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Re: Scissor lift

 

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Had old timer hefty Herman for 20 plus years. ? Very handy for construction an in shop work this one was great but to big
For in shop would m love one of those Skyjack the very small one !! By used they are simple mechanics .





martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 24, 2023, at 12:09 PM, Shinta Wakahisa via groups.io <vnh84@...> wrote:

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Good morning,

With this group, I figured someone has experience with these heavy equipment.??

Skylar, thank you for your offer.? I haven't looked at anything in person.? I found a used Genie 1930 on CL, look good, but it sold before I can get to it.? Base on my reading online, Skyjack is the one to get because of what you said; simple, well made, easy to service.? After writing to the regional sale rep for Skyjack (I am in Northern CA), I received a reply.? He said that lead time is until Q1 2024 for a Skyjack 2630.? He sent my contact to the local dealers.? I haven't heard anything back for a few weeks now.? I have been browsing CL, looking at Bay Area and Sacramento.? It's slim picking, but better than last year is my impression.? On that topic, my local tractor dealer has a lot more machines on the lot now than in 2022.? There are dealers advertising on CL from out of state.? I am not sure if I want to buy a lift from afar.? Having a relationship with a local shop is likely important for future service need.? Could you write to the group and tell us how to evaluate a used slab scissor lift???

I believe a xx30 spec allows it to go through an average-width door.? The immediate tasks are electrical wiring, duct work, and sheetrock or skinning the walls with 3/4 plywood.? With the shop expansion, we add a room for my wife's crafts.? She wants it finished, so I will be hanging sheetrock for that room.? The shop will get 3/4 plywood for the walls.??

I will checkout Ritchie Bros auctions and may talk to the local United Rentals.? I feel that used equipment from rental yard is abused, so haven't really look closely at the option.??

Alex, that sounds like a deal.? I am not that adventurous as I am not knowledgeable about fixing these sort of things and don't have a lot of time to tinker too long.? Maybe someday!? I have a forklift.? It's your warehouse 5K Hyster.? I love this thing.? I have a man-basket for it, got it for cheap because someone wanted it gone, but it requires my wife to be around to drive me around the shop floor.? We have fun together, but she has things she needs to do as well.??

Ray, I live on a rural property with lots of oak trees.? A lot of them are dying from a fire 6 years ago.? We need a boom lift to get up to trim the dead branches off to try to avoid them falling, splitting the branch/trunk and put the tree at risk for rot.? It is sad when a 100+ year old tree falls.? Even used, a 45-50 ft boom lift, electric or diesel/electric lift is pricey.? The ones I see currently asking 38K (A JLG 450A for instance).? Saving my pennies!? For now, I use a man basket with a track loader with forks.? It gets me to about 12 feet.??

Thanks guys!

SW

Re: Scissor lift

 
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Good morning,

With this group, I figured someone has experience with these heavy equipment.??

Skylar, thank you for your offer.? I haven't looked at anything in person.? I found a used Genie 1930 on CL, look good, but it sold before I can get to it.? Base on my reading online, Skyjack is the one to get because of what you said; simple, well made, easy to service.? After writing to the regional sale rep for Skyjack (I am in Northern CA), I received a reply.? He said that lead time is until Q1 2024 for a Skyjack 2630.? He sent my contact to the local dealers.? I haven't heard anything back for a few weeks now.? I have been browsing CL, looking at Bay Area and Sacramento.? It's slim picking, but better than last year is my impression.? On that topic, my local tractor dealer has a lot more machines on the lot now than in 2022.? There are dealers advertising on CL from out of state.? I am not sure if I want to buy a lift from afar.? Having a relationship with a local shop is likely important for future service need.? Could you write to the group and tell us how to evaluate a used slab scissor lift???

I believe a xx30 spec allows it to go through an average-width door.? The immediate tasks are electrical wiring, duct work, and sheetrock or skinning the walls with 3/4 plywood.? With the shop expansion, we add a room for my wife's crafts.? She wants it finished, so I will be hanging sheetrock for that room.? The shop will get 3/4 plywood for the walls.??

