Re: New F900z = frustration
Okay- they also forgot to pack the 1100mm fence, so when that gets here, that piece will?make more sense.? Jeff
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:23 PM Alex Bowlds < aabj@...> wrote: Looks like the bolt that secures the crosscut fence to the outrigger.
A. ? <Resized_20210515_102822.jpeg> Thank you - Indeed, that is the piece I need. Kit comes with a series of stamped steel plates instead, so I guess I need to find out if there's a different kit for this style fence which includes the aluminum extrusion your images show. I'll get a message in to the shop to see if this can be worked out.? Next question - anyone know what this is for? was rolling around on the pallet, underneath the machine. Must note- packaging was fully intact, so this is loose stuff from factory.? ?thank you,
jeff ? On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 4:05 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Jeff,
Are you missing this bolt-on piece to mount the safety bars (top view pic - bolt on part circled)?
It has been so long that I no longer remember if I got this (bolt on piece) with machine or when I ordered the safety bars.
Front view:
Rear view:
Imran? ?Just received a brand new F900z, and am beyond frustrated.?
One issue at a time. I ordered the safety bar kit from felder shop prior to receiving machine. They have 2 options for mounting, according to the "instruction" sheet, I think(?).
Problem is, I've got fence plates that are mitered on one end, while opposite end has a flat milled into it with threads, which land offset where instructions say to drill holes = they'll be destroyed. Sure looked like those would be an ideal way to fasten the bar holding plates, but clearly not what they're for.?
Parts breakdown shows my fences are the Anschlaglineal 550 mm, part # 430-007-400.?
Is there a way to actually implement these things with this set of fence plates?
Jeff
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Re: New F900z = frustration
Looks like the bolt that secures the crosscut fence to the outrigger.
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On May 15, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Jeff Roltgen <9namkcits@...> wrote:
? <Resized_20210515_102822.jpeg> Thank you - Indeed, that is the piece I need. Kit comes with a series of stamped steel plates instead, so I guess I need to find out if there's a different kit for this style fence which includes the aluminum extrusion your images show. I'll get a message in to the shop to see if this can be worked out.? Next question - anyone know what this is for? was rolling around on the pallet, underneath the machine. Must note- packaging was fully intact, so this is loose stuff from factory.? ?thank you,
jeff ? On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 4:05 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Jeff,
Are you missing this bolt-on piece to mount the safety bars (top view pic - bolt on part circled)?
It has been so long that I no longer remember if I got this (bolt on piece) with machine or when I ordered the safety bars.
Front view:
Rear view:
Imran? ?Just received a brand new F900z, and am beyond frustrated.?
One issue at a time. I ordered the safety bar kit from felder shop prior to receiving machine. They have 2 options for mounting, according to the "instruction" sheet, I think(?).
Problem is, I've got fence plates that are mitered on one end, while opposite end has a flat milled into it with threads, which land offset where instructions say to drill holes = they'll be destroyed. Sure looked like those would be an ideal way to fasten the bar holding plates, but clearly not what they're for.?
Parts breakdown shows my fences are the Anschlaglineal 550 mm, part # 430-007-400.?
Is there a way to actually implement these things with this set of fence plates?
Jeff
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"Sorry, have not fully followed this thread could you explain the staple issue you overcame to a lay person."
I am no expert, and this thread will get buried, but will be available should someone look this up, and so I will share a few thoughts on making shudders.
For the louvers, I am glad I purchased them at Rockler. ?Sure I could have purchased the tooling and made them, but for a one off, easier to buy the louvers than buy tooling (that then will need to be stored). ?They will be pained white. If you happen to want a certain wood grain, well that would be different.
On the rails and stiles, I used Maple but basswood offers the advantage of lighter weight. ?I made my stiles 1 1/16 thick and the rails not as thick. ?That gives a nice profile with the beads on the inside of the stile. ?For the bit, I liked the Rockler profile better than what I could get on my 1 Whitesides beading bits.?
The stiles get the bead and the rails get a rabbet.
