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Re: Ebay: Felder KF700S w/DROs, Aigner Fence, Bowmouldmaster, PF, shaper tooling and two dado blades

 

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If the slider is married correctly to the base then it takes an unnerving amount of force to get the bearings to where you want them, i.e., full travel of the slider. You need to pull the slider from the outfeed side and slam it into the stop. I was doing that and still not making progress. Called Felder and was told to do it harder. It worked. The rubber stop got a bit banged but it is fine. May want to confirm that the slider is installed correctly prior to slamming.

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of dsbarnes@...
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2021 1:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Ebay: Felder KF700S w/DROs, Aigner Fence, Bowmouldmaster, PF, shaper tooling and two dado blades

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Hi folks - Thanks again for all the support. I finally got the KF down into the basement and reassembled - everything looks good, but I am struggling a little with the instructions for refitting the slider. As you recall I removed the slide from the base before transporting it back; on refitting, set the carrier 50% on to the lower slide, put the upper slide on a lift cart, engaged the brg cages and slid the table on; so far so good. However, once in place it was appaent that the roller carrier (the flat steel plate that holds the bearing cages) seems to be set too far down the table. Next step in the instructions is to 'align the carrier' by pushing to 'overcome the resistance' and reset the carrier position; however the carrier at this point is hard up against the 2 end stops on the far end of the slider - it seems pretty solid, and any force applied to move the table forward would be reacted through o the tabs on the bearing carrier, which given how solid the stop feels, risks shearing the tabs off. If I leave the stops off at the far end and pull the slide back towards the saw end, the cages and plate eventually roll out from underneath the upper table; with the stops attached, pushing the slide forwards rolls the bearing cages out at the far end. The failure mode as far as I can tell is that the cage is too far down the table, but clearly I'm either missing something blindingly obvious, or I'm too nervous to 'overcome the resistance' as shown in the manual. The resistance in this case seems to be a pretty hard stop, which is giving me reason not to push too hard until more intelligent people can wade in. Once engaged, I have not been able to move the plate relative to the upper and lower tables - not surprising given the roller contact area. As far as I can tell, the plate and carriers do nothing other than retain the position of the cages and rollers - once installed all of the forces are reacted through the rollers. I've looked through the links that David Beswt et all have published, but they see to relate more to a complete removal of the slider assy rather than just the upper section.? Apologies if I've missed this anywhere, but any pearls of wistom from folks who have done this before would be most welcome.
Thanks again for all the help and advice :)

Best regards

David


Re: Ebay: Felder KF700S w/DROs, Aigner Fence, Bowmouldmaster, PF, shaper tooling and two dado blades

 

Hi folks - Thanks again for all the support. I finally got the KF down into the basement and reassembled - everything looks good, but I am struggling a little with the instructions for refitting the slider. As you recall I removed the slide from the base before transporting it back; on refitting, set the carrier 50% on to the lower slide, put the upper slide on a lift cart, engaged the brg cages and slid the table on; so far so good. However, once in place it was appaent that the roller carrier (the flat steel plate that holds the bearing cages) seems to be set too far down the table. Next step in the instructions is to 'align the carrier' by pushing to 'overcome the resistance' and reset the carrier position; however the carrier at this point is hard up against the 2 end stops on the far end of the slider - it seems pretty solid, and any force applied to move the table forward would be reacted through o the tabs on the bearing carrier, which given how solid the stop feels, risks shearing the tabs off. If I leave the stops off at the far end and pull the slide back towards the saw end, the cages and plate eventually roll out from underneath the upper table; with the stops attached, pushing the slide forwards rolls the bearing cages out at the far end. The failure mode as far as I can tell is that the cage is too far down the table, but clearly I'm either missing something blindingly obvious, or I'm too nervous to 'overcome the resistance' as shown in the manual. The resistance in this case seems to be a pretty hard stop, which is giving me reason not to push too hard until more intelligent people can wade in. Once engaged, I have not been able to move the plate relative to the upper and lower tables - not surprising given the roller contact area. As far as I can tell, the plate and carriers do nothing other than retain the position of the cages and rollers - once installed all of the forces are reacted through the rollers. I've looked through the links that David Beswt et all have published, but they see to relate more to a complete removal of the slider assy rather than just the upper section.? Apologies if I've missed this anywhere, but any pearls of wistom from folks who have done this before would be most welcome.
Thanks again for all the help and advice :)

Best regards

David


Re: phase perfect 30hp

 

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That's a good price for a newer white unit.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jared Leach <leach.jared@...>
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:53 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] phase perfect 30hp
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Same. Not sure I NEED it though!

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:58 PM Rick Fisher <rickfisher.cbs@...> wrote:
I'm interested in that ..?


