CF731 thicknsser belt issue
Hi
my CF731 thicknesser stopped feeding stock this morning. I'm assuming its a drive belt issue.If I could only find my Survival Guide I'd seek help in it but I've searched high and low and there is no sign of it. ISTR it is available in PDF format on line . Is this correct ? If I had it would it help me with this issue?
Are there any videos on changing the belt available ? I've had a search under different search terms but nothing came up.
Is it a tedious job? I had a bad fall 3 months back and neither of my hands are back to full function yet but if someone could point me in the general direction I'd call in a service engineer. There are no Felder savvy engineers in this neck of the wood so if I knew what was involved I could perhaps talk a general wood working machinery mechanic through it before he started dismantling everything.
Many thanks for any help,offered
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Paul Mc Cann
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I hope I don't need any baltic any time soon. $198! Wow. That's about what the Europly was a sheet with a 10 sheet minimum. Their core was imported too so it'll be going up as well. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Clamps and accessories
? David,
If someone was going to build your proposed manual clamp, what would be an appropriate thickness for an HDPE plinth block?
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 16, 2022, at 7:24 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? The challenge with the Kreg clamp (or any of the auto-adjusting types) is how to lock them down to a T-nut in the sliding table. ?That securing bolt is under the clamping arm, and comes up from below. ?So to have positioning flexibility, it would need to be loose enough to slide along the table. ?What you’d really want is a locking device that’s on top - something like a Kipp lever. ?If I were doing this, I’d mount the clamp to a plinth block that can accommodate a Kipp lever from above going down to a T-nut below. ? Like this:
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
Thank you David,
For me, I’m sold on the Kreg KBC3 automaxx clamps and adapting them to a metal T-nut. ?My thought are with metal only versus anything else, only because I want to get them made and then move on. ?They're a great clamp. ?This way I get things building again, which means I’m making money to save for Mac’s clamps down the road. ?
Wade
? Wade & John,
I posted earlier that there are no commercially available T-nuts that fit the Felder X-Roll sliding table slots. ?You can make your own from a variety of materials and components, or ask one of the people here who are equipped with mills, to make one for your if you want one make of metal. ?I disagree with a previous post that steel is inappropriate for this application - if the T-nut is machined correctly, steel or stainless or brass or bronze, or titanium are all fine and don’t have to destroy your sliding table T-slot. ?If you need a metal t-nut or two, DM me - I make custom stuff like that all the time for FOG members.
I also posted a link to a drawing earlier showing the dimension of the Felder supplied T-nuts, so if you want to make your own, you know what fits. ???
Yes, you can make them out of flat material if you don’t need them locked down with precise registration - like on the short crosscut fence application. ?Lots of people here have made them out of hardwood or plywood with a steel conventional T-nut such as the ones below inserted into the wood base. ?Others have made similar units using a plastic like HDPE (cutting board material) or Delrin. ?It all depends on the application and what you’re trying to secure to the slider.
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Also, lots of people have adapted various hand-actuated clamps to the sliding table including the Bessey and Kreg auto-adjusting clamps.
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You might also want to acquaint yourself with this if you’re considering a short crosscut fence and it’s locked-down T-nut.
I’ve been hunting for T-slot nuts for the k700s and McMaster Carr, just emailed me a response that basically said they can’t help me. ?Strange, because I just watched a video where this person bought them from McMaster. ?I even sent them my exact dimensions of the Felder supplied t nut.?
? The price on the Felder store is for one nut. I've spent a good amount of time trying to find and off-the-shelf nut from McMaster and Grainger, and ordered a couple I thought might work. I've been unsuccessful so far. Most tee (off-the-shelf) nuts are designed for use in cast iron (it seems). I wonder if I missed getting necessary accessories, like clamps and a ripping shoe, when I ordered my saw. I’ll chalk that up to not knowing much about the saw when I bought it.
I see that the Felder store is out of tee-nuts for the slider groove. They want $35, but it is not clear whether that is one nut or a handful. Any other sources for this sort of thing?
What are the dimensions of the tee-nuts? There is a wide variety of tee-nuts available through Grainger and Other industrial supply places, or I could have someone make a few for me, but I would have to know what dimensions to look for.
