Re: 24” Panel Crafter Model 609
Thanks Cliff for mentioning the video. Lab coat, funny. But more importantly, they mentioned the part, brake, which should slide over this - see arrow:
It is missing. So for clarity, I have checked the panel centering function, pneumatic clamps and the valve that controls floatation. Floatation can be turned off and progressively increased. That is the extent of my checking.
So anyone interested please make sure of everything. It is being offered as is.
Imran
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 11:52 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. via groups.io <rohrabacher@...> wrote: ?I never heard fo that. Had to look it up and watch a video. Nice tool~!! I always get a kick out of marketing terms like "Surgical Steel" and "Aircraft Aluminum." On 2/17/22 8:27 PM, imranindiana wrote: ?more pics and video as the size got too big for the initial post.
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Re: Lucky's Latest 'Technique' article in Australian Wood Review
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Haha on the butt bar comment. Aussies rarely say “butt” as we prefer “bum”. But I figured “bum bar” wouldn’t wash. If I had any more English blood in me I’d have tried “arse bar” with the editor to see if that would slip through!
I regret those loose fitting jeans shorts now. Shoulda donned the pink tights!
Lucky
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First time I’ve seen the “butt bar” workflow accurately covered in a magazine - with photo. ?Seriously, this is a terrifically concise and practical article. ?
<image.png>David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 17, 2022, at 9:14 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
? Where can we find that article? Thanks? Bill Belanger
I’ll second that.? Great article - and especially helpful for someone new to the sliding table saw. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:54 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Lucky,
Very nice work!? You did an amazing job of articulating why we all love our sliders.? Also great to see the kappa 400 x-motion in pictures!??
Lots of shout outs to people on the FOG too! Mac's clamps, Brian's parallel Fence and lots of ideas from everyone too!
Thank you for adding value in the woodworking world!
PK
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Re: Hammer K3 and A3-31 Mobility kit / Casters
Do you have a few pictures of them installed on your machines??
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?I have some machines on Zambus CarryMasters...they work well.??
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Hi PK:
Thank you very much. I’ve enjoyed working on the two articles (calibrating and using) and tried to distill all the “goodies” for newbies that we talk about all the time here on the FOG but the wider users of sliders don’t know.
David Best was instrumental in his help in condensing the material, making the prose understandable, photo selection, etc. Thanks David!
And it made sense to single out Brian’s and Mac’s products specifically (Brian’s parallel fence is even heroed in the main photo). We have no local makers making what they make so it was easy to push Aussies in their direction! But damn the duty and taxes! LOL
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On 18 Feb 2022, at 2:54 pm, PK < pk@...> wrote:
Lucky,
Very nice work!? You did an amazing job of articulating why we all love our sliders.? Also great to see the kappa 400 x-motion in pictures!??
Lots of shout outs to people on the FOG too! Mac's clamps, Brian's parallel Fence and lots of ideas from everyone too!
Thank you for adding value in the woodworking world!
PK
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David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 17, 2022, at 9:14 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
? Where can we find that article? Thanks? Bill Belanger
I’ll second that.? Great article - and especially helpful for someone new to the sliding table saw. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:54 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Lucky,
Very nice work!? You did an amazing job of articulating why we all love our sliders.? Also great to see the kappa 400 x-motion in pictures!??
Lots of shout outs to people on the FOG too! Mac's clamps, Brian's parallel Fence and lots of ideas from everyone too!
Thank you for adding value in the woodworking world!
PK
PKwoodworking
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First time I’ve seen the “butt bar” workflow accurately covered in a magazine - with photo. ?Seriously, this is a terrifically concise and practical article. ?
 David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 9:14 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
? Where can we find that article? Thanks? Bill Belanger
I’ll second that.? Great article - and especially helpful for someone new to the sliding table saw. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:54 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Lucky,
Very nice work!? You did an amazing job of articulating why we all love our sliders.? Also great to see the kappa 400 x-motion in pictures!??
Lots of shout outs to people on the FOG too! Mac's clamps, Brian's parallel Fence and lots of ideas from everyone too!
Thank you for adding value in the woodworking world!
PK
PKwoodworking
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David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 9:14 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:
? Where can we find that article? Thanks? Bill Belanger
I’ll second that.? Great article - and especially helpful for someone new to the sliding table saw. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:54 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Lucky,
Very nice work!? You did an amazing job of articulating why we all love our sliders.? Also great to see the kappa 400 x-motion in pictures!??
Lots of shout outs to people on the FOG too! Mac's clamps, Brian's parallel Fence and lots of ideas from everyone too!
Thank you for adding value in the woodworking world!
