Re: Guide ring (??) for a Hammer C3-31
On 9/28/21 11:21 AM, Roger S wrote: In this video,
<>? he uses a guide ring (I think)… I rather suspect that the cutter in the beginning of the video is is an ancient tool and nothing like it has been made for the consumer market? in decades.
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Re: Guide ring (??) for a Hammer C3-31
Certainly does., Tom. ?Many thanks
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On 28 Sep 2021, at 16:42, tom@... wrote:
Hi Roger!?
It looks like you're using a 30mm spindle so I can't help with specific part numbers, but I'm using the following on my KF700 and have found it to work very well:
1-1/4" bearing :??
This is the largest rub collar (mounts on the above bearing) that Amana offers at 160mm, there are many other smaller collars available in 5mm increments from 75mm to 160mm:??
You can probable find a 30mm to 1-1/4" spacer to allow the above on your 30mm spindle.?
Alternatively, there are fixed collars, like this one from Felder (mounts on the Euro curve hood:??
This is a more elegant setup from Aigner, not sure if it would fit your Hammer, probably worth discussing with your salesperson:
Curved Machining Guide:??
Fits on the Aigner curved hood:??
Hope this helps!
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: A DIY machinery transport experience
Jacques, it's the middle of summer where we are in the Sierra Nevada and northern California.? This year has been especially dry and hot, so we had good sunny weather.? We checked the weather report before each trip.? We had some drizzle on the last trip to transport the sliding table, but wasn't enough to tarp the cargo.? As far as water intrusion protection, we had water-resistance tarps in the car/truck ready just in case.? In my experience, if you plan to tarp your cargo, it is preferred to have tarp with grommets.? I have yet to find a consumer-grade tarp that has enough grommets, so I add more to the tarp.? Grommet tool is available at your local craft store or Amazon.? The other necessities are rope and rubber bungee cords of various lengths to secure the tarp or it will sail away.??If I cannot secure the tarp with rope/bungee cords, then I wrap the tarp-ed machine with plastic stretch wrap and duct tape before strapping to trailer/pallet.??
While most of us worry about water damage, I realized during this move that road dust and debris are just as problematic.? Road construction, aggressive drivers, etc. kick up all sort of debris that can enter machines and potentially cause damage if not cleaned out.? For a few machines, I covered strategic area with cardboard and duct tape or whatever creative solution I can MacGyver using scraps around the shop.? After unloading, I vacuum whatever dust/debris I can find immediately (if not, I will surely forget).? We also timed our travel during non-peak hours.??
Fred, new shop 1600 sq ft.? Supersurfacer bought used from another woodworker.??
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Re: Guide ring (??) for a Hammer C3-31
Hi Roger!?
It looks like you're using a 30mm spindle so I can't help with specific part numbers, but I'm using the following on my KF700 and have found it to work very well:
1-1/4" bearing :??
This is the largest rub collar (mounts on the above bearing) that Amana offers at 160mm, there are many other smaller collars available in 5mm increments from 75mm to 160mm:??
You can probable find a 30mm to 1-1/4" spacer to allow the above on your 30mm spindle.?
Alternatively, there are fixed collars, like this one from Felder (mounts on the Euro curve hood:??
This is a more elegant setup from Aigner, not sure if it would fit your Hammer, probably worth discussing with your salesperson:
Curved Machining Guide:??
Fits on the Aigner curved hood:??
Hope this helps!
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Guide ring (??) for a Hammer C3-31
In this video,?? he uses a guide ring (I think)…..…about 2 min 13 secs in ……. and a template for moulding as much as possible the outside of the spiral volute.
I'd like to do the same but have no experience of guide rings or ring fences. ?My block is this one (together with cutter)
But I can't find a guide ring large enough (I reckon it needs to be 160mm diameter). ?
Any advice/suggestions very welcome.
TIA
Roger
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Hi Jay,
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FWIW, on K975 it is a M6x16 socket head screw (takes 5mm allen wrench and it’s full length 22mm. It is installed like this:
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Imran
On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:41 AM, jbowen@... wrote:
Hi Doug, new K700S owner here as well you are ahead of me in assembly. I do not have the sticker (??) showing the X remove bolts to tilt so your post is good timing. Any other gotcha's?? I just leveled out my machine, checked coplaner and gap from slider to cast iron top, mounted the large extension table and dust collection arm (upgraded version). I am looking for the bolt that mounts to the bar if someone can include a picture back.
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Jay
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Mine was about the last thing to install- I remember it was in a random bolt bag and looked a lot like some kind of set screw.?
Hi Doug, new K700S owner here as well you are ahead of me in assembly. I do not have the sticker (??) showing the X remove bolts to tilt so your post is good timing. Any other gotcha's?? I just leveled out my machine, checked coplaner and gap from slider to cast iron top, mounted the large extension table and dust collection arm (upgraded version). I am looking for the bolt that mounts to the bar if someone can include a picture back.
