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My Felder Road Trip

 

I just returned from a trip to Munich, Germany, where I was visiting my daughter and working with a colleague. As you might know, Hall in Tirol is only about a two hour drive south of Munich. I had a few open days and decided to make a personal roadtrip to the Felder factory.

A little backstory is in order here. My Felder sales representative, Fergus Cooke at the Sacramento store, once mentioned that if I found myself in Austria, he might be able to arrange a tour of the factory. I took him up on his offer. He contacted a sales colleague in Hall, Pinosh Kumar, who contacted me. We arranged a time to meet at the Felder factory.

I expected something formal such as a short guided tour with hard hats, canned talking points, etc. Instead, Pinosh guided me on an informal, 2.5-hour long, tour of the factory. Not only was the tour informal, but I received no safety lecture, was not required to sign a disclaimer stating that if I were stupid enough to fall into a machine, I would not blame Felder, and we didn¡¯t even wear a hard hat. (Nobody there did.) Instead, Pinosh and I chatted while he described what we were seeing and we both dodged forklifts.

?It was a blast!

1. We started in the main offices, which we walked through to get to the factory area. All of the offices are along one long hall, including the offices of the executives.? Engineering, production, marketing, and sales were all located along this hallway. The company was founded by Johann Felder in the mid-1950s. He recently passed away and the company is now run by his children and grandchildren. The company hierarchy is relatively flat. Colleagues greet each other, from high to low, with a simple, ¡°Hallo.¡± Pinosh pointed out that I had walked by Martin Felder as we made our way to the factory floor. Moreover, J. Felder¡¯s grandchildren work in all aspects of whatever part of the company most interests them, such as marketing or sales. There is no free ride, though it is expected from the start that the Felder relative will lead that part of the company. It is a family-owned company, after all.

2. Even though the buildings were not laid out this way, Pinosh made the point of showing me how a machine is made from start to finish. So we started in the building where lasers cut the raw material (sheets of steel) into the right shape. Then, workers would use big metal bending machines to bend the cut-out shapes. The machines were accompanied by computers; depending on which part was being bent, the program would indicate which bending tools to insert into the machine and a tool magazine would bring the appropriate tool to the factory worker. This is a theme I saw repeated on many of the machines.

3. The next step was to see the assembly of sub-parts of the machines. Here, they would use jigs to position the parts where they could be welded together. I saw several outriggers assembled for Felder sliders.

4. Once the main parts are assembled, they are powder coated in another building. The machine is hooked onto a ceiling-mounted sliding rail assembly that can move it through washing, drying, painting, and then baking (at 180 degrees celsius). This is where I learned that you can order your Felder tool in any color you like! Of course, there is some additional cost, but because each machine is tagged with an owner, with all of the?owner-specified customizations, they can change out the paint and you can get that pink A3-41 you¡¯ve always dreamed of!
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5. Next we visited an area where they make all sorts of parts for the equipment they sell. Most notably, here I saw how they manufacture the Silent Power cutting heads from circular steel blanks. The milling is done in CNCs. Tolerances are checked and the cutting heads are fussed over until they are perfect (or, I suppose, within some tolerance of perfection). I learned that there is not a machine that will install all those tungsten carbide cutting heads. Maybe they start new employees with screwing in the cutting heads as some sort of hazing ritual?

6. The final assembly floor was my favorite part of the tour. By this time, they have installed the machine onto the pallet on which it will be delivered to your house. The machines roll down this area several abreast. Factory workers have cubbies on both sides of this central work area from which they can draw the parts to install on the machines. The machines that are being worked on all differ. You might have a Felder brand table saw, followed by a Format4 thicknesser, followed by a Hammer A3 in line here. At the end of this assembly area, the machines are tested. This includes running wood through the machine. They had a large dust extraction unit in the testing area to which the tested machine would be hooked up and adjusted. Finally, the machines are wrapped in plastic and sent to the shipping area, which I did not see.

