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I can answer this question almost exactly.? I have a new kitchen, a Hafele appliance lift, and a 600 series Kitchenaid.? I found out after moving in last week that it doesn't work...the Hafele unit is setup for the smaller 5qt Artisan mixer and my 15" cabinet is too narrow for my 600 series mixer.? Even if my cabinet was wider I don't think the Hafele unit has enough height clearance to work unless you drop the install height way down in the cabinet and sacrifice any sort of under mixer storage.?I'm not sure if you can see in the pictures, but the mixer arms that hold the bowl hit the mechanism that holds the shelf, as the shelf extends out the mechanism arms catch on the mixer and prevent it from moving unless you twist around the mixer...the smaller Kitchenaid doesn't have these arms.? Also you can see the height is an additional issue.? My parents have the Rev-A-Shelf mixer lift in their kitchen, but they also have the smaller kitchenaid - thier unit works flawlessly.? The Hafele unit that I have does in fact work very well - the operation is simple and smooth...it just doesn't work for the 600 series mixer.? Because I have a width issue I cannot over come I wont be trying the rev-a-shelf and I am going to swap out my mixer lift for pull out drawers, the weight of the mixer isn't a big deal my either me or my wife at this time in our lives so we will manage...we could also downsize to the smaller mixer but that seems like the less desirable option for us.?



Ross Taylor
taylor.ross@...

On Feb 17, 2021, at 8:38 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Mike,

I called Zinn Kitchens for a recommendation. He said the same as others here. He tries his best to talk customers out of a lift. If pressed he would use Rev a Shelf, which has been given thumbs down here by some. I have never used the KA but my wife has no complaints. I can fairly easily move it side to side. We are not a heavy user, few time per yr, so wonder if heavy use will cause wear and make it more rickety.

I wonder if someone in europe offers a better solution.

I wonder how folding leg supports will work as additional support on a less than ideal lift.

Imran

On Feb 16, 2021, at 9:58 PM, Mike Bemis <Michaelsbemis@...> wrote:

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The timing could not be better. I also have a client who desires a mixer lift and until now they have been successfully avoided. How do you like it Imran??

The client will also want to clamp on an apple peeler so lateral stability is a concern of mine. I’d have no concerns if Kessebohmer made one, their pullout pantry was quite solid. What David says.?

For what’s it’s worth the kitchen work pays for more Felder tools.?
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Mike B

On Feb 17, 2021, at 4:32 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

?David, I guess your “finger-prowess” exceeds mine! :-)

Lucky

On 18 Feb 2021, at 8:30 am, david@... via <david@...> wrote:

My Legris do not require two hands. Rotate one direction, then the other and it comes loose.?

David Best - via mobile phone?

On Feb 17, 2021, at 1:56 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

?+1 for the Legris fittings. I also have the hi-flo Prevost fittings and have had no problem with them either.

The Legris quick connects have a bi-directional twist mechanism. To disconnect, it requires two hands, and a twisting motion in one direction (to relieve pressure), followed by a twisting motion in the other (to disconnect the hose). This is slightly less convenient because of the requirement for two hands, but the mechanism itself reeks of quality. And the disconnect process is very quiet. And it is practically impossible for the quick connect to come apart inadvertently.?

The Prevost quick connects (at least the ones I have) have a push-button mechanism. The mechanism can be operated one-handed, and the relief of pressure and disconnection is achieved all by a one-press-of-a-button. Over the several years that I have had these in my shop, they have not failed, and I actually prefer the one-handed mechanism. But I have heard that Prevost can fail (leak), so it is a bit hard for me to be unequivocal about recommending them. Also, on a coupe of occasions I have dragged a hose around my shop and the mechanism has disconnected inadvertently when the button happened to snag on a corner. No big deal because the pressure is relieved (no hose going “bang” and whipping around), but …

So take your pick. The one-handed convenience means the connection is not quite as secure. I have quite a bit of Legris in my shop (quick connects, coil hoses, blow guns) and they are all of very high quality and worth the money IMO.

Hope this helps.

Lucky

On 18 Feb 2021, at 2:11 am, david@... via <david@...> wrote:

I standardized on Legris safety couplers throughout the shop and love them. ??

A lot of the Prevost stuff sold in groups of 4-5 units are counterfeit - so beware.

David Best

On Feb 17, 2021, at 6:16 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

The frustration continues to mount in our shop over quick connect fittings, both on flexible hose lines and rigid pipe connections. We also have a hodgepodge of different sizes because the Dynabrade rep recommended using high flow fittings for sander connection. The stuff we've been buying at our big box store is total junk. They leak inside of a year. Our next door neighbor is an air compressor service tech, and surprisingly he has no wisdom for us. Anybody have good, long lasting fittings they like?
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

On 18 Feb 2021, at 8:30 am, david@... via <david@...> wrote:

My Legris do not require two hands. Rotate one direction, then the other and it comes loose.?

David Best - via mobile phone?

On Feb 17, 2021, at 1:56 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

?+1 for the Legris fittings. I also have the hi-flo Prevost fittings and have had no problem with them either.

