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Re: 2004 Felder KF 700 X-Roll?

 

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2000

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Jun 11, 2023, at 9:35 AM, kelauben <kelauben@...> wrote:

?When did the X-Roll get introduced on the KF 700? Is it on the 2004 KF 700?

thanks


Re: Felder AD 741 vs Hammer A3-41

 

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No from what we have heard here with many asking for it when the silent power came out. There are other aftermarket suppliers though and quite a few have gone that route.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jun 11, 2023, at 7:32 AM, kelauben <kelauben@...> wrote:

Great response, thanks. I wonder Felder offers an upgrade path to their silent power cutter for the AD 741?


2004 Felder KF 700 X-Roll?

 

When did the X-Roll get introduced on the KF 700? Is it on the 2004 KF 700?

thanks


Re: Felder AD 741 vs Hammer A3-41

 

Great response, thanks. I wonder Felder offers an upgrade path to their silent power cutter for the AD 741?


Re: Felder AD 741 vs Hammer A3-41

 

Regarding what I hope to gain, that’s why I posted the question, what *would* I gain. I think that’s been answered now.?


I don’t know the knife configuration but will find out today. It’s a 2004 model.

I mostly work with white oak, hard maple, padauk, Purple Heart and walnut.

thanks for your comments

?


Re: AD941 Freight Clips

 

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Nothing, just send them back when your done.?

Tolve construction

On Jun 11, 2023, at 8:14 AM, bombamanwa@... wrote:

?Message sent Josh, thanks!


Re: AD941 Freight Clips

 

Message sent Josh, thanks!


Re: AD941 Freight Clips

 

I have all the clips from the ad941 and my saw. Though both together in a single pile. I'll be happy to send em, if you'll send em back after you move. Send me a private message.

-Eric


On Sun, Jun 11, 2023, 8:59?AM Joshua Tolve <joshuatolve@...> wrote:
I have the clips from my ks700 anyone know if they will be the same? If so dm me and I’ll send them?

Tolve construction

On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:25 PM, bombamanwa@... wrote:

?Hey There,

I'm potentially looking at re-palletizing my AD941 for an up-comming move (easier to move on a pallet). Chasing if anyone has a set of the AD941 hold-down freight clips.?

Thanks in advance.


Re: AD941 Freight Clips

 

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I have the clips from my ks700 anyone know if they will be the same? If so dm me and I’ll send them?

Tolve construction

On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:25 PM, bombamanwa@... wrote:

?Hey There,

I'm potentially looking at re-palletizing my AD941 for an up-comming move (easier to move on a pallet). Chasing if anyone has a set of the AD941 hold-down freight clips.?

Thanks in advance.


Re: Full Sheet Plywood - Slider size

 

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For full size sheets, Bigger is better! ???? ?Great illustration David.

Wade

On Jun 11, 2023, at 12:09 AM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

?I made a short video that illustrates how a 2500mm sliding table relates to a 4x8 sheet of plywood and the resulting restrictions for clamping accessories. ?You can see it here: ??



David Best
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https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best





On Jun 10, 2023, at 5:51 PM, abruptlly via groups.io <abruptlly@...> wrote:

Just a quick question for those who have entertained the same.

Is it possible to rip full sheets of plywood with the 2500mm slider?

Or do you need the 2800mm size minimum?

Thanks


Re: Full Sheet Plywood - Slider size

 

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Bill,

That’s sounds great! ?Should be a game changer for me when get my pair of Mac’s clamps in about a week. ?

Wade

On Jun 11, 2023, at 12:09 AM, Bill Belanger <bllblngr@...> wrote:

?
The 2800 allows for two of Mac’s clamps which are pretty much essential.?

Bill Belanger


On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 21:17 Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
I’m with Mark, wouldn’t want anything less than 2800mm.? I have a 3200mm, it’s great for full sheet processing. ?

Wade

On Jun 10, 2023, at 5:52 PM, abruptlly via <abruptlly=[email protected]> wrote:

?Just a quick question for those who have entertained the same.

Is it possible to rip full sheets of plywood with the 2500mm slider?

Or do you need the 2800mm size minimum?

Thanks


Re: Full Sheet Plywood - Slider size

 

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I made a short video that illustrates how a 2500mm sliding table relates to a 4x8 sheet of plywood and the resulting restrictions for clamping accessories. ?You can see it here: ??



David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best





On Jun 10, 2023, at 5:51 PM, abruptlly via groups.io <abruptlly@...> wrote:

Just a quick question for those who have entertained the same.