As part of the tour, we also stopped by a separate factory building where Felder does education. Here, Austrian students, some as young as 14, learn as part of their technical training. Like Germany, Austria has an education system in which students are placed on different paths depending on inclination and ability, with the end result being either attendance at university or a certificate and a job in industry. Felder participates in the training of students on the technical path. Felder educates cohorts of 15-20 students who are paid 50,000 euros a year by the government. In addition, I believe Felder provides a bonus. I was stunned by this information. Graduate students in the UC system aren¡¯t paid this much! When I get the chance, I¡¯ll talk to my Austrian colleague about the Austrian system and confirm the details from her. By the time I was at that part of the tour I was becoming tuckered out, so I may not have all the details about this correct. (Early in my trip I contracted a nasty stomach bug that dogged me the entire trip.)

After the factory tour, Pinosh and I drove in his personal car to the showroom, which is near to, but not adjacent to, the factory. This is likely the largest showroom of Felder products around. I attached a few photos of the showroom. We wandered around looking at?machines and chatting, but by this time I was feeling a little guilty about the amount of time Pinosh had spent with me. After about 20 minutes, we returned to the start of the tour and parted ways. The next morning, before returning to Munich, I came back to the showroom on my own so I could spend a more leisurely time checking out the machines. I chatted with a few salespeople there. One of them gave me a part that had broken on my Hammer K3. (The little plastic clip on the outrigger that fastens down the tape scale split on first use. I joked that I traveled 6000 miles for that replacement part.)

My sincerest thanks go to Pinosh for the great tour and his time. If you have the chance, I encourage you to travel to the Felder factory and arrange a tour. It was fun and educational!

Attached photos: Photography was not allowed on the factory floor. The photos of the older machines are from the office area. The other photos are from the showroom. I realized only while selecting photos to attach here that many of the photos seem to have the KF700 as the focal machine. This is the machine I'm currently lusting after. Mmmmm.



Re: Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press

 

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In addition to the great advice received, I'd buy a point set with the indicator.? They are not very expensive and come with 10-12 different tips.? Most indicators use the same threads so the tips seem interchangeable.

If only drilling in wood this is irrelevant but if drilling in metal. I've come to depend on my pin gauges to tell me how my old Moore Jig Bore is drilling.? I like to build stuff using pins and I know that usually my holes are oversized .0015-.002.? Drilling a hole and measuring it with a pin gives you information on how the runout affects the bore.? Sometimes the angular contact bearings used on drill presses will show runout when not under load but will tighten up loaded as that is how the bearings are designed.? I'm not familiar with the Nova but if you work much with metal, pin gauges tell you a lot and you don't need an expensive precision set for most work.

Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Hinman <jhinman1911@...>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 8:58 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press
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I have three dial indicators - two Wen and a Teclock. The Wen¡¯s were very inexpensive; the price of the Teclock is lost in time. All three are serviceable and give repeatable results. For setting up machines they seem to be adequate,

One of my mag bases is the old style with separate arms. The other is a brand name with an articulated arm like the one in David Best¡¯s r]suggestion. Both work, but the articulated one is much easier to use. I use these very sporadically, and there is a definite learning curve to the old style and I have to re-climb that learning curve every time I use it. The old style has a fine adjuster that my articulated arm does not. I rarely feel a need to use that fine adjuster.

Some bases attach to a ug on the back of the indicator, and others attach to the shaft of the indicator. I favor gripping the shaft, particularly when trying to get parallel to a saw table. Make sure your base and indicator are compatible.

I have the Nova Voyager. I like the computer speed control. I usually use the speeds suggested by the machine, but some folks disagree with those suggestions. It has a relatively generous work table. Other than the fancy DVR it is a pretty basic light drill press.

It has no work light, and I went through several iterations before I found a light that works. No laser designator, but I¡¯m not sure those are that helpful.

I tried once to update the computer, but was not successful. One day perhaps ?I¡¯ll try again. One has to install a program on a laptop and take the laptop to the drill press to do the update. That is a real nuisance, and the update instructions are not easy to follow.

