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Re: CMT Orange 8" Locked Dado Pro Blade Set
Looks like it would be about $275US for the set shipped to USA. ?Sure would be nice to have a metric set of dados and shims to fit a Felder. I¡¯m awaiting a response from Ridge Carbide to see if they would drill the pin holes in the dado set and shims. ?I may check around with some other saw shops to see if this is a possibility and the cost.
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On Feb 5, 2024, at 10:30?AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? John,
It is about 193 USD from? in the UK. Not sure about?the shipping cost to the US though.
James On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:22?AM John WI < jnadank@...> wrote: It was for sale in Norway but they ship to the US. ?$375 for the 30mm bore set shipped to the US.? They only have 1 set in stock. ? ? John,
Where do you see the 30mm arbor version in the USA??
30mm arbor version is sold in Europe.?
James
On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 10:31?AM john adank < lseap107@...> wrote: Where was the 30mm arbor size ordered from? I¡¯m seeing $309US for the 30mm arbor size set but I¡¯ve only looked at one web site. John Adank ? At $120, the new CMT dado stack is unbeatable. I do not know why anyone wants to buy the dado Stack from any other company.
Btw, the review from Taylor Tools is very good. I have to say the product review from Taylor Tools is trustworthy based on ,my experience.
James
On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 9:55?AM john adank < lseap107@...> wrote: Infinity Tools has a somewhat similar design with their stacked dado set.? You can get an entire 3/4¡± stacked dado set on your arbor.? Unfortunately, no 30mm sized arbor and you would still have to drill pin holes and it¡¯s $329.90 and out of stock.? It has 2 full 1/4¡± chippers. I have the new CMT set which I set up on my Sawstop.? The 3/8¡± deep rabbit cuts I made were flat and little to no tear out but I had quite a bit of burning in the solid maple.? Mya e the burning was from my feed rate and the fact that¡¯s it¡¯s maple. Not sure if Infinity Tools could drill out a 30mm arbor hole and pins or not. I would definitely like to get one of these two dado stacks for the Felder. John Adank
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Photo of the 3/8¡± x 3/8¡± rabbit cut with new CMT Dado set
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I got the product email from Taylor Toolswork at 1PM today, but did not check it until now.?
Looks like it is a great alternative to get the dado capability on the slider. Basically, it can cut dado between 6mm to 20mm. It covers the range of Felder two dado cutters. It is only $120, already sold out.
Of course, you need to have the 30 mm arbor and 2 pin holes bored.
James
Re: Power Feed F348 electrical install
Pierre, Your connections look good to me. If you do not have a 110 outlet near by that is not a bad idea. Before running air thru the shop I used a baby air compressor for clamps. Extra outlets never hurt. As I write this, all of your power comes from the same circuit, so maybe compressor is too big a load from startup current point of view but you get the point.
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On Feb 6, 2024, at 5:26?AM, pierre.bourassa via groups.io <pierre.bourassa@...> wrote: ?Thank you all for the precious info. I will simply install another electrical box using the same circuit as my machine on the floor to plug in the feeder. Now I need to figure out which wire goes where. In Canada, for 220V circuit, red and black are live and the ground is bare. In my box, I also have white for neutral - the electrician suggested me to install a 4 wire cable so that I could also have 110V near my machine in case in the future I may need it. The wires from the feeder are brown, yellow and blue... I would assume the right connection is black-brown, red-blue, then yellow to ground wire. I just wish Felder would provide some adequate installation instructions with their equipment!
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Re: Power Feed F348 electrical install
Thank you all for the precious info. I will simply install another electrical box using the same circuit as my machine on the floor to plug in the feeder. Now I need to figure out which wire goes where. In Canada, for 220V circuit, red and black are live and the ground is bare. In my box, I also have white for neutral - the electrician suggested me to install a 4 wire cable so that I could also have 110V near my machine in case in the future I may need it. The wires from the feeder are brown, yellow and blue... I would assume the right connection is black-brown, red-blue, then yellow to ground wire. I just wish Felder would provide some adequate installation instructions with their equipment!
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Re: Articulating Shop Light
For overhead dust collection boom arms or any boom arm where you want the most flexibility of positioning, that means an articulating boom arm. ?For articulating boom arms used for dust collection, the middle knuckle requires a lot attention to detail to have the best function as the hose must flex in both directions significantly and not kink or spring back etc. ?For an electrical cord only, not so challenging.
As for the mag mounted LED lights used for drill press, bandsaw etc, there was a recent discussion on Sawmillcreek.
I have a SuperNova and really like it. ?I purchased it some time ago and it seems like there are now quite a few inexpensive alternatives. ? I do not have reason to believe that any of them are as good as the SuperNova, but perhaps good enough and less expensive. ?Seems like for drill press or bandsaw task lighting, it would be way easier to mount dedicated LED lights than have an articulating boom arm, but that is just my 0.02.