For the notch for the control arm on the top rail, the Rockler jig makes that easy. ?
To make the holes on the inside edges of the stiles, Rockler sells a jig, but I think it is easier and faster to mark all of the stiles across where the holes will be, and use a drill press and fence. ?I bought the jig and ended up not using it. ?Time to sell it cheap.
For the joinery, I was very happy with the Mafell and dowels. ?Easy to do dry fits, and subsequent final assembly.
For drilling the holes in the ends of the louvers I used the Rockler jig connected to plywood that had a toggle clamp to secure the wood. ?Very fast accurate drilling.
Rockler does make products to connect control arms to louvers as an alternative to the staples used by the pros. ?I used staples and jigs. ?adding the 1/4 crown x 7/8 staple to the middle of each louver on end was done with the 1 jig shown in the picture. The staple gun has to be positioned to deliver the staple to the right depth and setting a stop allows the staple to be centered.
The more tricky part is connecting the louvers to the control arm. ?It can be done with 1/4 crown by 5/8 staples. ?In this case, I made my own 1/2 x 5/8 control arms out of basswood with roundovers. ?These control arms then fit in a trough of my jig. ?The staple gun is positioned so that when a louver with a staple is set over the control arm, the staple will go through the center of the staple in the louver and attach it to the control arm. ?There seemed to be slight variability in depth, so I make sure the depth of staple penetration was a bit less than final, and then I use a hammer to have the stapes all protrude 1/4 inch. ?Having this consistency was very helpful in making sure that the louvers opened and closed evenly.
For the assembly, I first connected the rails to 1 stile and did a glue up making sure it was square. ?Then, when that dried I fit the louvers (with shudder pins) into the holes and added the other stile. ?Tricky getting the shudder pins to all fit, but doing it in 2 steps makes this way easier.
For the hinges, many options including lift off. ?I found nice polished nickel hinges that were Deltana CH3020U14 that were really nice. ?I mortise them in using a jig from Woodhaven. ?
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Re: Will Felder ever make a spindle moulder like this?
I believe Martin's retort would be: ?"What does a fully equipped T-27 look like?"
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Re: Will Felder ever make a spindle moulder like this?
Yes the sliding table is not in the way if you are doing the profiling.. thats main reason I bought this spindle moulder and whole lot of other upgrades to make life easier on the spindle moulder.??
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Re: Will Felder ever make a spindle moulder like this?
yes. its an interesting design...?
Believe it or not, SCM asked almost 2000 Euro for this feeder support, because I upgraded to a overhead display, I didnt want to pay 2000 Euro for a feeder support, but I have no choice... if I want my overhead display, I must buy this support. almost feel like a ransom.?
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Has anybody made the leap to buy a Kappa 590??
There has been some threads where they're mentioned as a "want".??
If anybody has purchased one, how long have you had it and what do you think now?
Cheers
David
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Re: New F900z = frustration
 Thank you - Indeed, that is the piece I need. Kit comes with a series of stamped steel plates instead, so I guess I need to find out if there's a different kit for this style fence which includes the aluminum extrusion your images show. I'll get a message in to the shop to see if this can be worked out.? Next question - anyone know what this is for? was rolling around on the pallet, underneath the machine. Must note- packaging was fully intact, so this is loose stuff from factory.? ?thank you,
jeff ?
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 4:05 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Jeff,
Are you missing this bolt-on piece to mount the safety bars (top view pic - bolt on part circled)?
It has been so long that I no longer remember if I got this (bolt on piece) with machine or when I ordered the safety bars.
Front view:
Rear view:
Imran? ?Just received a brand new F900z, and am beyond frustrated.?
One issue at a time. I ordered the safety bar kit from felder shop prior to receiving machine. They have 2 options for mounting, according to the "instruction" sheet, I think(?).
Problem is, I've got fence plates that are mitered on one end, while opposite end has a flat milled into it with threads, which land offset where instructions say to drill holes = they'll be destroyed. Sure looked like those would be an ideal way to fasten the bar holding plates, but clearly not what they're for.?