PK
PKwoodworking
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Where can we find that article? Thanks? Bill Belanger
I’ll second that.? Great article - and especially helpful for someone new to the sliding table saw. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:54 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Lucky,
Very nice work!? You did an amazing job of articulating why we all love our sliders.? Also great to see the kappa 400 x-motion in pictures!??
Lots of shout outs to people on the FOG too! Mac's clamps, Brian's parallel Fence and lots of ideas from everyone too!
Thank you for adding value in the woodworking world!
PK
PKwoodworking
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I’ll second that. ?Great article - and especially helpful for someone new to the sliding table saw. ? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:54 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Lucky,
Very nice work!? You did an amazing job of articulating why we all love our sliders.? Also great to see the kappa 400 x-motion in pictures!??
Lots of shout outs to people on the FOG too! Mac's clamps, Brian's parallel Fence and lots of ideas from everyone too!
Thank you for adding value in the woodworking world!
PK
PKwoodworking
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Lucky's Latest 'Technique' article in Australian Wood Review
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Lucky,
Very nice work!? You did an amazing job of articulating why we all love our sliders.? Also great to see the kappa 400 x-motion in pictures!??
Lots of shout outs to people on the FOG too! Mac's clamps, Brian's parallel Fence and lots of ideas from everyone too!
Thank you for adding value in the woodworking world!
PK
PKwoodworking
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Re: 24” Panel Crafter Model 609
I never heard fo that.? Had to look it up and watch a video. Nice tool~!!
I always get a kick out of marketing terms like "Surgical Steel" and
"Aircraft Aluminum."
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On 2/17/22 8:27 PM, imranindiana wrote: ?more pics and video as the size got too big for the initial post.
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Re: T-nut for the sliding table
All X-Roll sliding tables on? the -500, -700, -900, and Kappa 400 machines?are made from the same aluminum extrusion (just different lengths), and thus the T-slots are identical. ?The Hammer and -550/590 series sliding tables differ from the aforementioned models.? David Best - Sent from my iPad
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Are the T-slot grooves the same in a K700S? ?I’d measure mine off the dimensions you sent, but I’m currently out of town. Headed back tomorrow though. ?I’d be interested!
Thx,
Wade On Feb 17, 2022, at 12:52 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? I had a custom shop make some steel t-nuts a few years ago after I got?my?KF700sp. Today, I found that I have extra 2 short t-nuts and 3 long t-nuts laying around unused. I use it with Kreg automaxx clamps, see pictures below. As I mentioned before, the automaxx clamp pulls the stock a bit when clamping it. As long as you have the plywood block placed against the stock being clamped, the stock will not move at all.
The short one is 70mm long, the long one is 120mm. All have 5/16"-18 thread.
I can offer it ($25 for short one, $40 for long one, plus shipping), I am in Ontario, Canada. I can get the shipping quote from Canada Post or your choice of carrier like Fedex and UPS. I heard the shipping cost from Canada Post is cheaper than Fedex and UPS here.
If you are interested, send me a private email.
James 
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Are the T-slot grooves the same in a K700S? ?I’d measure mine off the dimensions you sent, but I’m currently out of town. Headed back tomorrow though. ?I’d be interested!
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 12:52 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? I had a custom shop make some steel t-nuts a few years ago after I got?my?KF700sp. Today, I found that I have extra 2 short t-nuts and 3 long t-nuts laying around unused. I use it with Kreg automaxx clamps, see pictures below. As I mentioned before, the automaxx clamp pulls the stock a bit when clamping it. As long as you have the plywood block placed against the stock being clamped, the stock will not move at all.
The short one is 70mm long, the long one is 120mm. All have 5/16"-18 thread.
I can offer it ($25 for short one, $40 for long one, plus shipping), I am in Ontario, Canada. I can get the shipping quote from Canada Post or your choice of carrier like Fedex and UPS. I heard the shipping cost from Canada Post is cheaper than Fedex and UPS here.
If you are interested, send me a private email.
James 
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Re: 24” Panel Crafter Model 609
more pics and video as the size got too big for the initial post.
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24” Panel Crafter Model 609
I finally came across a panel crafter model 609
It floats on air. No templates are included. It is missing 4 knobs with 1/4-20 threads. The two threaded holes in the base are for attaching a coping fence (not included). The knob in the middle centers the panel via a rack & pinion mechanism.
It is built like a tank. It is used and condition is at least very good. A bit of wood is missing from one handle. Please see pics and video. $750 plus shipping from 46979.
Imran
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Re: Efficient Method to Wrap Plywood with Solid Wood
I first saw Michael Fortune use?Scott Grove's Ultimate Router base to rout the profile on the solid wood edging of his high end table top, then saw Matthew Cremona use it to make the round solid wood edging in the following youtube video.
