Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
Joel,
?The photo of the FB600 bandsaw is from my New Orleans shop.
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On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:17 AM, joelgelman via groups.io <joelgelman@...> wrote:
?Some pictures from my trip. ?Seeing Joe's shop motivated me to get a Fritz Franz, make shaper tooling storage, get a larger bandsaw with a Comatic, get an Omga etc. ?As a bonus, I learned things about equipment other than the shaper also. ?
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Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
Some pictures from my trip. ?Seeing Joe's shop motivated me to get a Fritz Franz, make shaper tooling storage, get a larger bandsaw with a Comatic, get an Omga etc. ?As a bonus, I learned things about equipment other than the shaper also. ?
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Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
I previously attended this workshop. ?Excellent experience. ?Highly recommended. ?I went before I purchased my shaper, and I think this is as useful for someone wanting to buy a shaper as it is for someone who owns one. ?The 2 shapers were both Martin products, and I then ended up with a used T-12. ?
Now that I have had my shaper for several years, I was thinking about going back. ?One thing I would personally value in a course for the shaper I have is training on using the programming features of my T-12 so I can better understand what I am seeing on the screens when I enter presets. ?I am not sure if I would get that at this course as that is very machine specific.?
When you go, you are all at the same nice hotel in beautiful surroundings in a nice small town. ?Very relaxing. ?
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Update. Another guy bought the BF6 and decided he needed standalone machines.
Just bought it for $3200 plus labor helping him set up a website for his business.
Took a few years, but I am now officially a Felder owner. Woot!
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Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
?Joe Kurtz, I don't know of anything quite like this course on the east coast, but there is a "Customer in Residence" workshop available at Thoma Moser in Auburn, ME. There, you work on your choice of what they have in their catalog and build it alongside a master crafter. They keep beginners well away from the machines?but will let you use them?if they see you have competency.?
What is different at the Moser program is that you'll get a fine piece of furniture in the end, and you'll get all kinds of tips on how to fix mistakes. The Alpine workshop is invaluable if you want to master the shaper - I know of nothing similar. BR Eric Janson
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Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
Yes, it's well worth it. Ultimate Joe is the perfect instructor- knowledgeable, tireless and patient. The shop has everything you can think of, plus a bit more that you couldn't think of. Greg G is there to lend expert support,?and no doubt you'll want?to take?advantage of?the?student discount on some Rangate cutters. Ouray is a destination in its own right, with raw beauty, great hiking and excellent restaurants, plus interesting sites nearby for partners who come along for the ride. Be advised, if you are coming by car from the east, that Route 50 closes weekdays for many hours per day for canyon construction. The detour on Rte 92 through Hotchkiss adds about 1h20m but offers some spectacular scenery along the way. BTW, Joe is also a Martin rep and can source Aigner fences, too.? You and your money will soon be parted - but you'll be happy about it ;-) Cheers and good luck on the course Eric Janson
On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 7:52 AM James Runde < jrunde@...> wrote: Stan, Jay On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 6:44 AM Stan Blaszczyk < blaszcsj@...> wrote: How much is the class?
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Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
These workshops look compelling. I could learn a bunch about my KF700 as well as the joinery involded in making doors and windows. Using that knowldge immediarely for joinery in furinture but also down the road if i dabble in doors and windows.
Anything ever on the East Coast similar to this?
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Re: Potential new Felder owner
I recently purchased a new crown 20x48 pallet jack delivered to my shop for 469.99. It¡¯s going to solve mobility issues for all my items.
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On Jun 19, 2021, at 06:25, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Yes it is standard, also forgot to add the ad941 price was for the single phase silent cutter head and the 951 3p silent cutter head, both without shipping which would have added $250 On Jun 19, 2021, at 9:22 AM, jhinman1911@... wrote:
?Ms. Rogers in West Sacramento says the folding cutter head guard is standard in the 9-series machines. That is not clear from the web site.
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Ebay: New Felder 3 Speed 1.25¡± Shaper Spindle $400
Sharing in case someone needs one in a hurry. If you need one I would still check with Felder to confirm if it is indeed out of stock. It is listed at $550 though.
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Re: Setting Hammer K3 Toe Out
#hammer
Hi BaboonFury
I have attached a Hammer setup manual and also the portion on adjustments.
I hope that helps.
BuiltFixed
https://youtube.com/channel/UC7rAShE2Mu_skUa3suYgyOg
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Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
It has been on my wishlist since I got my KF700.? The joinery workshop is 1795 per website (https://alpineworkshops.com/contact/schedule.html) and from teh feedback I have heard it is well worth the money.?
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Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
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Re: Potential new Felder owner
Yes it is standard, also forgot to add the ad941 price was for the single phase silent cutter head and the 951 3p silent cutter head, both without shipping which would have added $250
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On Jun 19, 2021, at 9:22 AM, jhinman1911@... wrote:
?Ms. Rogers in West Sacramento says the folding cutter head guard is standard in the 9-series machines. That is not clear from the web site.
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Re: Potential new Felder owner
Ms. Rogers in West Sacramento says the folding cutter head guard is standard in the 9-series machines. That is not clear from the web site.
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Re: Potential new Felder owner
Just for comparison, I am currently quoted $10,725 for an A941 (jointer only), including auxiliary fence, comfort guard, spiral cutter head, and estimated shipping. 1ph, 4HP motor. That price includes a $700 discount.
Base machine is $9,869.
I enquired about the mobility kit, but that is $514. For the few times I expect to move it, I can rent a pallet jack for $40 per day.
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Re: Potential new Felder owner
Was quoted on March 2021 $12,445 not including shipping and taxes for AD941, 7.5hp 3 phase with Comfort guard.?
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Re: Potential new Felder owner
I was quoted $13,900 and paid $10,400 for the ad941 with comfort guard Dec 2018.
Late Feb 2019 for the AD951 I was quoted $18,900, with discounts came to $16,350. I probably could have gotten that a little lower but not enough to be in my price range.
I also wonder if the 951 is pushing the limits for a combo as far as holding settings long term - thats a lot of cast flipping back and forth, I haven¡¯t had any issues since I received my replacement AD941
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On Jun 19, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote:
? Rats! I thought it might have been the dual51.?
What¡¯s the price of a 941 nowadays? See if Felder has any movement on the used machine. It is 3 phase, I forget if that was an issue for you or not.?
Patrick Here ya go, its on the felder web page
?Patrick, is there an online version of the flyer available for viewing?
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Re: Anybody else attending Alpine Workshop Advanced Joinery class in September?
I am attending Oct 20-23 and will miss seeing you guys.
Steve
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I have the Hammer K3 Winner Comfort and have been tinkering with adjusting the slider height relative to the cast iron table as well as the toe out of the slider. I've now messed up twice where I'd get the toe out where I want to be and in the process of adjusting the height and tightening the slider into place I'm shifting the toe out from where I had originally set it. I have six nut/bolt adjustment points on my slider and when i'm adjusting the toe out I'm leaving one nut/bolt fixed and adjusting the others. Is there a bolt tightening sequence I should be following to avoid this? Any thoughts here are greatly appreciated.
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