Not too long ago I was having issues with run-out. The quill seemed to be true, so I replaced the original chuck with an Albrecht (maybe I am spelling that correctly) keyless chuck with integral Morse taper. I should have spent the time and effort to remove and re-set the original chuck to try to get it aligned better before I spent the money on a new chuck. The Nova depth indicator occluded the upper ring on the keyless chuck just enough that I could not tighten the chuck. Fortunately a friend was able to mill a little off the bottom of the depth indicator and now the chuck works the way it should.

By the way, the new chuck cost $500 through a US supplier. I found out too late that an outfit in the UK would sell it and send it to me for half of that.

To make a long story short, it is a decent consumer-grade drill press. I love the DVR and will never go back to changing belts, but would certainly look for that feature in sturdier drill presses if I had to replace my Nova.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941


Re: Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press

 

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More details here on the specific models and arm lengths: ??https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzxbBU


David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best


Re: Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press

 

By the way, many dial indicators come with only a small ball tip. A broad flat tip is essential if you want to measure to a point, like a saw tooth. If an indicator comes with a wide flat tip as an extra, that is a real plus.

The indicator that comes with the OneWay has a good flat tip.

(I guess I actually have 4 indicators, including the one that came with my OneWay).
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941


Re: Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press

 

I have three dial indicators - two Wen and a Teclock. The Wen¡¯s were very inexpensive; the price of the Teclock is lost in time. All three are serviceable and give repeatable results. For setting up machines they seem to be adequate,

One of my mag bases is the old style with separate arms. The other is a brand name with an articulated arm like the one in David Best¡¯s r]suggestion. Both work, but the articulated one is much easier to use. I use these very sporadically, and there is a definite learning curve to the old style and I have to re-climb that learning curve every time I use it. The old style has a fine adjuster that my articulated arm does not. I rarely feel a need to use that fine adjuster.

Some bases attach to a ug on the back of the indicator, and others attach to the shaft of the indicator. I favor gripping the shaft, particularly when trying to get parallel to a saw table. Make sure your base and indicator are compatible.

I have the Nova Voyager. I like the computer speed control. I usually use the speeds suggested by the machine, but some folks disagree with those suggestions. It has a relatively generous work table. Other than the fancy DVR it is a pretty basic light drill press.

It has no work light, and I went through several iterations before I found a light that works. No laser designator, but I¡¯m not sure those are that helpful.

I tried once to update the computer, but was not successful. One day perhaps ?I¡¯ll try again. One has to install a program on a laptop and take the laptop to the drill press to do the update. That is a real nuisance, and the update instructions are not easy to follow.

Not too long ago I was having issues with run-out. The quill seemed to be true, so I replaced the original chuck with an Albrecht (maybe I am spelling that correctly) keyless chuck with integral Morse taper. I should have spent the time and effort to remove and re-set the original chuck to try to get it aligned better before I spent the money on a new chuck. The Nova depth indicator occluded the upper ring on the keyless chuck just enough that I could not tighten the chuck. Fortunately a friend was able to mill a little off the bottom of the depth indicator and now the chuck works the way it should.

By the way, the new chuck cost $500 through a US supplier. I found out too late that an outfit in the UK would sell it and send it to me for half of that.

To make a long story short, it is a decent consumer-grade drill press. I love the DVR and will never go back to changing belts, but would certainly look for that feature in sturdier drill presses if I had to replace my Nova.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941


Re: Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press

David Sabo
 

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I like the Oneway multi-gauge. ? It¡¯s not the best suited for the drill press; but it works and is much better for other machines like jointers , fences ect¡­. ? About a hundred bucks?




The Nova is a pretty solid machine. ?The chuck is pretty poor though, so plan on replacing that. ? ?You¡¯ll need/want to have a surge protector installed for the power infeed to protect the electronics.?


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Re: Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press

 

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Fred, you will find my preferred dial indicator and magnetic base recommendations in the attached. ?But the following would suffice for your intended purpose provided it has the necessary arm length to indicate from your mounting position to whatever you¡¯re trying to check..