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:24 AM <prestonvinzant@...> wrote:
4 year old phase perfect 30 hp. used for maybe 200 hours. 3000$ houston tx?
prestonvinzant@...
8325297388


Re: phase perfect 30hp

 

Same. Not sure I NEED it though!

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:58 PM Rick Fisher <rickfisher.cbs@...> wrote:
I'm interested in that ..?


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:24 AM <prestonvinzant@...> wrote:
4 year old phase perfect 30 hp. used for maybe 200 hours. 3000$ houston tx?
prestonvinzant@...
8325297388


Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

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The k940 cab is the same as well¡­

Regards, Mark

On Aug 5, 2021, at 11:45 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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PK,

That certainly is fancy. My KF and K975 just have a gasket glued to the perimeter of the flat steel cover. My only Format4 is Dual51, alas sans fancy gasket ?

Imran

On Aug 5, 2021, at 10:54 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

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Imran,

That looks exactly like my electrical cabinet, gasket and all...? Those are definitely for wire management.? The wiring inside mine looks exactly the same including how the red wires go up the saw


Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

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PK,

That certainly is fancy. My KF and K975 just have a gasket glued to the perimeter of the flat steel cover. My only Format4 is Dual51, alas sans fancy gasket ?

Imran

On Aug 5, 2021, at 10:54 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

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Imran,

That looks exactly like my electrical cabinet, gasket and all...? Those are definitely for wire management.? The wiring inside mine looks exactly the same including how the red wires go up the saw


Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

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Let¡¯s see if this goes thru entirely as the last 2 msgs appear to terminated mid sentence.

Imran

On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:42 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

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Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

Thanks for all the comments, I have greatly appreciated this group and have spent many hours researching all the options. The technician opened up the


Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 
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Imran,

That looks exactly like my electrical cabinet, gasket and all...? Those are definitely for wire management.? The wiring inside mine looks exactly the same including how the red wires go up the saw on the left hand side!

will it go through this time???


Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

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Once again beautiful shop and saw.

Electrical cabinet has a gasket, nice?. In the electrical cabinet, what is the purpose of what looks like shelving and partitions. Since everything is on DIN Rail, I can only imagine it is for wire management.

Imran?

On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:11 PM, JP Rice via groups.io <jprphotos@...> wrote:

?Well after 8 months of waiting my new Kappa 400 X-Motion to arrive I got it commissioned by FELDER yesterday. Actually had two technicians do the commissioning, one was being trained. They did a great job and I was very pleased with the outcome. A friend of mine actually received the saw at his business and brought it over to my shop last week and set it in place for me. Friends with forklifts are a wonderful thing. Really looking forward to putting it to work tonight, I have been without a saw since last Jan. when I sold my K500. I took advantage of the downtime to reconfigure my shop in preparation for this day. Upgraded the lighting, had Phase Perfect unit installed and electrical run for the saw, had floors epoxy coated, cleared out many things that took up too much floor space and completely re-did my ductwork with new ducting from Blastgate Company.?
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Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

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Congratulations.? That's a nice saw.? Your shop is beautiful.? ?Well laid out.?

Take care?
John





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From: "JP Rice via groups.io" <jprphotos@...>
Date: 8/5/21 4:11 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [FOG] Kappa 400 has arrived

Well after 8 months of waiting my new Kappa 400 X-Motion to arrive I got it commissioned by FELDER yesterday. Actually had two technicians do the commissioning, one was being trained. They did a great job and I was very pleased with the outcome. A friend of mine actually received the saw at his business and brought it over to my shop last week and set it in place for me. Friends with forklifts are a wonderful thing. Really looking forward to putting it to work tonight, I have been without a saw since last Jan. when I sold my K500. I took advantage of the downtime to reconfigure my shop in preparation for this day. Upgraded the lighting, had Phase Perfect unit installed and electrical run for the saw, had floors epoxy coated, cleared out many things that took up too much floor space and completely re-did my ductwork with new ducting from Blastgate Company.?
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Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

I did not know Santa was coming early this year, I should have asked for mo


Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

JP,

Very nice indeed!? I am jealous, as I am still waiting on my PP to arrive.? Love the floors and your space.? Enjoy using


Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

That's a beautiful from every angle! Congrats! Are you sure that isn't a surgical operating room? Lol.?


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 3:19 PM Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Very nice! A dream shop!