The Legris quick connects have a bi-directional twist mechanism. To disconnect, it requires two hands, and a twisting motion in one direction (to relieve pressure), followed by a twisting motion in the other (to disconnect the hose). This is slightly less convenient because of the requirement for two hands, but the mechanism itself reeks of quality. And the disconnect process is very quiet. And it is practically impossible for the quick connect to come apart inadvertently.?

The Prevost quick connects (at least the ones I have) have a push-button mechanism. The mechanism can be operated one-handed, and the relief of pressure and disconnection is achieved all by a one-press-of-a-button. Over the several years that I have had these in my shop, they have not failed, and I actually prefer the one-handed mechanism. But I have heard that Prevost can fail (leak), so it is a bit hard for me to be unequivocal about recommending them. Also, on a coupe of occasions I have dragged a hose around my shop and the mechanism has disconnected inadvertently when the button happened to snag on a corner. No big deal because the pressure is relieved (no hose going “bang” and whipping around), but …

So take your pick. The one-handed convenience means the connection is not quite as secure. I have quite a bit of Legris in my shop (quick connects, coil hoses, blow guns) and they are all of very high quality and worth the money IMO.

Hope this helps.

Lucky

On 18 Feb 2021, at 2:11 am, david@... via <david@...> wrote:

I standardized on Legris safety couplers throughout the shop and love them. ??

A lot of the Prevost stuff sold in groups of 4-5 units are counterfeit - so beware.

David Best

On Feb 17, 2021, at 6:16 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

The frustration continues to mount in our shop over quick connect fittings, both on flexible hose lines and rigid pipe connections. We also have a hodgepodge of different sizes because the Dynabrade rep recommended using high flow fittings for sander connection. The stuff we've been buying at our big box store is total junk. They leak inside of a year. Our next door neighbor is an air compressor service tech, and surprisingly he has no wisdom for us. Anybody have good, long lasting fittings they like?
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

On Feb 17, 2021, at 1:56 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

?+1 for the Legris fittings. I also have the hi-flo Prevost fittings and have had no problem with them either.

The Legris quick connects have a bi-directional twist mechanism. To disconnect, it requires two hands, and a twisting motion in one direction (to relieve pressure), followed by a twisting motion in the other (to disconnect the hose). This is slightly less convenient because of the requirement for two hands, but the mechanism itself reeks of quality. And the disconnect process is very quiet. And it is practically impossible for the quick connect to come apart inadvertently.?

The Prevost quick connects (at least the ones I have) have a push-button mechanism. The mechanism can be operated one-handed, and the relief of pressure and disconnection is achieved all by a one-press-of-a-button. Over the several years that I have had these in my shop, they have not failed, and I actually prefer the one-handed mechanism. But I have heard that Prevost can fail (leak), so it is a bit hard for me to be unequivocal about recommending them. Also, on a coupe of occasions I have dragged a hose around my shop and the mechanism has disconnected inadvertently when the button happened to snag on a corner. No big deal because the pressure is relieved (no hose going “bang” and whipping around), but …

So take your pick. The one-handed convenience means the connection is not quite as secure. I have quite a bit of Legris in my shop (quick connects, coil hoses, blow guns) and they are all of very high quality and worth the money IMO.

Hope this helps.

Lucky

On 18 Feb 2021, at 2:11 am, david@... via <david@...> wrote:

I standardized on Legris safety couplers throughout the shop and love them. ??

A lot of the Prevost stuff sold in groups of 4-5 units are counterfeit - so beware.

David Best

On Feb 17, 2021, at 6:16 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

The frustration continues to mount in our shop over quick connect fittings, both on flexible hose lines and rigid pipe connections. We also have a hodgepodge of different sizes because the Dynabrade rep recommended using high flow fittings for sander connection. The stuff we've been buying at our big box store is total junk. They leak inside of a year. Our next door neighbor is an air compressor service tech, and surprisingly he has no wisdom for us. Anybody have good, long lasting fittings they like?
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

On 18 Feb 2021, at 2:11 am, david@... via <david@...> wrote:

I standardized on Legris safety couplers throughout the shop and love them. ??

A lot of the Prevost stuff sold in groups of 4-5 units are counterfeit - so beware.

David Best

On Feb 17, 2021, at 6:16 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

The frustration continues to mount in our shop over quick connect fittings, both on flexible hose lines and rigid pipe connections. We also have a hodgepodge of different sizes because the Dynabrade rep recommended using high flow fittings for sander connection. The stuff we've been buying at our big box store is total junk. They leak inside of a year. Our next door neighbor is an air compressor service tech, and surprisingly he has no wisdom for us. Anybody have good, long lasting fittings they like?
?
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

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The frustration continues to mount in our shop over quick connect fittings, both on flexible hose lines and rigid pipe connections. We also have a hodgepodge of different sizes because the Dynabrade rep recommended using high flow fittings for sander connection. The stuff we've been buying at our big box store is total junk. They leak inside of a year. Our next door neighbor is an air compressor service tech, and surprisingly he has no wisdom for us. Anybody have good, long lasting fittings they like?
?
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

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