to see what I'm working with. Thanks!!


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Re: Machining aluminum question

 

I run woodworking bits on aluminum all the time, have for years.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 07:39:12 PM MST, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:


I have limited experience as I used carbide bits (for wood) to make big squeeze clamp housings. If your wood tooling is carbide, I personally wouldn’t hesitate to try the 2 operations you described keeping the feed rate in check.

I however don’t have enough experience to tell you to go and do it ?

Imran Malik

On May 31, 2024, at 8:07?PM, Chad75 via groups.io <shouldercords@...> wrote:

?I've never worked with metals before and want to see if anybody with machining experience can give me some advice. I machined a profile I need out of 1/2 inch aluminum and would like to knock the sharp edges off and chamfer the holes for a counter sink bolt. Can I use a counter sink wood bit for the holes and a small round over bit to fillet the edges? I machined it with a router, but I used a straight spiral carbide bit so I don't know how a profile bit will work out. If the round over bit will work I assume I'll still need to make very light passes. If it won't does anyone have a suggestion?? I attached a pic to see what I'm working with. Thanks!!


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Re: Machining aluminum question

 

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I have limited experience as I used carbide bits (for wood) to make big squeeze clamp housings. If your wood tooling is carbide, I personally wouldn’t hesitate to try the 2 operations you described keeping the feed rate in check.

I however don’t have enough experience to tell you to go and do it ?

Imran Malik

On May 31, 2024, at 8:07?PM, Chad75 via groups.io <shouldercords@...> wrote:

?I've never worked with metals before and want to see if anybody with machining experience can give me some advice. I machined a profile I need out of 1/2 inch aluminum and would like to knock the sharp edges off and chamfer the holes for a counter sink bolt. Can I use a counter sink wood bit for the holes and a small round over bit to fillet the edges? I machined it with a router, but I used a straight spiral carbide bit so I don't know how a profile bit will work out. If the round over bit will work I assume I'll still need to make very light passes. If it won't does anyone have a suggestion?? I attached a pic to see what I'm working with. Thanks!!


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Re: Machining aluminum question

stevensivak
 

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My experience is that all tooling for wood works on aluminum just fine.
My opinion about the round over is to use a file or sanding block at 45 degrees.


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On May 31, 2024, at 8:06?PM, Chad75 <shouldercords@...> wrote:

I've never worked with metals before and want to see if anybody with machining experience can give me some advice. I machined a profile I need out of 1/2 inch aluminum and would like to knock the sharp edges off and chamfer the holes for a counter sink bolt. Can I use a counter sink wood bit for the holes and a small round over bit to fillet the edges? I machined it with a router, but I used a straight spiral carbide bit so I don't know how a profile bit will work out. If the round over bit will work I assume I'll still need to make very light passes. If it won't does anyone have a suggestion?? I attached a pic to see what I'm working with. Thanks!!


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Re: FB500 won’t start

 

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Have you measured the voltage between all the phases? That would be my first step.

Imran Malik

On May 31, 2024, at 10:02?PM, Bob Frizell via groups.io <bob.frizell@...> wrote:

?Used three weeks ago, all good
turned on today, nothing happened
switched plug, AD741 worked on it
then noticed that even tho not working the motor got hot
both blade and motor rotate by hand
Three phase
Any views?
Rgrds
Bob


FB500 won’t start

 

Used three weeks ago, all good
turned on today, nothing happened
switched plug, AD741 worked on it
then noticed that even tho not working the motor got hot
both blade and motor rotate by hand
Three phase
Any views?
Rgrds
Bob


Machining aluminum question

 

I've never worked with metals before and want to see if anybody with machining experience can give me some advice. I machined a profile I need out of 1/2 inch aluminum and would like to knock the sharp edges off and chamfer the holes for a counter sink bolt. Can I use a counter sink wood bit for the holes and a small round over bit to fillet the edges? I machined it with a router, but I used a straight spiral carbide bit so I don't know how a profile bit will work out. If the round over bit will work I assume I'll still need to make very light passes. If it won't does anyone have a suggestion?? I attached a pic to see what I'm working with. Thanks!!


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