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:11 PM, JP Rice via <jprphotos@...> wrote:

Well after 8 months of waiting my new Kappa 400 X-Motion to arrive I got it commissioned by FELDER yesterday. Actually had two technicians do the commissioning, one was being trained. They did a great job and I was very pleased with the outcome. A friend of mine actually received the saw at his business and brought it over to my shop last week and set it in place for me. Friends with forklifts are a wonderful thing. Really looking forward to putting it to work tonight, I have been without a saw since last Jan. when I sold my K500. I took advantage of the downtime to reconfigure my shop in preparation for this day. Upgraded the lighting, had Phase Perfect unit installed and electrical run for the saw, had floors epoxy coated, cleared out many things that took up too much floor space and completely re-did my ductwork with new ducting from Blastgate Company.?
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Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

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Congratulations!! ?Great looking saw and shop.?

Steve Lyde

On Aug 5, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:

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Beautiful shop!!!

Bill B¨¦langer

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 14:11 JP Rice via <jprphotos=[email protected]> wrote:
Well after 8 months of waiting my new Kappa 400 X-Motion to arrive I got it commissioned by FELDER yesterday. Actually had two technicians do the commissioning, one was being trained. They did a great job and I was very pleased with the outcome. A friend of mine actually received the saw at his business and brought it over to my shop last week and set it in place for me. Friends with forklifts are a wonderful thing. Really looking forward to putting it to work tonight, I have been without a saw since last Jan. when I sold my K500. I took advantage of the downtime to reconfigure my shop in preparation for this day. Upgraded the lighting, had Phase Perfect unit installed and electrical run for the saw, had floors epoxy coated, cleared out many things that took up too much floor space and completely re-did my ductwork with new ducting from Blastgate Company.?
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Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

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Very nice! A dream shop!

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:11 PM, JP Rice via <jprphotos@...> wrote:

Well after 8 months of waiting my new Kappa 400 X-Motion to arrive I got it commissioned by FELDER yesterday. Actually had two technicians do the commissioning, one was being trained. They did a great job and I was very pleased with the outcome. A friend of mine actually received the saw at his business and brought it over to my shop last week and set it in place for me. Friends with forklifts are a wonderful thing. Really looking forward to putting it to work tonight, I have been without a saw since last Jan. when I sold my K500. I took advantage of the downtime to reconfigure my shop in preparation for this day. Upgraded the lighting, had Phase Perfect unit installed and electrical run for the saw, had floors epoxy coated, cleared out many things that took up too much floor space and completely re-did my ductwork with new ducting from Blastgate Company.?
.?<47D8FF86-B927-4C1C-88AF-E68995E13355.jpeg><BB80D6B0-152E-4475-8EB9-5CA72155D58B.jpeg><043B9CBB-659D-4445-A44F-406BF9A6D649.jpeg><3D4851FA-F2E1-4B26-9A4D-F4606C5ACBB0.jpeg><C5BDB58B-5174-48D0-A734-BCDB626CD902.jpeg><C567B677-0307-4CAF-A607-ABAF07252F67.jpeg>


Re: Kappa 400 has arrived

 

Beautiful shop!!!

Bill B¨¦langer

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 14:11 JP Rice via <jprphotos=[email protected]> wrote:
Well after 8 months of waiting my new Kappa 400 X-Motion to arrive I got it commissioned by FELDER yesterday. Actually had two technicians do the commissioning, one was being trained. They did a great job and I was very pleased with the outcome. A friend of mine actually received the saw at his business and brought it over to my shop last week and set it in place for me. Friends with forklifts are a wonderful thing. Really looking forward to putting it to work tonight, I have been without a saw since last Jan. when I sold my K500. I took advantage of the downtime to reconfigure my shop in preparation for this day. Upgraded the lighting, had Phase Perfect unit installed and electrical run for the saw, had floors epoxy coated, cleared out many things that took up too much floor space and completely re-did my ductwork with new ducting from Blastgate Company.?
.?


Kappa 400 has arrived

 

Well after 8 months of waiting my new Kappa 400 X-Motion to arrive I got it commissioned by FELDER yesterday. Actually had two technicians do the commissioning, one was being trained. They did a great job and I was very pleased with the outcome. A friend of mine actually received the saw at his business and brought it over to my shop last week and set it in place for me. Friends with forklifts are a wonderful thing. Really looking forward to putting it to work tonight, I have been without a saw since last Jan. when I sold my K500. I took advantage of the downtime to reconfigure my shop in preparation for this day. Upgraded the lighting, had Phase Perfect unit installed and electrical run for the saw, had floors epoxy coated, cleared out many things that took up too much floor space and completely re-did my ductwork with new ducting from Blastgate Company.?
.?


Re: phase perfect 30hp

 

I'm interested in that ..?


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:24 AM <prestonvinzant@...> wrote:
4 year old phase perfect 30 hp. used for maybe 200 hours. 3000$ houston tx?
prestonvinzant@...
8325297388


Re: VFD

 

Dang it...2 years too early for my needs.
Dave Davies

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:24 AM <prestonvinzant@...> wrote:
i have a phase perfect 30hp i need to sell?



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