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Re: Felder K 700 S comsidering.
I was planning to buy a K700 with just a few options when I was alerted by Imran on this group to a used machine in Texas. I had to make a fast decision, which was hard on such a large purchase, but I ended up with a $30k loaded KF700S for $15k. I had to drive down from STL and transport it, but I have family in Texas, so that wasn't a problem. I love the dual DROs, which I wouldn't have chosen had I specified a machine in my budget.?
I attended the Alpine workshop last spring, which I highly recommend. I'm currently about 30% done using the machine to build a whole new set of kitchen cabinets. That's helping me justify the purchase with my wife.
Bottom line, if you know what you want but have some flexibility, and are ready to move quickly, there are some good deals to be had. I'm extremely happy with my machine.?
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Re: Power Feed F348 electrical install
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On Feb 5, 2024, at 3:51?PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Hi Michael,
Per your private msg, please see the installation pics. BTW, I picked up the power after the master switch. There are provisions in my KF700 electrical cabinet that allow the wiring to go to the opening in the chassis.
On Feb 5, 2024, at 12:33?PM, Imran Malik <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I installed an electrical outlet in the chassis of my KF700. Mounted inside the chassis the outlet sits flush with the outer surface of the chassis. Let me know if you would like a picture. On Feb 5, 2024, at 11:51?AM, pierre.bourassa via groups.io <pierre.bourassa@...> wrote: ?I finally received the tilting device for my power feeder last week. I had to grind a bit of the metal to allow one of the sides to fit into rail on the machine (I am surprised how poorly milled one of the side was, but at least I could fix it myself and avoid having to wait another 8 weeks to get it from Felder).
Si I just installed the F348 on my CF741S machine last weekend. All I need to do now is to plug it into the power. The motor plate says 230V and 3.5-3.7 A. My CF741 is connected using a wire I ran in a conduit under my workshop concrete floor that is connected to a 240V 30A circuit. The F348 only adds a few amps to the load and I wonder if it can be connected to the same circuit. Otherwise, I will need to run a new 240V circuit and it is going to be a mess since all my walls are covered with 1/2 in plywood, or maybe run it in the ceiling and drop it down to the feeder to avoid having a cable on the floor in the middle of shop. What do you think?
How do you guys connect your power feeders?
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Re: Articulating Shop Light
Larry, if you are planning on doing a shop build of something similar to the medical light in Brians ?post, try going onto YouTube and searching for "overhead dust collection boom arm". these involve much the same structure and there are a bunch of ideas for a shop built boom arm.
Murray
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Re: Power Feed F348 electrical install
Hi Michael,
Per your private msg, please see the installation pics. BTW, I picked up the power after the master switch. There are provisions in my KF700 electrical cabinet that allow the wiring to go to the opening in the chassis.
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On Feb 5, 2024, at 12:33?PM, Imran Malik <imranindiana@...> wrote: ? I installed an electrical outlet in the chassis of my KF700. Mounted inside the chassis the outlet sits flush with the outer surface of the chassis. Let me know if you would like a picture. On Feb 5, 2024, at 11:51?AM, pierre.bourassa via groups.io <pierre.bourassa@...> wrote: ?I finally received the tilting device for my power feeder last week. I had to grind a bit of the metal to allow one of the sides to fit into rail on the machine (I am surprised how poorly milled one of the side was, but at least I could fix it myself and avoid having to wait another 8 weeks to get it from Felder).
Si I just installed the F348 on my CF741S machine last weekend. All I need to do now is to plug it into the power. The motor plate says 230V and 3.5-3.7 A. My CF741 is connected using a wire I ran in a conduit under my workshop concrete floor that is connected to a 240V 30A circuit. The F348 only adds a few amps to the load and I wonder if it can be connected to the same circuit. Otherwise, I will need to run a new 240V circuit and it is going to be a mess since all my walls are covered with 1/2 in plywood, or maybe run it in the ceiling and drop it down to the feeder to avoid having a cable on the floor in the middle of shop. What do you think?
How do you guys connect your power feeders?
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Re: Maintenance on BF6-31 - how to clean and lubricate saw rise/fall
I managed to clean it eventually - compressed air helped a lot - in case it's useful to someone else, with the saw lowered remove the saw blade and clean as much as you can using tissues and a long reach brush - I used one of those made to reach inside bottles. Then fully raise the saw and clean from below. Lubricate and move up and down a couple of times to spread the lubricant. It's not quite butter but much better than it was!
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Thanks for the excellent points, Brian. I am probably in the 9' x 10', 10' x 10' range but it depends on where I end up putting it. I have a space inside of my existing building that would be ideal (only because of location and that is where the network comes into the building) but it is a bit size-limiting. Time to grab my measuring tape and then work up a drawing.