David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/


On Jul 9, 2023, at 8:03 PM, fred burgess via groups.io <fredbhelp@...> wrote:

I would like to acquire a dial indicator and base to check the run of my drill press and would like the groups¡¯s input on which one to buy. ?Obviously I can go top shelf and it looks like one could spend well on $300.00 on the dial indicator and base but hopefully there are options less costly that will get accurate results.

Also would like any input on Nova Voyager Drill Press¡ª-technical issues as well as maintenance issues.

Thanks

Fred Burgess

Ideal Tools for Commissioning Felder Equipment.pdf
Ideal Tools for Commissioning Felder Equipment.pdf


Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press

 

I would like to acquire a dial indicator and base to check the run of my drill press and would like the groups¡¯s input on which one to buy. ?Obviously I can go top shelf and it looks like one could spend well on $300.00 on the dial indicator and base but hopefully there are options less costly that will get accurate results.

Also would like any input on Nova Voyager Drill Press¡ª-technical issues as well as maintenance issues.

Thanks

Fred Burgess


Re: Parts diagram for an older model F700 shaper

 

Many thanks Brian - I think I have a good idea now. ?Regards, Richard.?


Re: Screw in hinges

 

Mike,
I might take you up on that! This one has been setting in the shop for over 9 months now. Contractor has been too busy to install it and customer in no hurry. Worried something might happen to it.


Re: Parts diagram for an older model F700 shaper

 

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See attached copies of the parts list for the shaper hood. Hopefully that tells you what you need to know.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com

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On Jul 9, 2023, at 2:47 AM, Richard Stevens via groups.io <richard.stevens@...> wrote:

I am attempting to retrofit an older model F700 shaper fence to my Profil45 shaper so that I can push the fence far back enough to use router bits with the high speed spindle. The current Profil45 fence with the Aigner Integral doesn¡¯t go back far enough pretty much rendering the high speed router spindle useless.?

The F700 fence I have is a spare parts hand me down which I¡¯m now planning to resurrect. As you¡¯ll see in the attached photos, several of the components for the fence are missing. ?To do to this I¡¯ll first need to get hold of the fence parts list and schematics. ?Does anyone have this drawing and can provide me with an electronic copy, please? ?

One thing about the older fence is that it bolts onto the Profil45 table - this totally surprised me. ?Seems to me the variety of holes drilled and tapped in top serves several purposes ?and not just the Profil45 fence, the F900 fence or the Bowmould.

Anyhow hope one of you kind folks can share a copy of the F700 fence with me.

thanks in advance, richard
richard.stevens@...
melbourne ?


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Re: AD941 Infeed Table Adjustment

 

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James,

In my experience spring or flat has been mostly effected by outfeed table height. Setting the outfeed to be .001¡± below the cutting edges is a trivial adjustment.?

I have said this time and again, these machines could have been perfect when set at the factory, and given the issues inherent of having tables that flop up and down on hinges, they rarely make it to their destination with the same settings they left the factory with. Even if Felder USA went back over the machines upon arrival here, there is no guarantee that they make it from them to the customer without rough handling that can make the tables out of spec.

The only way you are getting a machine that will be perfect is to buy a much heavier duty machine, like a Martin or Hoffman, and maybe even the SCMI like PK got, at considerably higher expense. Felder could also calibrate it in your shop, again, at considerable expense, or you be willing to make some minor adjustments and have the machine do what you want it to do.

If the tables are flat and just out of alignment, adjusting a jointer is about as trivial as it gets in the realm of this level of machinery.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jul 8, 2023, at 7:37 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

Brain,

I know the jointer tables are adjustable, but it is not a trivial task.?

Maybe you can do a group survey to see how many people want to have a jointer producing the flat board right after it is delivered to them without any adjustment.

I think what customers want matters the?most, it is 2023. Felder can make money because customers give them money to buy the machine.