Jay
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Hi Doug, new K700S owner here as well you are ahead of me in assembly. I do not have the sticker (??) showing the X remove bolts to tilt so your post is good timing. Any other gotcha's?? I just leveled out my machine, checked coplaner and gap from slider to cast iron top, mounted the large extension table and dust collection arm (upgraded version). I am looking for the bolt that mounts to the bar if someone can include a picture back.  Jay
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Re: Onsrud overhead pin router in
I ounce had a ?single spindle carver and was told that to operate one in a factory you wouldn’t get hired unless you only had your thumbs and index fingers. Last one of thes I had I cut it up and ?in process of m aking a spindle boring machine Some day when I am bored no pun intended . Designing and building for 50 years
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On Sep 25, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Brian Greene <Brian@...> wrote:
? I had to look on YouTube to even know what it was… Looks scary?
Brian Sent from a device with less than stellar autocorrect On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:01 PM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Those things are a dime a dozen. might be worth 200.00 to 400
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330 cell 608-824-0023 fax
instagram.com/maccampshure/
Designing and building for 50 years
On Saturday, September 25, 2021, 11:06:30 AM CDT, Brian Greene <brian@...> wrote:
Given this group’s penchant for vintage and heavy equipment:
I don’t know the owner.
Thanks,
Brian
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While at saving, save the pallet clips as well. Best way to move machine in future.
Imran
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On Sep 25, 2021, at 5:40 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote: ? Keep the bolt and bag it with instructions in case you ever sell the saw Dave Davies On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 4:27 PM Alex Bowlds < aabj@...> wrote: Yes, there is a bolt that is installed to prevent movement during shipping. It must be removed before tilting the blade.
Good luck,
Alex ? [Edited Message Follows]
<image.jpg> <image.jpg> Hello all
Purchased a felder 700 sliding saw
do these bolts need to come out , so therfor i can tilt the saw to 90 degrees. ? ?
I may be losing some marbles.? But i cannot seem to crank the tilt and see it in the instructions.
Thank you !
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Onsrud overhead pin router in illinois
I had to look on YouTube to even know what it was… Looks scary?
Brian Sent from a device with less than stellar autocorrect
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On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:01 PM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Those things are a dime a dozen. might be worth 200.00 to 400
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330 cell 608-824-0023 fax
instagram.com/maccampshure/
Designing and building for 50 years
On Saturday, September 25, 2021, 11:06:30 AM CDT, Brian Greene <brian@...> wrote:
Given this group’s penchant for vintage and heavy equipment:
I don’t know the owner.
Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Onsrud overhead pin router in illinois
Those things are a dime a dozen. might be worth 200.00 to 400
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330 cell 608-824-0023 fax
instagram.com/maccampshure/
Designing and building for 50 years
On Saturday, September 25, 2021, 11:06:30 AM CDT, Brian Greene <brian@...> wrote:
Given this group’s penchant for vintage and heavy equipment:
I don’t know the owner.
Thanks,
Brian
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I removed the 2 bolts using a 5mm hex and it was a success!
Thanks all for the quick responses!
Thank you Mr. Davies for the tip!
Doug
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Keep the bolt and bag it with instructions in case you ever sell the saw Dave Davies
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 4:27 PM Alex Bowlds < aabj@...> wrote: Yes, there is a bolt that is installed to prevent movement during shipping. It must be removed before tilting the blade.
Good luck,
Alex ? [Edited Message Follows]
<image.jpg> <image.jpg> Hello all
Purchased a felder 700 sliding saw
do these bolts need to come out , so therfor i can tilt the saw to 90 degrees. ? ?
I may be losing some marbles.? But i cannot seem to crank the tilt and see it in the instructions.
Thank you !
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Yes, there is a bolt that is installed to prevent movement during shipping. It must be removed before tilting the blade.
Good luck,
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On Sep 25, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Doug Fir <jamesngdpi@...> wrote:
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<image.jpg> <image.jpg> Hello all
Purchased a felder 700 sliding saw
do these bolts need to come out , so therfor i can tilt the saw to 90 degrees. ? ?
I may be losing some marbles. ?But i cannot seem to crank the tilt and see it in the instructions.
Thank you !
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On Sep 25, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Doug Fir <jamesngdpi@...> wrote:
? [Edited Message Follows]
<image.jpg> <image.jpg> Hello all
Purchased a felder 700 sliding saw
do these bolts need to come out , so therfor i can tilt the saw to 90 degrees. ? ?
I may be losing some marbles. ?But i cannot seem to crank the tilt and see it in the instructions.
Thank you !
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  Hello all
Purchased a felder 700 sliding saw
do these bolts need to come out , so therfor i can tilt the saw to 90 degrees. ? ?
I may be losing some marbles. ?But i cannot seem to crank the tilt and see it in the instructions.
Thank you !
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Onsrud overhead pin router in illinois
Given this group’s penchant for vintage and heavy equipment:
I don’t know the owner.
Thanks,
Brian
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Re: A snipe I can’t kill…
3 solid answers to try this morning, thank you.
