On Thursday, July 13, 2023, 05:43, aero_qfi <davesawdon@...> wrote:

I keep being tempted to treat myself to a replacement for my old and rattly 4-speed Denford Viceroy pillar drill and the recent mention of the Nova drills has restarted the internal debate. My current drill press enables me to make perfectly adequate holes so I'm having difficulty justifying a change, both to myself and SWMBA ... I think it's more wanting a new toy rather than needing to replace the existing one. Anyway, I'd welcome and comments and observations on the Nova Viking and Voyage drills because their sparkly gizzmos are calling to me ;-)

Dave (in the UK)

On Jul 12, 2023, at 6:59 PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

?Wade, the “ledge” that supports material when the top is flipped down into vertical position is about 10-inches tall ? It’s a U-shaped tube with one center brace, so you can slide materials between the tubes if they are under about 22-inches in width. ?I wouldn’t want to be without that “ledge” as it acts as a handle to maneuver the cart when it has heavy loads and the table is in the up/flat position. ?Fellow FOG member Steve Rowe has the ShopCarts unit as well and did a nice review of it here:

I customized mine with swivel casters on both ends and a lanyard I made at summer camp on the releasing pin ring. ?It will easily hold 8 sheets of 3/4 ApplePly weighing 1,000 pounds. ?I’ve done that a few times. ?The same load of ApplePly on my Barth 500V (which is rated the same in load capacity) will cause the top of the Barth to creep down about 2-inches per hour. ?So much for “German engineering”. ? ?As Steve points out, with more than about 5 sheets of 3/4-inch plywood loaded on it, you will really struggle tilting that top from vertical to horizontal position without some kind of mechanical assistance. ?I have a ceiling-mounted HF wench )) to help with this and to raise/lower my wall-mounted glue-up bench (discussed here: ?).

David Best
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On Jul 12, 2023, at 4:56 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:

David Best,

No more Felder “machine Kool-Aid”, but am considering trying their “equipment Kool-Aid” ?

I will say though, after seeing your link to the Shopcarts 4’ panel handler, that’s now on the consideration table.

When the 4’ panel handler is in the vertical position you stack your material on the lip or ledge to support the material, but wouldn’t it be great if there was some “magical” way to design it to where you could fold that ledge away and have a flat work table you could use and access on all sides of it. ?Do you know how wide that lip/ledger is?

Thx,

Wade

On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:08 PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

?Wade, me thinks you have slurped too much Felder brand Kool-Aid. ?Great castors are cheap and easy to put on. ?Last time I looked Barth wanted something like $1K for a laminated top with holes. ?That too is cheap and easy to fabricate in your shop, or outsource to a water-jet facility. ??

The Hafele tilting panel cart is no longer sold by Hafele. ?I had one myself, on sale it was $299 in 2002. ?I sold it when I moved, missed it so much I wanted to buy another, but they had stopped selling them, so I got the Shop Cart which is eve beefier. ?I too replaced the castors on my Hafele cart..

David Best
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:

Aaron Inami,

That castor wheel description sounds like the perfect scenario for a castor wheel set up on these tables. ?

For me that’s another notch in the pro column for the Fat 300 S.

Thx,

Wade

On Jul 11, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:

?Felder describes the casters as "2 lockable swivel castors and 2 swivel casters with directional locks".

The "2 swivel casters with directional locks" will lock into one direction, but will still roll.? This acts as a fixed castor to help with transporting material across the shop? (if you have 4 fully swivel castors, it's really difficult to control the cart when you are moving stuff around).? If you "unlock" them, they become a standard swivel castor.

The "2 lockable swivel castors" are complete dual-locking casters.? They will lock in any direction as well as apply a brake to the wheel so that the table does not roll off on its own.

On Jul 12, 2023, at 2:35 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:

?This worked for me





White pad left almost no scratches, the grey possibly some.? The maroon is more aggressive.

PK

On Jul 12, 2023, at 1:23 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:

?Albert,

I need more pics!!!? That thing is next level.? I want more close ups for sure!

PK

On Jul 12, 2023, at 12:36 PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

If by “zero” the indicator you mean altering its height so the indicator hand points to the 12-o’clock position, a micro-adjust will do that. ?However, this is not necessary. ?The common method to “zero” the indicator is by twisting the outer dial bezel so that the zero position on the dial face matches the arrow position - then when you reposition the indicator to another place, the indicator will tell you the exact difference. ??

David Best - via mobile phone?

On Jul 12, 2023, at 11:45 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I made the long-reach indicator holder similar to the David Best shows. I could not be confident that I could “zero” the indicator, though. The indicator would tell me if I was moving the table up or down, but not whether I had it where I wanted it. I eventually used two indicators at the right edge of the table, and used my level to see if the slider was parallel to the iron table top.

Any suggestions for how to “zero” the left-side indicator would be helpful. I want to try adjusting the slider again, this time to reduce toe-out, and I know I’ll have to work with slider elevation at the same time.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941