James


On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 9:57?PM Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
James, Felder most certainly can have a jointer that makes a flat board, it all depends on what setting is at when you get it. These settings are adjustable and you can get what ever cut you want. You can complain all day long that it¡¯s not the way you want it, but they deliver how they think is best, whether we agree with that or not, really doesn¡¯t matter. Set it how you want it to cut and move on.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jul 8, 2023, at 5:56 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

Clearly, Felder is proud of their table adjustment mechanism, they think they are the best.?

It is the same mechanism on my?2016 AD741. I just shake my head that Felder still cannot deliver a jointer to produce the FLAT board.

James

On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 8:16?PM David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
One more comment.? The Hinge Pin is held in lateral position via set screws on both sides and the top shown in red arrows below.? Those may need to be loosened (especially the top one) in order to get the pin to actually move up/down.? Go easy on these, you don¡¯t want the pin wallowing about like a hotdog in a hallway.? Once you¡¯re done moving the pin up/down, re-secure those set screws.? I really detest this mechanism. ?

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On Jul 8, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Andy Pickler <andy.pickler@...> wrote:

I'm curious if anyone has a newer generation AD941 and has been able to adjust the infeed table to be coplanar with the outfeed table. In particular, what seems like it should be a simple adjustment on the hinge side is not working out according to my intuition (but I'm no machinist).<IMG_3456.jpeg><IMG_3455.jpeg>








Re: Parts diagram for an older model F700 shaper

 

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I need t block should be on the shelf.

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608-332-2330?cell

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On Jul 9, 2023, at 4:47 AM, Richard Stevens via groups.io <richard.stevens@...> wrote:

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I am attempting to retrofit an older model F700 shaper fence to my Profil45 shaper so that I can push the fence far back enough to use router bits with the high speed spindle. The current Profil45 fence with the Aigner Integral doesn¡¯t go back far enough pretty much rendering the high speed router spindle useless.?

The F700 fence I have is a spare parts hand me down which I¡¯m now planning to resurrect. As you¡¯ll see in the attached photos, several of the components for the fence are missing. ?To do to this I¡¯ll first need to get hold of the fence parts list and schematics. ?Does anyone have this drawing and can provide me with an electronic copy, please? ?

One thing about the older fence is that it bolts onto the Profil45 table - this totally surprised me. ?Seems to me the variety of holes drilled and tapped in top serves several purposes ?and not just the Profil45 fence, the F900 fence or the Bowmould.

Anyhow hope one of you kind folks can share a copy of the F700 fence with me.

thanks in advance, richard
richard.stevens@...
melbourne ?


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Re: AD941 Infeed Table Adjustment

 

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Parts diagram for an older model F700 shaper

 

I am attempting to retrofit an older model F700 shaper fence to my Profil45 shaper so that I can push the fence far back enough to use router bits with the high speed spindle. The current Profil45 fence with the Aigner Integral doesn¡¯t go back far enough pretty much rendering the high speed router spindle useless.?

The F700 fence I have is a spare parts hand me down which I¡¯m now planning to resurrect. As you¡¯ll see in the attached photos, several of the components for the fence are missing. ?To do to this I¡¯ll first need to get hold of the fence parts list and schematics. ?Does anyone have this drawing and can provide me with an electronic copy, please? ?

One thing about the older fence is that it bolts onto the Profil45 table - this totally surprised me. ?Seems to me the variety of holes drilled and tapped in top serves several purposes ?and not just the Profil45 fence, the F900 fence or the Bowmould.

Anyhow hope one of you kind folks can share a copy of the F700 fence with me.

thanks in advance, richard
richard.stevens@...
melbourne ?



Re: AD941 Infeed Table Adjustment

 

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On Jul 8, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Jacques Gagnon <jacques.gagnon309@...> wrote:

?¡­it¡¯s Friday, time for ? off the wall ? concepts¡­

Given that Felder positions itself as a company offering its customers ? machines built to specs ?, could we envision being able to specify the calibration on the machine? One could then choose between spring joint or flat setting.


Re: AD941 Infeed Table Adjustment

 

¡­it¡¯s Friday, time for ? off the wall ? concepts¡­

Given that Felder positions itself as a company offering its customers ? machines built to specs ?, could we envision being able to specify the calibration on the machine? One could then choose between spring joint or flat setting.