Parts breakdown shows my fences are the Anschlaglineal 550 mm, part # 430-007-400.?
Is there a way to actually implement these things with this set of fence plates?
Jeff
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Re: New F900z = frustration
Jeff,
Are you missing this bolt-on piece to mount the safety bars (top view pic - bolt on part circled)?
It has been so long that I no longer remember if I got this (bolt on piece) with machine or when I ordered the safety bars.
Front view:
Rear view:
Imran?
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On May 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, 9namkcits@... wrote: ?Just received a brand new F900z, and am beyond frustrated.?
One issue at a time. I ordered the safety bar kit from felder shop prior to receiving machine. They have 2 options for mounting, according to the "instruction" sheet, I think(?).
Problem is, I've got fence plates that are mitered on one end, while opposite end has a flat milled into it with threads, which land offset where instructions say to drill holes = they'll be destroyed. Sure looked like those would be an ideal way to fasten the bar holding plates, but clearly not what they're for.?
Parts breakdown shows my fences are the Anschlaglineal 550 mm, part # 430-007-400.?
Is there a way to actually implement these things with this set of fence plates?
Jeff
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Just received a brand new F900z, and am beyond frustrated.?
One issue at a time. I ordered the safety bar kit from felder shop prior to receiving machine. They have 2 options for mounting, according to the "instruction" sheet, I think(?).
Problem is, I've got fence plates that are mitered on one end, while opposite end has a flat milled into it with threads, which land offset where instructions say to drill holes = they'll be destroyed. Sure looked like those would be an ideal way to fasten the bar holding plates, but clearly not what they're for.?
Parts breakdown shows my fences are the Anschlaglineal 550 mm, part # 430-007-400.?
Is there a way to actually implement these things with this set of fence plates?
Jeff
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Well, in my case, yes. I had to rotate the PF 180 deg from as shown in pic. First I thought it was empty as I could see a shaft right below but then I realized the oil was really clear. I did not need to add any.
Can you tell that it is leaking from seal?
Imran
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Hi Imran,
Thank you for the link. My search failed to find this message:((?
To check oil level, probably I need to position wheel unit with this "T" bolt up, is this correct?
Thanks again,
Ed.
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Re: Japanese Pull Saw Recommendation
I have several Japanese pullsaws?which have the advantage of replaceable blades.? For smaller work, I suggest Zona saws. They seem to be part of the College of the Redwoods/Krenov School curriculum for fine cuts or dovetail type work.??The blades are very thin so cutting to a fine line is easy and the saws are throwaway-cheap, about $10 each from Amazon.? A variety of TPI's?is available as is a flush-cut model.? I use a slightly tired one to cut brass or aluminum.? The full lineup is at?. ? ? ?Jim ? ??
James H. Fleming
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Felder told me to expect an oil leak if I leave the “holder” folded down on a saw/shaper to use the saw, so you don’t have a defective unit.?
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Hi Eduard,
The link above shows the seal for the oil chamber for Vario4. My manual shows many other PFs but not your model. So look for a similar seal.
Many posters have recently posted a leak from this seal due to how the PF was stored for a relatively long time. What happens is that the seal drys out and then when PF is in correct orientation it fails to seal.
My manual calls out (see pic in the linked post) some german oil but also says SAE30 can be used.
Hopefully this helps you going.
Imran?
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On May 14, 2021, at 7:24 PM, Eduard Nemirovsky <eduard.nemirovsky@...> wrote: ?Hi all,
I was moving my shop for a last 4-5 month and during all this time Felder feeder S-308 was lying on it side, on the pallet. Now after putting it on machine, I see oil dripping from it on the table. Feeder is working, no creasy or unusual sound during powered, but this dripping oil really bothered me. Where it is leaking from, how to stop it( yea, I know, wait for all oil to leaking out ::), and probably I need to replace it? Do I need to buy oil from Felder, with all creasiness with shipping, not the best option? What kind of oil should I use?