I bought Scott Grove's book: Hardwood Edging and Inlay for Curved Tables, because I plan to do it in the future. Using the Ultimate Router base flush trim the solid edging is just one of the things you can do with it, it is long with some weight, very stable, no tipping.
James
I have used the Bosch Colt with a flush trim bit, although I do not have a fancy base. It takes a steady hand to keep from tipping the router and gouging the trim, but if you are careful it gets pretty close.
I usually wind up cleaning up spots with a plane after the router. I use a jack plane instead of a block plane though, as it seems more steady for me. I will sometimes run a strip of blue paint an inch off the trim and let the tail of the plane ride on that. It angles the plane off the tabletop surface, resulting in an imperceptible bevel on the trim, but helping keep the plane iron off the surface. Swinging the tail of the plane out over the tape changes the blade angle too, which is sometimes a good thing.
I really don’t like the trim proud of the surface!
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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I have used the Bosch Colt with a flush trim bit, although I do not have a fancy base. It takes a steady hand to keep from tipping the router and gouging the trim, but if you are careful it gets pretty close.
I usually wind up cleaning up spots with a plane after the router. I use a jack plane instead of a block plane though, as it seems more steady for me. I will sometimes run a strip of blue paint an inch off the trim and let the tail of the plane ride on that. It angles the plane off the tabletop surface, resulting in an imperceptible bevel on the trim, but helping keep the plane iron off the surface. Swinging the tail of the plane out over the tape changes the blade angle too, which is sometimes a good thing.
I really don’t like the trim proud of the surface!
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John Hinman
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Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Thanks James. This is just one project for my friend so will be a learning experience. On shaper, with PF I think I will get really close and if not the router option you and Jason mentioned is there.
Imran
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 5:48 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: ? Imran,
If you can rout the slot very precisely, sanding it to flush is doable. If you find you end up more than 1 mm over the table top, it would be a lot of sanding and tricky to get a perfect result.
If you think you will do more table with skirt boards, router planing or lipping planer is the way to go.
James Thank you all. I think I will go with ~3/16” slot an tenon. I am liking the router planing method but if I do my offset right, I may just be sanding it to finish.
James, my plan is to glue one long side. Use a short piece of edging with a miter cut for checking the alignment of miter joint at each corner. Then do the 2 short sides. All with smallest domino at the miter. I may have to shorten the dominos for the last long side but being only 1” wide, I should be able to bend it enough to fit. At least, that is what I am thinking.
Imran ?Don’t hardly do it anymore but my main bread and butter when i was 25 yrs younger were tables of all sizes with customer selected veneers pressed on mdf with solid wood edging.?
I initially did it in the predictable ways , oversized then router flush trim, then oversized and virutex lipping planer then + 1/32” and stroke sander then finally as close to dead nuts and block plane as needed if at all.?
?If i did it today i would shoot for +1/64-1/32 and block plane. If i still had a stroke sander then that instead of the block On Feb 17, 2022, at 4:48 PM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? I use a Bosch Colt router with a similar offset base for lipping for years prior to getting the Virutex lipping planer. I still pull it out on occasion for a few things. I like to leave it a whisker high and then plane flush with my block plane. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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I never bothered to reinforce the miters, I still have the Walnut pedestal table and the miters are as tight as the day i made it. But they are 3/4” x 3/4” .
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 5:40 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Thank you all. I think I will go with ~3/16” slot an tenon. I am liking the router planing method but if I do my offset right, I may just be sanding it to finish.
James, my plan is to glue one long side. Use a short piece of edging with a miter cut for checking the alignment of miter joint at each corner. Then do the 2 short sides. All with smallest domino at the miter. I may have to shorten the dominos for the last long side but being only 1” wide, I should be able to bend it enough to fit. At least, that is what I am thinking.
Imran
On Feb 17, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Don’t hardly do it anymore but my main bread and butter when i was 25 yrs younger were tables of all sizes with customer selected veneers pressed on mdf with solid wood edging.?
I initially did it in the predictable ways , oversized then router flush trim, then oversized and virutex lipping planer then + 1/32” and stroke sander then finally as close to dead nuts and block plane as needed if at all.?
?If i did it today i would shoot for +1/64-1/32 and block plane. If i still had a stroke sander then that instead of the block On Feb 17, 2022, at 4:48 PM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? I use a Bosch Colt router with a similar offset base for lipping for years prior to getting the Virutex lipping planer. I still pull it out on occasion for a few things. I like to leave it a whisker high and then plane flush with my block plane. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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