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Re: CMT Orange 8" Locked Dado Pro Blade Set
When considering shipping it getting expensive.
Ridge sell dado set and for $409 (you can usually find coupons of 15% that lowers it to ~$350).
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So if CMT is $200 before shipping (~$250), it gets close to Ridge and saves the hassle to pin hole it.
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Thanks John. I completely represent the comment "whatever size you choose you will fill it up." Regardless of the size house, garage, or shop my wife and I have ever owned, we have filled it up. We are not hoarders but our daughter keeps saying we are "hoarder-light". Out in my shop, I hang on to way more end cuts than I need but, over time, often find a use for them. Unless it is the cheapest of fasteners, I hang on to every left over fastener I get with a project or piece of equipment. I am not near as bad as my step father who would pull nails out of boards, straighten them, and throw them in an old coffee can. When he was walking his property, if he came across an old piece of baling wire he would pick it up and take it back to his shop and put it in a different coffee can.?
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Ok I can weigh in here. I just built a new shop, roughly the same size as yours, and I had to include an office in it. Originally i was thinking the same as you. I know my real passion is in the shop not in my office. So I wanted the office to be as small as possible to ensure i gave as much floor space as i could to the shop. And that is good logic. But this is what I'll say. The difference between an office that is 8x10 or an office that is 10x10 will have a huge impact on the functionality?of your office. That could be enough space to allow you to include a book shelf, or a more comfortable desk, or a nicer chair, or whatever. But those 2 feet will have almost no impact on the functionality?of the shop.?
Now I wouldnt take that too far. Don't make your office 20x20. But a few extra feet in the office might entirely change how that space feels and functions, where as it will likely have minimal impact on the shop. So give yourself some good elbow room there and dont?try and squeeze ever inch out of it that you can.
-Brian
On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:10?AM Larry < larry@...> wrote: Hello,
I know if 10 people answer, I'll get 20 answers to my below question with probably a fair number saying it depends. But, I'll ask anyway.
I am adding 1200 sq. ft. onto my existing 1750 sq. ft. shop and want to incorporate in a small, enclosed one-man office (something I don't have right now). All I'll likely have in it is a small desk, filing cabinet, project board, and a place for my network rack that is out of the shop environment. I don't want to undersize it but don't want to take up a more floor space than necessary. That all said, for those of you that have a dedicated shop office, how big is it and thoughts you might have on whether you should have gone bigger, smaller, etc. Thanks.
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Re: Power Feed F348 electrical install
I installed an electrical outlet in the chassis of my KF700. Mounted inside the chassis the outlet sits flush with the outer surface of the chassis. Let me know if you would like a picture.
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On Feb 5, 2024, at 11:51?AM, pierre.bourassa via groups.io <pierre.bourassa@...> wrote: ?I finally received the tilting device for my power feeder last week. I had to grind a bit of the metal to allow one of the sides to fit into rail on the machine (I am surprised how poorly milled one of the side was, but at least I could fix it myself and avoid having to wait another 8 weeks to get it from Felder).
Si I just installed the F348 on my CF741S machine last weekend. All I need to do now is to plug it into the power. The motor plate says 230V and 3.5-3.7 A. My CF741 is connected using a wire I ran in a conduit under my workshop concrete floor that is connected to a 240V 30A circuit. The F348 only adds a few amps to the load and I wonder if it can be connected to the same circuit. Otherwise, I will need to run a new 240V circuit and it is going to be a mess since all my walls are covered with 1/2 in plywood, or maybe run it in the ceiling and drop it down to the feeder to avoid having a cable on the floor in the middle of shop. What do you think?
How do you guys connect your power feeders?
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Re: Veneering: Substrate & Supplier
The lower doors have a full sheet of MDO on outside and inside faces. Upper doors use a single sheet outside and inside face. I had to reskin left side lower door in 2016 because of neglect. In place since 2003, so almost 21 yrs. ? 
? Imran Malik ? ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Dan Gavrilyuk Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2024 10:33 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] Veneering: Substrate & Supplier ? Last purchased mdo plywood in 2021 from my supplier in the northeast (Atlantic plywood), so I can¡¯t speak for current quality as well ?I haven¡¯t purchased MDO since 2017, so the quality may have gone down. I do know that the stuff at the big box stores is not quality ply. ?When I did buy it, it was always through a yard that catered to the pro cab builders. ?Combo-core is great but is easily dented and edge-damaged, so it requires careful handling in pay experience.? ? David Best - via mobile phone?
