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That would be fine my bushings are on 10 mm increments some longer.? You want your package to be tight. Most important thing to pay attention to is everything is clean and no burrs treat these parts like treasures? Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jun 30, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Larry Long Neck <longneckwood@...> wrote:
?Thanks for the input, Mac.
How about something like a 60mm tall rebate cutter that is a single, solid block. If you had 25mm top hat bushings on both the top and the bottom, would the 10mm gap in the middle be a concern? I suppose that I'm wondering how important it is to try and find an exact height match set of bushings for each cutter, compared to using a set that is "close enough" (whatever that may be).
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AD941 installing fence support bar
Hello FOG members,
Could someone with an AD941 chime in on the proper assembly order for the support bar hardware. ?Felder shows one thing in the manual, but then supplies the bar with these “spacers” that came already on the threaded rod. ?Not sure if I remove these spacers or use them. ?You can see them circled in red. ?And, according to the manual, it appears that I don’t use the large washers at all. ?Maybe these were for shipping purposes only.?
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Wade
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Re: Couple more questions
Thanks for the input, Mac.
How about something like a 60mm tall rebate cutter that is a single, solid block. If you had 25mm top hat bushings on both the top and the bottom, would the 10mm gap in the middle be a concern? I suppose that I'm wondering how important it is to try and find an exact height match set of bushings for each cutter, compared to using a set that is "close enough" (whatever that may be).
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Larry Long Neck
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Re: Couple more questions
I don’t know what David does ,? I have sleeves to fill the space. Example cutter set up that use 4 cutters that are 1.25 or common 40 mm cutters don’t just float in the abyss with no support.? I also build packages with sleeves that are threaded. So complete with no piecemeal separate ?sleeves and bushings. These can be set with spacers so they are referenced with spindle down and no set up. Window and door work!
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On Jun 30, 2023, at 5:58 PM, Larry Long Neck <longneckwood@...> wrote:
?David B,
When buying the top hat bushings, do you have any rules you follow about matching the height of the bushing to the height of the cutter block? For example, if you had bushings that only filled up 50% of the height of the cutter block, would that be a potentially bad situation?
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Re: Couple more questions
David B,
When buying the top hat bushings, do you have any rules you follow about matching the height of the bushing to the height of the cutter block? For example, if you had bushings that only filled up 50% of the height of the cutter block, would that be a potentially bad situation?
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Larry Long Neck
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Re: Couple more questions
Agreed. Why buy both. You can buy groovers for 30mm or 1-1/4.? Whitehill sells great adjustable groovers for both bores and they are pretty reasonably priced.?
5) I would purchase both an 1 1/4” and 30mm spindle so you can share grooving tools and saw blades with the saw
Sorry to butt in, BUT - I’ve never understood why someone would buy two spindles just to get access to both 30mm and 1?” tooling.? Changing spindles is a PITA.? Whereas adapting 1?” tooling to a 30mm spindle with the use of inexpensive top-hat-style bushings is less expensive and easier on the back.? Two examples:
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5) I would purchase both an 1 1/4” and 30mm spindle so you can share grooving tools and saw blades with the saw
Sorry to butt in, BUT - I’ve never understood why someone would buy two spindles just to get access to both 30mm and 1?” tooling. ?Changing spindles is a PITA. ?Whereas adapting 1?” tooling to a 30mm spindle with the use of inexpensive top-hat-style bushings is less expensive and easier on the back. ?Two examples:
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Re: Couple more questions
Hi Ray, there are a few reasons I wouldn’t buy the C3, I went with a B3 & A3 setup
1) the saw rip fence is now the the fence from the K3 Basic, and when mounted on the jointer outfeed table it only reaches to approximately the Center of the blade. It also isn’t the standard saw fence extrusion so it doesn’t have the same high/low capability as a standard saw fence
2) rip capacity is 900mm which is fine for me, may not be for you
3) the shaper spindle doesn’t tilt, that’s a real issue for me
4) the C3 really needs a square shaped shop as you need access on 4 sides as opposed to 3 for 2 function machines
5) I would purchase both an 1 1/4” and 30mm spindle so you can share grooving tools and saw blades with the saw
Regards, Rod
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Re: Couple more questions
Hi Ray -?? I have a C3-31, the measuring tapes on the floor are an 8' square. I left about 16" of measuring tape on the J/P side, as the C3-41 is a larger machine. 