Re: AD941 Infeed Table Adjustment

 

Brain,

I know the jointer tables are adjustable, but it is not a trivial task.?

Maybe you can do a group survey to see how many people want to have a jointer producing the flat board right after it is delivered to them without any adjustment.

I think what customers want matters the?most, it is 2023. Felder can make money because customers give them money to buy the machine.

James


On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 9:57?PM Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
James, Felder most certainly can have a jointer that makes a flat board, it all depends on what setting is at when you get it. These settings are adjustable and you can get what ever cut you want. You can complain all day long that it¡¯s not the way you want it, but they deliver how they think is best, whether we agree with that or not, really doesn¡¯t matter. Set it how you want it to cut and move on.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jul 8, 2023, at 5:56 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

Clearly, Felder is proud of their table adjustment mechanism, they think they are the best.?

It is the same mechanism on my?2016 AD741. I just shake my head that Felder still cannot deliver a jointer to produce the FLAT board.

James

On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 8:16?PM David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
One more comment.? The Hinge Pin is held in lateral position via set screws on both sides and the top shown in red arrows below.? Those may need to be loosened (especially the top one) in order to get the pin to actually move up/down.? Go easy on these, you don¡¯t want the pin wallowing about like a hotdog in a hallway.? Once you¡¯re done moving the pin up/down, re-secure those set screws.? I really detest this mechanism. ?

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On Jul 8, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Andy Pickler <andy.pickler@...> wrote:

I'm curious if anyone has a newer generation AD941 and has been able to adjust the infeed table to be coplanar with the outfeed table. In particular, what seems like it should be a simple adjustment on the hinge side is not working out according to my intuition (but I'm no machinist).<IMG_3456.jpeg><IMG_3455.jpeg>





Re: AD941 Infeed Table Adjustment

 

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James, Felder most certainly can have a jointer that makes a flat board, it all depends on what setting is at when you get it. These settings are adjustable and you can get what ever cut you want. You can complain all day long that it¡¯s not the way you want it, but they deliver how they think is best, whether we agree with that or not, really doesn¡¯t matter. Set it how you want it to cut and move on.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jul 8, 2023, at 5:56 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

Clearly, Felder is proud of their table adjustment mechanism, they think they are the best.?

It is the same mechanism on my?2016 AD741. I just shake my head that Felder still cannot deliver a jointer to produce the FLAT board.

James

On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 8:16?PM David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
One more comment.? The Hinge Pin is held in lateral position via set screws on both sides and the top shown in red arrows below.? Those may need to be loosened (especially the top one) in order to get the pin to actually move up/down.? Go easy on these, you don¡¯t want the pin wallowing about like a hotdog in a hallway.? Once you¡¯re done moving the pin up/down, re-secure those set screws.? I really detest this mechanism. ?

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On Jul 8, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Andy Pickler <andy.pickler@...> wrote:

I'm curious if anyone has a newer generation AD941 and has been able to adjust the infeed table to be coplanar with the outfeed table. In particular, what seems like it should be a simple adjustment on the hinge side is not working out according to my intuition (but I'm no machinist).<IMG_3456.jpeg><IMG_3455.jpeg>





Re: AD941 Infeed Table Adjustment

 

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Got it, Thank You Andy

On Jul 8, 2023, at 6:31 PM, Andy Pickler <andy.pickler@...> wrote:

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Which cutter set up are you running? ?You mentioned your outfeed table is now 001¡±-.002¡± below the cutter knives, just wondering if your running straight knives. ?I also saw a different measurement for setting the outfeed table to the cutting block, which is different from setting to knives. ?See attached pictures. ?But I¡¯m wondering if this cutter block dimension is also true for someone that is running the Silent Power spiral knife cutting block set up?
I'm running the Silent Power cutterhead. And yes...in order to get the knives 0.001" above the outfeed table, the smooth surface of the cutterhead (cutting block) needed to be 0.032" below the outfeed table.