Thanks for any guidance!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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I’ve been working with a large order of Columbia’s Europly plus (birch core) which in my case has walnut veneer (prefinished).? I paid $300 sheet last summer.? It’s a very good product (although pretty thin surface veneer).? I suspect it’d be significantly more to order today but I think it’s a great option for this style of sheet good.? I’m not sure how available the brand is outside of the NW.
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 7:58 AM Bob Wise < bob@...> wrote: I just paid over $300 for a sheet of Appleply 3/4. Ouch. The 1" was $350.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:31 PM john adank < lseap107@...> wrote: I paid $39.58 for a 5’x5’ of 1/4” BB last week.? The lumberyard told me 3/4” is extremely hard to get right now
John Adank Onalaska, WI On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:42 PM, SirRey <sirrey@...> wrote:
?So, I’m guessing Russian / baltic Birch is going to shoot through the roof even more so in price. Anyone have an alternative in the US?
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Re: Efficient Method to Wrap Plywood with Solid Wood
Block planes are closely scrutinized in the bamboo fly rod making community.? The Lee Valley above is popular, but the Lie-Nielsen 60-1/2 is king.? I no longer hand plane strips, but have a 60-1/2 from my early days.? I still use it for clean-up on bamboo strips.? Looks like it ony comes with the A2 blade which is what I like anywy.
I sort f feel guilty using it for general woodworking, but is just sooooo nice.
Jerry
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Recent prices here in the Denver area:? $55 1/4" 5x5? ?$175 3/4" 5x5 for baltic
I have statrted subsituting cherry for paint grade rails/stiles as hard mpale is over $9/bd ft and cherry is 40% less.
Jerry
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Re: Has anyone received a new Format 4 machine with the new touchpad?
Albert,
You inspired me from an email exchange a while ago.? I have already emailed Carl to see if it is a running change or not and If I can get it with the new touchscreen.
I am also in no hurry, I hope it isn't too late in the cycle though.
Fingers crossed.
PK
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$300 for a single sheet is amazing! I cannot imagine paying that.
Of course, I am the parsimonious kind of guy that picks over the cull pile at Home Depot too.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Now a Felder Owner, with a K700S at the local freight terminal and a A941 expected in April 2022
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She has Sold.??
The wait begins.
PK
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I just paid over $300 for a sheet of Appleply 3/4. Ouch. The 1" was $350.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:31 PM john adank < lseap107@...> wrote: I paid $39.58 for a 5’x5’ of 1/4” BB last week.? The lumberyard told me 3/4” is extremely hard to get right now
John Adank Onalaska, WI On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:42 PM, SirRey <sirrey@...> wrote:
?So, I’m guessing Russian / baltic Birch is going to shoot through the roof even more so in price. Anyone have an alternative in the US?
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Re: Has anyone received a new Format 4 machine with the new touchpad?
PK. Get in touch with your Felder, you might be able to get it updated, if so, you may have to pay a small fee… being Felder.?
When I ordered my L’Invincibile si X last July it was still with the old control panel. 2-3 months after the order was placed they announced the new control panel. I contacted my SCM agent, got a response the next day, free of charge ( I added other accessories) to have it upgraded but just have to wait extra 2-3 months due to COVID delays.?
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I miss that place! Ever since I moved to Seattle for work I haven’t been back. I’ll have to stop in next time I go visit my parents.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:20 PM Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote: David, I have been getting it from The Hardwood Center in Corvallis, so good chance I can source it. I have stopped using Hardwood Industries here in Bend do to poor unfriendly service.
Mark? ?Thanks David, I will ask my supplier about that.?
Mark ?Mark, Murphy makes a version of ApplePly with thicker exterior veneers.? No idea if it’s available in your market, but it’s my go-to version here in Portland.
My wholesale price on 19mm ?A-A grade veneer has gone up to $185.? It was $98 3 years ago and is made within 100 miles of my place.
On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:58 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
I paid 135.00 for B/BB grade 12mm last week. I was told that there was only 30 sheets of this size and grade on the West Coast.?
Apple Ply is good but the face is very thin like normal ply. I know of nothing with face thickness of BB, if someone does please share.
Mark Foster On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:42 PM, SirRey < sirrey@...> wrote:
So, I’m guessing Russian / baltic Birch is going to shoot through the roof even more so in price. Anyone have an alternative in the US?
-- Mark Foster
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David, I have been getting it from The Hardwood Center in Corvallis, so good chance I can source it. I have stopped using Hardwood Industries here in Bend do to poor unfriendly service.