I will checkout Ritchie Bros auctions and may talk to the local United Rentals.? I feel that used equipment from rental yard is abused, so haven't really look closely at the option.??

Alex, that sounds like a deal.? I am not that adventurous as I am not knowledgeable about fixing these sort of things and don't have a lot of time to tinker too long.? Maybe someday!? I have a forklift.? It's your warehouse 5K Hyster.? I love this thing.? I have a man-basket for it, got it for cheap because someone wanted it gone, but it requires my wife to be around to drive me around the shop floor.? We have fun together, but she has things she needs to do as well.??

Ray, I live on a rural property with lots of oak trees.? A lot of them are dying from a fire 6 years ago.? We need a boom lift to get up to trim the dead branches off to try to avoid them falling, splitting the branch/trunk and put the tree at risk for rot.? It is sad when a 100+ year old tree falls.? Even used, a 45-50 ft boom lift, electric or diesel/electric lift is pricey.? The ones I see currently asking 38K (A JLG 450A for instance).? Saving my pennies!? For now, I use a man basket with a track loader with forks.? It gets me to about 12 feet.??

Thanks guys!

SW
Re: Scissor lift

 

We have 18' ceilings in our 40x100 shop. Would have a scissor lift if we could afford the floor space to park it in addition to our forklift. We had a big overhead project last year removing a bus bar and installing a Big Ass Fan. Looked into rental cost for a couple of weeks, and decided to build a cage/work platform for the forklift. This of course requires two people to be present, but that's not a bad idea anyway. One of my shopmates had a bad fall from a ladder in the shop 2 years ago moving lumber.

My lumber supplier buddy got a good deal on a JLG from our rental place a couple years ago. They turn over used equipment pretty regularly. Might want to check that as an option.?

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
Re: Scissor lift

 

I tell everyone that owns a scissor or an electric boom, the batteries are the single most important part of the machine. If you don’t take care of them, you will run into many problems in the future. The contactor fails, then the motor to start. Scissor lifts are 24v DC with 4 6v deep cycle batteries. Check the date on them and always be wary of mismatched sets.?


Skylar
For sale Altendorf F-45

 

I was not interested in the saw, I got the jointer. I took some pics of the saw however when I was there, if anyone is interested. It is older and has phenolic bearing races on the slider.? Tom Ruth



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Re: KF700S assembly warning stickers

 

A Felder tech confirmed both stickers were for the same two trunnion?locking bolts. Thanks!


On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 5:40?PM Steven B <sb@...> wrote:
Matt,

These stickers refer to the shipping bolts which lock the trunnion in place during shipping. You'll need to remove these so you can use the arbor tilt. Do not attempt to tilt the arbor without removing these first.

Best,
Steve
Re: Scissor lift

 

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Hi SW,

I have a 2018 model Skyjack SJIII 3219. ?It is all electric over hydraulic, powered by four 12 volt wet cell batteries. ?I got it used, for the hassle of hauling it away. ?The wheel lock cylinder had failed, causing the wheels to be locked so that it could not be moved without a forklift. ?

It cost me $20 for the kit to repair the seals in the wheel lock cylinder. ?All I have done since is replace the batteries. ?It has lots of safety features that prevent you from getting in trouble. ?For example, if you are on a side slope, like the concrete apron of my shop, it will only allow you to raise the platform part ways. ?It detects the slope and won’t allow you to put it in danger of tipping over. ?The platform is 29” by about 60’, extendable to about 96” with a 39” tall railing. ?The platform will raise to 19’ high, allowing most people to reach about 26’. ?The extension is part of the platform that you simply push out to its stopping point. ?It allows you to raise the deck above a table or piece of equipment, then push the deck out so you can reach areas high above and over equipment.

My shop has 16’ ceilings. ?I too considered renting, and had started looking to purchase when this one came around. ?I used if to install the 5/8” x 4’x12’ sheetrock on the shop ceilings and walls. ?It is invaluable for installing and changing dust collector plumbing.