Reading the first - it seems reasonable and while the fences are well aligned, I think I need to kick the back fence out OR move the whole fence back a bit, as I tweaked the location a bit to remove more and didn’t think through fence alignment in that regard.
Thanks for the video on the back fence, I suspect if I can’t easily remedy this with a fence move amd more bias in the PF that’s the direction I’ll try.
I will tweak the angle and create a little more “fence pressure” from the PF and see if that helps.
Imran - they are in fact the shady little feather boards from rockler - I’ve not used them for this setup before and tried that after re-looking in the survival guide last night. ?The clamps hold them quite nicely and while they don’t move, the flex in the fingers could still give enough to allow this. ?I suspect I’ll back-fence before I make a longer feather board. Thank you for the feedback, I’ll keep you posted as I’ll be back at it this morning :-)
Thanks, Brian
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 11:09 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? ?Brian,
Interesting. I do not have this cutter but often used to get a shallower cut at the end of a long board (8’ and longer). I do not recall experiencing the tail end getting pulled in.
Since investing in Aigner pressure modules (usually 4 wheeler on the outfeed fence) this has been reduced but on occasion I can still get a kick out once in a while on long boards.
Shawn has brought up outfeed fence not being in line with infeed. If that is not the source of your problem then, IMHO, the feather boards appear to be the weak link in your setup.?The way they are held by the clamp pad (which is threaded), I wonder if they can rotate under pressure allowing the part to be pulled in.?Have you tried to rotate the feather board by hand to see if they rotate under pressure or stays put? Also, they are fairly short. They look like ones I have from Rockler.
Have you tried increasing the PF speed? Assuming you are not at the top end of feed rate. Just a hunch.
Another thought would be a long continuous featherboard (make it out of a wood scrap) that is held by the two clamps. If needed it can be relieved by the cutter head. For narrow stock, you can also hold a straight piece of wood with your clamps to use as a back fence.
Imran
On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:59 PM, Brian Greene <Brian@...> wrote:
? Moved the feeder back so 2 tires making contact towards the rear fence… moved the feather board back - as soon as it cleared the front fence it swings over ? <image0.jpeg> <image1.jpeg> Sent from a device with less than stellar autocorrect
Thanks, Brian On Sep 24, 2021, at 8:46 PM, Brian Greene via groups.io <Brian@...> wrote:
? Using the rangate 3(4) piece shaker door set on a kf700 with the f38 PF. ?I’ve used this setup before… gorgeous results.This time? ?Wow the snipe. ?Pics of snipe and current setup…I guess I’ll try another run in the AM with it clocked a little lower… but it sure seems to grab.Watching it, it looks like the cutter is pulling the tail end of the piece in as it floats free of the first fence. ?move the PF back? ?Move/add another feather board further back to keep it from kicking out?I am a man that may want an aigner back fence…Thanks in advance.Brian GreeneBrian@...<image0.jpeg> <image1.jpeg> <image2.jpeg>
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Re: A snipe I can’t kill…
?Brian,
Interesting. I do not have this cutter but often used to get a shallower cut at the end of a long board (8’ and longer). I do not recall experiencing the tail end getting pulled in.
Since investing in Aigner pressure modules (usually 4 wheeler on the outfeed fence) this has been reduced but on occasion I can still get a kick out once in a while on long boards.
Shawn has brought up outfeed fence not being in line with infeed. If that is not the source of your problem then, IMHO, the feather boards appear to be the weak link in your setup.?The way they are held by the clamp pad (which is threaded), I wonder if they can rotate under pressure allowing the part to be pulled in.?Have you tried to rotate the feather board by hand to see if they rotate under pressure or stays put? Also, they are fairly short. They look like ones I have from Rockler.
Have you tried increasing the PF speed? Assuming you are not at the top end of feed rate. Just a hunch.
Another thought would be a long continuous featherboard (make it out of a wood scrap) that is held by the two clamps. If needed it can be relieved by the cutter head. For narrow stock, you can also hold a straight piece of wood with your clamps to use as a back fence.
Imran
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:59 PM, Brian Greene <Brian@...> wrote: ? Moved the feeder back so 2 tires making contact towards the rear fence… moved the feather board back - as soon as it cleared the front fence it swings over ? <image0.jpeg> <image1.jpeg> Sent from a device with less than stellar autocorrect
Thanks, Brian On Sep 24, 2021, at 8:46 PM, Brian Greene via groups.io <Brian@...> wrote:
? Using the rangate 3(4) piece shaker door set on a kf700 with the f38 PF. ?I’ve used this setup before… gorgeous results.This time? ?Wow the snipe. ?Pics of snipe and current setup…I guess I’ll try another run in the AM with it clocked a little lower… but it sure seems to grab.Watching it, it looks like the cutter is pulling the tail end of the piece in as it floats free of the first fence. ?move the PF back? ?Move/add another feather board further back to keep it from kicking out?I am a man that may want an aigner back fence…Thanks in advance.Brian GreeneBrian@...<image0.jpeg> <image1.jpeg> <image2.jpeg>
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