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Hi All,
What is the minimum workspace size necessary to support a C3-41? Trying to decide if it will fit.
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Ray
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Re: AD941 dust hose attachment
Thanks Chris and Brian for the Solidworks info. ?- Scott Hanna
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:55?PM Chris Reyerson < reyerson@...> wrote:
The subscription version of Solidworks is very similar to the full blown version, from my point of view there is no difference.??
Chris
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Re: AD941 dust hose attachment
Well, the files you create in the “Makers” version can only be used in the Makers version, you can’t import/export them to other platforms or softwares. You can export .stp or .iges files and use them elsewhere, but they will be “dumb”, no feature tree or ability to modify with any sort of intelligence. It is also a cloud based software, you only rent the right to use it and have to pay monthly or yearly.
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The subscription version of Solidworks is very similar to the full blown version, from my point of view there is no difference.??
Chris
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Re: Cf741 rip fence issues
Hi Simon,
I can’t tell how far off the part is from “flat” from the photo. ?But it looks like there may be enough material to machine the part so that it is flat. ?This might be an option if a replacement is not available. ?I am also wondering if part of the problem might be how it is attached to the base. ?Was it originally too wide where it is bolted to the base, and squeezed into place, causing the bend. ?It looks like a piece of cast steel or cast iron. ?They are prone to breakage if they are stressed too much, but they will bend, to a point.
Good luck,
Alex
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On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:00 AM, smo_motion via groups.io <smo_motion@...> wrote:
Hi there,
We have noticed that our casting on this 2007 cf741s rip fence is massively out of square. Is this by design??
Thanks
Simon
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The subscription version of Solidworks is very similar to the full blown version, from my point of view there is no difference.??
Chris
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Re: Cf741 rip fence issues th
Simon The interesting thing is how is something like this missed for 16 years. I don’t know if this is still a current part I would replace as it is Lilly to be screwed up in two axis. Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jun 30, 2023, at 6:38 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Yes, that unfortunately looks pretty severe. On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:31 AM, Simon Ballard via groups.io <smo_motion@...> wrote:
?Hi Wade, yes I do mean not flat. Thanks for the clarification. Although we only noticed this because after undoing the hand screws and pulling the extrusion back, the fence was out of square with the blade.? On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 12:17, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote: Simon,
Do you mean not flat, rather than out of square? ?
Wade On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:00 AM, smo_motion via groups.io <smo_motion@...> wrote:
?Hi there, We have noticed that our casting on this 2007 cf741s rip fence is massively out of square. Is this by design?? Thanks Simon <20230630_115557.jpg>
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Yes, that unfortunately looks pretty severe.
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On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:31 AM, Simon Ballard via groups.io <smo_motion@...> wrote:
?Hi Wade, yes I do mean not flat. Thanks for the clarification. Although we only noticed this because after undoing the hand screws and pulling the extrusion back, the fence was out of square with the blade.? On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 12:17, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote: Simon,
Do you mean not flat, rather than out of square? ?
Wade On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:00 AM, smo_motion via groups.io <smo_motion@...> wrote:
?Hi there, We have noticed that our casting on this 2007 cf741s rip fence is massively out of square. Is this by design?? Thanks Simon 
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Re: Cf741 rip fence issues
Hi Wade, yes I do mean not flat. Thanks for the clarification. Although we only noticed this because after undoing the hand screws and pulling the extrusion back, the fence was out of square with the blade.?
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 12:17, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote: Simon,
Do you mean not flat, rather than out of square? ?
Wade On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:00 AM, smo_motion via groups.io <smo_motion@...> wrote:
?Hi there, We have noticed that our casting on this 2007 cf741s rip fence is massively out of square. Is this by design?? Thanks Simon 
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Re: Cf741 rip fence issues
Simon,
Do you mean not flat, rather than out of square? ?
Wade
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On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:00 AM, smo_motion via groups.io <smo_motion@...> wrote:
?Hi there, We have noticed that our casting on this 2007 cf741s rip fence is massively out of square. Is this by design?? Thanks Simon 
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Hi there, We have noticed that our casting on this 2007 cf741s rip fence is massively out of square. Is this by design?? Thanks Simon 
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Re: AD941 dust hose attachment
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On Jun 29, 2023, at 11:30 AM, Tom Gensmer <tom@...> wrote:
Another resource to consider, depending on your needs, is Oneida Air. They sell metal adapters that fit Imperial hoses sizes and Metric machine ports:??
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Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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