Mine has hard, solid wheels that work well on concrete or asphalt. ?It is not good on soft earth or loose gravel. ?I think it weighs in at about 5,000 pounds. ?It has forklift pockets built into the chassis, so it is easily loaded and unloaded if a forklift is available. ?As a bonus, my forklift will lift 11,000 pounds 16’ high. ?So combined, I should be able to get the platform up to around 35’. ?I haven’t found anyone willing to try it yet. ?

Without a forklift, it is a royal pain to load and unload unless you have a tilt bed trailer. ?It is very easily high centered due to its very minimal ground clearance.

My shop is 40’x60’. ?It is full of equipment. However the skyjack is pretty nimble and easy to maneuver in tight spaces. ?In my opinion, anything larger would be too big for a shop my size. ?It has one “flaw” that takes some getting used to. ?It will go up as slowly as you like. ?The speed with which it raises the platform is dependent upon the load. ?It slows when near max weight limit. ?Down is another matter. ?It goes down at the same rate, no matter how you try to feather the controls. ?It’s not a free fall, but it doesn’t have the ability to creep down like you can creep up.

Mine has two wheel steering. ?If I had a choice, I would prefer a unit with four wheel steering. ?Nice to have if you can get it. ?Might make a difference in a congested shop.

Put simply, the Skyjack SJIII 3219 is a nice machine that enables me to do a lot of the work I would otherwise have had to hire out.I don’t know where you are, but Richie Brothers auctioneers commonly have these units available. ?I would check their website if you are anywhere near one of their auction yards.

Good luck,

Alex


On May 23, 2023, at 4:58 PM, Shinta Wakahisa via groups.io <vnh84@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,
I just about finish a shop addition and will have a 13.5-foot ceiling.? Climbing up and down ladders gets old real quick not to mention it is a bit scary working on such a tall ladder, so looking into a slab scissor lift.? 2632, 26-ft rise, 32-inch platform width seems ideal.? The 1932 isn't much cheaper.? Genie, Skyjack, JLG, etc.? Old vs new?? Anyone has gone through this and has some sage advice to impart?? I would love to hear.? Thought about rent, but would rather have one on hand for future use.??
Thanks!
SW

Re: Scissor lift

 

Hi SW,

I’ve also been looking at scissor lifts (even toyed with the idea of a boom lift (!) until the Mrs vetoed that dream super fast).?I’ve been watching various Ritchie Bros auction sites but as Skylar notes below, used equipment is insanely expensive right now.?
I think the rent vs buy options simply depend on your use case. I will need the lift long enough to justify buying a used lift. For one, I want to finish a large pole barn inside and reskin the outside. And with a full time day job, it will take me months.?
I would recommend watching the auctions, contact your local United Rentals and find out how they dispose their equipment, etc. Now is a generally terrible time to buy machinery.?

I have a neighbor who owns a 500 lb capacity JLG and loves it.?
Re: Scissor lift

 

Shinta,

? ? Longtime lurker and prospective fielder owner in Portland Oregon. I work on scissor lifts, boom lifts, forklifts for a living. Where are you looking? Have you looked at anything in person yet? The used equipment market is ridiculous right now due to the lead times for new equipment from all manufacturers. Skyjack makes an excellent product. Easy to work on, parts are easy to get, and are ?a very well made machine. I would be happy to help you (or anyone else on the forum) any way I can.?


Skylar Reyburn
Re: Shaper cutters to replace router bits #shapertools

 

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It’s pretty interesting what router options are available in Europe. ?Here’s a link to some tilting router lifts…


Then there are interesting and super capable router table options, like this from RUWI.



Not everything requires a shaper. ?And when you consider the time to cross over from a saw/shaper combination, a dedicated router table can be a real boon. ?Especially when accompanied by a great fence, like the Incra, which gives you real repeatability and the ability to advance/retract the fence in a known amount of travel...

On May 23, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Joe Kurtz <jkurtz505@...> wrote:

I have a 2005 KF700 w/ 600sqft if space. I regularly switch out the spindles. It takes a ~5 minutes and then I have a sliding router table that goes 15k rpm AND tilts. No router and lift table is going to do that. The router spindle in a smaller hobbyist shop is worth it for floor space imo. Everything I can't do or don't want to change out the spindle for (rarely) I can do by hand or on a track.