On Feb 4, 2024, at 7:07?PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? In my experience with it, I¡¯ve seen some grain telegraph with MDO in paint grade work. It¡¯s best to go with something like combi core or the like which has 1/8¡± layers of mdf on the surface of each side.? ?Mac, I don¡¯t think that¡¯s a phenolic surface, I think it¡¯s Kraft paper. If so, the product is called, medium density overlay plywood, which is terrific for paint grade cabinetry. ?It¡¯s flat and smooth with no voids in the surface of veneers under the Kraft paper. ? <MDO-GOOD-1-SIDE-cclc-1024x768.jpg> | |
? ? David Best - via mobile phone?
On Feb 4, 2024, at 8:44?AM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
?What is this stuff , I think som kind of sign stuff very flat salvaged a bunch. Appears 7 or 8 ply for .75 phenolic face ? ? ? Designing and building for 50 years
On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:46?PM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? I usually glue on 1/4" strips and then fit from there. Around 1/8 is ideal for not telegraphing.? Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765
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Re: Power Feed F348 electrical install
Hook up to machine power they draw squat. ?recently set up a feeder to my Gomad shaper. Used machine power. I have a light start stop button so I can run by itself, but if I have to hit stop for shaper the power feeder stops.? When I start over the cycle starts over another words feeder kills with shaper and doesn¡¯t re start until I start the feeder. Mac,,
Designing and building for 50 years
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On Feb 5, 2024, at 10:51?AM, pierre.bourassa via groups.io <pierre.bourassa@...> wrote:
?I finally received the tilting device for my power feeder last week. I had to grind a bit of the metal to allow one of the sides to fit into rail on the machine (I am surprised how poorly milled one of the side was, but at least I could fix it myself and avoid having to wait another 8 weeks to get it from Felder).
Si I just installed the F348 on my CF741S machine last weekend. All I need to do now is to plug it into the power. The motor plate says 230V and 3.5-3.7 A. My CF741 is connected using a wire I ran in a conduit under my workshop concrete floor that is connected to a 240V 30A circuit. The F348 only adds a few amps to the load and I wonder if it can be connected to the same circuit. Otherwise, I will need to run a new 240V circuit and it is going to be a mess since all my walls are covered with 1/2 in plywood, or maybe run it in the ceiling and drop it down to the feeder to avoid having a cable on the floor in the middle of shop. What do you think?
How do you guys connect your power feeders?
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Re: Power Feed F348 electrical install
Mine is wired into the same feed as the saw.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com
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On Feb 5, 2024, at 9:51?AM, pierre.bourassa via groups.io <pierre.bourassa@...> wrote:
I finally received the tilting device for my power feeder last week. I had to grind a bit of the metal to allow one of the sides to fit into rail on the machine (I am surprised how poorly milled one of the side was, but at least I could fix it myself and avoid having to wait another 8 weeks to get it from Felder).
Si I just installed the F348 on my CF741S machine last weekend. All I need to do now is to plug it into the power. The motor plate says 230V and 3.5-3.7 A. My CF741 is connected using a wire I ran in a conduit under my workshop concrete floor that is connected to a 240V 30A circuit. The F348 only adds a few amps to the load and I wonder if it can be connected to the same circuit. Otherwise, I will need to run a new 240V circuit and it is going to be a mess since all my walls are covered with 1/2 in plywood, or maybe run it in the ceiling and drop it down to the feeder to avoid having a cable on the floor in the middle of shop. What do you think?
How do you guys connect your power feeders?
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I spent 40 years in offices about 10¡¯ x 10¡¯. That provides room for a desk, file cabinet, layout table, bookshelves, and space for a visitor to sit. Used to keep a drafting table with parallel rule also.
Whatever size you choose you¡¯ll eventually fill it up.
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K700S and A941
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Power Feed F348 electrical install
I finally received the tilting device for my power feeder last week. I had to grind a bit of the metal to allow one of the sides to fit into rail on the machine (I am surprised how poorly milled one of the side was, but at least I could fix it myself and avoid having to wait another 8 weeks to get it from Felder).
Si I just installed the F348 on my CF741S machine last weekend. All I need to do now is to plug it into the power. The motor plate says 230V and 3.5-3.7 A. My CF741 is connected using a wire I ran in a conduit under my workshop concrete floor that is connected to a 240V 30A circuit. The F348 only adds a few amps to the load and I wonder if it can be connected to the same circuit. Otherwise, I will need to run a new 240V circuit and it is going to be a mess since all my walls are covered with 1/2 in plywood, or maybe run it in the ceiling and drop it down to the feeder to avoid having a cable on the floor in the middle of shop. What do you think?
How do you guys connect your power feeders?
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My office will be a little bigger at 18x18' but it will be separated from the rest of the building by a tight door so dust will stay out, which means I can use it as a finishing room (I don't spray...just hand applied finishes) which keeps a damp surface safe while I continue to make sawdust in the rest of the shop.
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