Is it possible to rip full sheets of plywood with the 2500mm slider?

Or do you need the 2800mm size minimum?

Thanks


Re: Full Sheet Plywood - Slider size

 

The 2800 allows for two of Mac’s clamps which are pretty much essential.?

Bill Belanger


On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 21:17 Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
I’m with Mark, wouldn’t want anything less than 2800mm.? I have a 3200mm, it’s great for full sheet processing. ?

Wade

On Jun 10, 2023, at 5:52 PM, abruptlly via <abruptlly=[email protected]> wrote:

?Just a quick question for those who have entertained the same.

Is it possible to rip full sheets of plywood with the 2500mm slider?

Or do you need the 2800mm size minimum?

Thanks


Re: Digital measurement for cross cut fence #rebuilding

 

Many Thanks!

Svante


Re: Full Sheet Plywood - Slider size

 

Hi ?Abruptlly
As Mark and Wade said, here's a little more info...
I think 2500 will fit a sheet but little or no space for other apparatus like Mac's clamps.
My first sliding table was 2800 and although that allowed a full sheet and Mac's clamps, it was still pretty tight and I always thought the next size up would be better.
Last year I lucked out and was able to upgrade to a longer table.? Although the 3200 is spacious, you do need a bit more space to fully extend the table both sides of the blade.? Having said that it's a dream to use, and especially nice having the extra length when ripping those longer boards.??
Lastly, see if it's possible to have a "play" with one. (I'm in the middle of the North Island of NZ if that helps)
Cheers
David


Re: Full Sheet Plywood - Slider size

 

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I’m with Mark, wouldn’t want anything less than 2800mm. ?I have a 3200mm, it’s great for full sheet processing. ?

Wade

On Jun 10, 2023, at 5:52 PM, abruptlly via groups.io <abruptlly@...> wrote:

?Just a quick question for those who have entertained the same.

Is it possible to rip full sheets of plywood with the 2500mm slider?

Or do you need the 2800mm size minimum?

Thanks


AD941 Freight Clips

 

Hey There,

I'm potentially looking at re-palletizing my AD941 for an up-comming move (easier to move on a pallet). Chasing if anyone has a set of the AD941 hold-down freight clips.?

Thanks in advance.


Re: Felder AD 741 vs Hammer A3-41

 

Okay.. having used an A3-31 then upgrading to a used AD741 (green and grey model) I can add my 2 cents:

- Benefits of the AD741

heavier machine at 550kg (excellent pressed steel, beefy cast iron top, very stable.
4 point table, as people have mentioned, this is way better than a single point table.
electronic drive - once you start using the electric rise and fall, you will never go back to the manual hand wind!
straight blades - no biggie, I had straight knives on mine.. got a custom made spiral head and swapped them over. Takes an afternoon and it’s a good time to give the machine an overhaul and calibration.?


overall, I definitely recommend the upgrade. I am lucky my machine is a 4hp single phase which meant I could still use it in my home garage.


Re: Full Sheet Plywood - Slider size

 

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I am not sure, but I have a 2800 and wouldn’t want to go down to the 2500. Room for clamps ect.

Mark Foster


On Jun 10, 2023, at 17:52, abruptlly via groups.io <abruptlly@...> wrote:

?Just a quick question for those who have entertained the same.

Is it possible to rip full sheets of plywood with the 2500mm slider?

Or do you need the 2800mm size minimum?

Thanks

--
Mark Foster


Re: F700Z or F700M + Tenoning Slider Table/Aigner Contermax

 
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Hi Albert,
If I’m understanding this correctly your bump stop positions the table for different length tenons and then you have to move the length stop on the cross fence for different lengths. If that’s correct seems like your material has to be precut to length then move the stop on the cross fence every time length changes?
Maybe I’m missing something.

With the bump stop on the other end you just cut all the parts to length, hit the bump stop not using the stops on the cross fence. Very fast and simple.

Martin and other German and Italian makers used to put saw blades on shapers that would swing in like a power feed. In that case the bump stop was not used the tenon length is set with the saw blade and the fence set tolength. Accurate length and tenon in one operation. Martin just recently quit putting the Festo cross fence with 3 positions so frame and sash could be made in one setting. It was irrelevant without the saw blade.
Modern Euro tenoners work without bump stops as the sawblade and cross fence move in conjunction with each other.
See pictures.
SCM has a really slick small single end tenoner that would be good for the small Joinery shop. The Ten 220. It has interchangeable shafts and the saw blade has mechanical digital readout.