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On Feb 26, 2022, at 20:17, Mark Foster via groups.io <mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
? Thanks David, I will ask my supplier about that.?
Mark On Feb 26, 2022, at 20:10, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? Mark, Murphy makes a version of ApplePly with thicker exterior veneers. ?No idea if it’s available in your market, but it’s my go-to version here in Portland.
My wholesale price on 19mm ?A-A grade veneer has gone up to $185. ?It was $98 3 years ago and is made within 100 miles of my place.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:58 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
I paid 135.00 for B/BB grade 12mm last week. I was told that there was only 30 sheets of this size and grade on the West Coast.?
Apple Ply is good but the face is very thin like normal ply. I know of nothing with face thickness of BB, if someone does please share.
Mark Foster On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:42 PM, SirRey < sirrey@...> wrote:
So, I’m guessing Russian / baltic Birch is going to shoot through the roof even more so in price. Anyone have an alternative in the US?
-- Mark Foster
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Mark Foster
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Thanks David, I will ask my supplier about that.?
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On Feb 26, 2022, at 20:10, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? Mark, Murphy makes a version of ApplePly with thicker exterior veneers. ?No idea if it’s available in your market, but it’s my go-to version here in Portland.
My wholesale price on 19mm ?A-A grade veneer has gone up to $185. ?It was $98 3 years ago and is made within 100 miles of my place.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:58 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
I paid 135.00 for B/BB grade 12mm last week. I was told that there was only 30 sheets of this size and grade on the West Coast.?
Apple Ply is good but the face is very thin like normal ply. I know of nothing with face thickness of BB, if someone does please share.
Mark Foster On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:42 PM, SirRey < sirrey@...> wrote:
So, I’m guessing Russian / baltic Birch is going to shoot through the roof even more so in price. Anyone have an alternative in the US?
-- Mark Foster
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Mark Foster
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Mark, Murphy makes a version of ApplePly with thicker exterior veneers. ?No idea if it’s available in your market, but it’s my go-to version here in Portland.
My wholesale price on 19mm ?A-A grade veneer has gone up to $185. ?It was $98 3 years ago and is made within 100 miles of my place.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:58 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
I paid 135.00 for B/BB grade 12mm last week. I was told that there was only 30 sheets of this size and grade on the West Coast.?
Apple Ply is good but the face is very thin like normal ply. I know of nothing with face thickness of BB, if someone does please share.
Mark Foster On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:42 PM, SirRey < sirrey@...> wrote:
So, I’m guessing Russian / baltic Birch is going to shoot through the roof even more so in price. Anyone have an alternative in the US?
-- Mark Foster
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Here’s a link to the pamphlet/ply sample video I sent in a previous message. They compare hardness and density to Baltic birch and there’s a lot going for this product. Excited to try it out! If anyone local to Westfield, MA is interested in trying it out as a replacement for BB, I would be willing to resell a sheet.?
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On Feb 26, 2022, at 11:04 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk via groups.io <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? I just took delivery of a unit (36 sheets) uv1 maple from Atlantic for $100/sheet and 10 sheets of uv2 $107/sheet.? Also checked out this product called Husky all maple plywood. They had 9 sheets of old stock inventory for $116 each but sold all 9 to me at $98/sheet. The All maple ply really peaked my interest because it looks like a Baltic birch alternative and certainly was solid looking.?
On Feb 26, 2022, at 9:47 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?Thats nuts. Prefinished or standard?
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I just took delivery of a unit (36 sheets) uv1 maple from Atlantic for $100/sheet and 10 sheets of uv2 $107/sheet.? Also checked out this product called Husky all maple plywood. They had 9 sheets of old stock inventory for $116 each but sold all 9 to me at $98/sheet. The All maple ply really peaked my interest because it looks like a Baltic birch alternative and certainly was solid looking.?
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On Feb 26, 2022, at 9:47 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?Thats nuts. Prefinished or standard?
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Re: Wood Porn. I know you all appreciate it as much (more?) than the machines you have/use.
I suggest you slice the Maloof into 3/32 veneers.? It looks terrific and the provenance is over the top.
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Jason Holtz
PK
Albert Lee
Mark Foster
David P. Best
Dan Gavrilyuk
Jim Fleming