Thank you and have a nice weekend.
Ed.
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Re: Japanese Pull Saw Recommendation
I just noticed in the shop today that I have a 372, like Taylor said it is a nice saw…
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On May 13, 2021, at 7:06 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Thanks Roger. I guess I lucked out, as the Dozuki has a rigid back.
Imran
On May 13, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Roger S <rsinden@...> wrote:
? Imran
Don’t waste your money on the set. ?I went to Japan and bought a load of their saws…tried using them and just didn't get on with any without a rigid back.
But there you’re talking…just bought my third. ?It’s my go-to saw for small stuff.?
?Ice Bear Japanese Ikedame Dovetail Saw
Careful…the teeth are brittle.
Roger
I am more a traditional saw guy for any important cuts, but i do like this flush cut saw and i have had many over the years as they are basically throw aways.
Gyokucho Razorsaw Flush Cutting Single Edge Saw 100mm No. 1150?
And this one is very handy as well
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Hi all,
I was moving my shop for a last 4-5 month and during all this time Felder feeder S-308 was lying on it side, on the pallet. Now after putting it on machine, I see oil dripping from it on the table. Feeder is working, no creasy or unusual sound during powered, but this dripping oil really bothered me. Where it is leaking from, how to stop it( yea, I know, wait for all oil to leaking out ::), and probably I need to replace it? Do I need to buy oil from Felder, with all creasiness with shipping, not the best option? What kind of oil should I use?
Thank you and have a nice weekend.
Ed.
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Re: Japanese Pull Saw Recommendation
You can use a non flush cut saw but they will gouge the wood surface due to their offset teeth. The flush cut saw has no offset and does not damage the surface much if at all.? Taylor Donsker www.tdonsker.com 818.424.9046
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On May 14, 2021, at 6:17 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Thanks again for all the feedback. I was not looking for a flush cut saw but if the rip/xcut also worked as one that would have been a bonus. Anyhow, now I have details on the flush cut as well ?
Imran
On May 13, 2021, at 11:49 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:
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And available at walmart
Hi Imran,
I second Taylor's recommendation of the Gyokucho's?
Here's a video by David Barron in which he does a run down of
various models and their features and applications. I even hit a
hidden nail with mine doing some restoration work and it's still
quite sharp. I think I got the 307. I ordered mine off eBay and
purchased a spare blade at the same time.?
Cheers
Michael
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Re: Japanese Pull Saw Recommendation
Thanks again for all the feedback. I was not looking for a flush cut saw but if the rip/xcut also worked as one that would have been a bonus. Anyhow, now I have details on the flush cut as well ?
Imran
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On May 13, 2021, at 11:49 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote: ?
And available at walmart
Hi Imran,
I second Taylor's recommendation of the Gyokucho's?
Here's a video by David Barron in which he does a run down of
various models and their features and applications. I even hit a
hidden nail with mine doing some restoration work and it's still
quite sharp. I think I got the 307. I ordered mine off eBay and
purchased a spare blade at the same time.?
Cheers
Michael
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Re: Will Felder ever make a spindle moulder like this?
Congrats Albert. What a beautiful machine. When you ordered, I was able to find a video (or maybe you had shared one) that showed how the sliding table on the side worked. That was fun to watch. Anyhow, I found a brochure and spotted the power feeder stand. I have not seen one like this with counters before.
Imran
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On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 PM, Albert Lee <timbershelf@...> wrote: ? [Edited Message Follows]
My new spindle moulder was delivered around early May, I ordered it in July 2020, arrived at our shore around Feb 2021. No its not a Felder its a SCM, I like SCM and Felder but preferred SCM, I may have bought Felder but unfortunately Felder does not offer a spindle moulder with sliding table on its side.? I wondered will Felder ever offer something similar? I know even a smaller Czech company Houfek offers spindle moulder in this configuration.? The user manual says I need 7.6m x 6.6m work space for it, with the machine in the middle of it - my workshop is only 9m x 6m. it currently lives in an area of 2.1m x 5m
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