Re: Shaper cutters to replace router bits #shapertools

 

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Today I needed to cut a tongue and groove to assemble a new steam box. ?I was looking forward to using my new adjustable groover (6.4mm-12mm) but the spacers did not come with it. ?I immediately went in to call Felder and order some spacers. ?Tried twice through sales (going to order that 12-20mm groover as well). ?On hold for 5 minutes, then immediately to voicemail with a message to call on a cell phone if you want to talk immediately. ?Of course, this dude has not called me back the last time I dealt with him. ?Call back and ask for Liz. ?Go to voicemail with no greeting as to who it is. ?So I call back, ask for technical service. ?Say that I need the spacers for the part number. ?Wait — I need your customer number. ?Don’t have it. ?3 minutes of them looking it up. ?In the meantime, I log into their website and give the customer number. ?I need the spacers for the adjustable groover for circular saws. ?Wait, I need to know what machine this is for. ?More malarkey. ?Finally she says I have to get a tech. ?By this time, I’ve wasted 20 minutes. ?I wait for another 5. ?She comes back and says no technician is available, I’ll put in a ticket and they will call you tomorrow.

I go back to the shop. ?I start to disassemble the saw to mount the Forrest dado stack. ?That requires removing the saw blade. ?And replacing the table insert. ?And then figuring out how much to recalibrate the cross cut fence so that I know where to cut the groove and the rebate.

Wait a minute! ?I can do this on my router table with an intra fence. ?It was done perfectly in 15 minutes.

There’s a place for a router table with a good fence. ?At least in my opinion.

YMMV

Mike

On May 23, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Joe Kurtz <jkurtz505@...> wrote:

I have a 2005 KF700 w/ 600sqft if space. I regularly switch out the spindles. It takes a ~5 minutes and then I have a sliding router table that goes 15k rpm AND tilts. No router and lift table is going to do that. The router spindle in a smaller hobbyist shop is worth it for floor space imo. Everything I can't do or don't want to change out the spindle for (rarely) I can do by hand or on a track.

Scissor lift

 

Hello everyone,
I just about finish a shop addition and will have a 13.5-foot ceiling.? Climbing up and down ladders gets old real quick not to mention it is a bit scary working on such a tall ladder, so looking into a slab scissor lift.? 2632, 26-ft rise, 32-inch platform width seems ideal.? The 1932 isn't much cheaper.? Genie, Skyjack, JLG, etc.? Old vs new?? Anyone has gone through this and has some sage advice to impart?? I would love to hear.? Thought about rent, but would rather have one on hand for future use.??
Thanks!
SW

Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

To follow up on my issue: I had loosened the hinge securing bolt on the infeed hinge so much that the infeed table had fallen away and skewed pretty significantly away from the operator side. Consequently the hinge side had been raised so high by this, that when I lowered everything down by the height adjustment knob as the baseline to start my adjustments to bring the infeed table in plane with the outfeed, i had to go near the end of the travel of the adjustment knob, and the cascade continued until I had everything coplanar but couldn't adjust the height very much.

Everything is coplanar and adjusting fine now. So back to my project and thanks for your help.

NB: I had loosened the hinge side so much because previous adjustments had stripped the M6 nut so severely that I figured now would be a good time to do a small amount of surgery to replace the nut and start fresh. I have no idea why Felder moved away from this design for raising the hinge side but the careful balance between hinge bolts and jackscrews seems unnecessarily fragile from what is otherwise an effective way to make these adjustments.

Re: Shaper cutters to replace router bits #shapertools

 

I have a 2005 KF700 w/ 600sqft if space. I regularly switch out the spindles. It takes a ~5 minutes and then I have a sliding router table that goes 15k rpm AND tilts. No router and lift table is going to do that. The router spindle in a smaller hobbyist shop is worth it for floor space imo. Everything I can't do or don't want to change out the spindle for (rarely) I can do by hand or on a track.

Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

I think you may be correct. The measurements were made with the clamping locked down tight - I may be twisting the table. I will loosen the clamp first and take more measurements.

Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm #forsale

 

Thank you all, and thank you David and Dr. Lucky for the images, measurements, and recommendations - they are all extremely helpful! I appreciate this group's constant support and input. Your in-depth analysis and experience is exceptional. Thank you for sharing it with us all.

Thank you,
Steve

Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

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As Brian says any deflection with tighting the table is bad sign ,what ever you do in one corner it moves the opposite corner at bias.
Tables should sit on ?temples zero zip no play

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 23, 2023, at 7:50 AM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:

?Infeed ?adjust the hinge side co plane to out feed hinge edge than adjust temple bolts on operator side .

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 22, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Michael Gottlieb <westernsac@...> wrote:

?Thanks Brian,
Obviously when I reinstalled the infeed table after installing the Shelix head, I thru the infeed table out of alignment.

I remeasured both tables according to your drawing and came up with the following:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Point 1: .043 +/-
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Point 2: .001 +/-
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Point 3: .086 +/-
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Point 4: .001 +/-
It's interesting that the two tables are close at the rear, but off at the front. I will have to think about my next step.

Re: Shaper cutters to replace router bits #shapertools

 

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I think 125 diameter is largest cutter under table to tilt with felder 700 series other wise nice size not to big or small , get run bearing to match 2 can be handy for tenons or high profiling.

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 23, 2023, at 5:54 AM, Andy <andy.raynor08@...> wrote:

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The INCRA router table is amazing. I have a shaper. It’s great for larger work but I find a router table indispensable in the work I do.?

The INCRA can do so many things, and being able to hog out rebates and grooves on the shaper then go directly to the router table is a big plus for my individual workflow.?

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:58 PM Brandon Nickel <brandon.nickel@...> wrote:
Thanks for the input so far. It sounds like the group consensus would be to continue to use my router for the things it's good at. I built a very simple MDF table with a lift and homemade fence about 15 years ago. I was planning a serious upgrade like an Incra prior to buying the KF700. An Incra top and fence will run me almost as much as the Felder high speed spindle, not to mention still taking up about a 2'x3' footprint. I can certainly understand that removing the Aigner fence will be a PITA if I just need to use the saw briefly.?

Floor space is getting to be a premium. I just brought home a 3' x 5' granite surface plate that I need to work into the floor plan. Hmmm....

Re: A3-31 setup and calibration

 

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Infeed ?adjust the hinge side co plane to out feed hinge edge than adjust temple bolts on operator side .

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 22, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Michael Gottlieb <westernsac@...> wrote:

?Thanks Brian,
Obviously when I reinstalled the infeed table after installing the Shelix head, I thru the infeed table out of alignment.

I remeasured both tables according to your drawing and came up with the following:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Point 1: .043 +/-
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Point 2: .001 +/-
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Point 3: .086 +/-
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Point 4: .001 +/-
It's interesting that the two tables are close at the rear, but off at the front. I will have to think about my next step.

Re: Shaper cutters to replace router bits #shapertools

 

The INCRA router table is amazing. I have a shaper. It’s great for larger work but I find a router table indispensable in the work I do.?

The INCRA can do so many things, and being able to hog out rebates and grooves on the shaper then go directly to the router table is a big plus for my individual workflow.?

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:58 PM Brandon Nickel <brandon.nickel@...> wrote:
Thanks for the input so far. It sounds like the group consensus would be to continue to use my router for the things it's good at. I built a very simple MDF table with a lift and homemade fence about 15 years ago. I was planning a serious upgrade like an Incra prior to buying the KF700. An Incra top and fence will run me almost as much as the Felder high speed spindle, not to mention still taking up about a 2'x3' footprint. I can certainly understand that removing the Aigner fence will be a PITA if I just need to use the saw briefly.?

Floor space is getting to be a premium. I just brought home a 3' x 5' granite surface plate that I need to work into the floor plan. Hmmm....

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