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Re: A note of caution

 

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These are scary but important reminders. ?I have too many times thought, ?wow that was stupid and I am lucky I got away with that. ?Usually it is also at the end of the day, like others have mentioned, and even more specifically “the one last thing I'm going to do today.” ?I wish your colleage a speedy recovery! ?Thanks for the reminder. ?

Anthony?

On Jan 22, 2021, at 1:48 PM, KRPatel via <kamalsonal@...> wrote:

Jason,

Wishing your friend a speedy recovery and he was fortunate to have his colleagues around to administer aid quickly.? One simply cannot be too careful especially in home/hobby shops especially as we get older...take a breather if your frustrated or tired, ask for help, or just walk away til tomorr


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Hope he has a full recovery.?

I too bought an Apple Watch for this fall detection feature, but have since learned there are apps you can install on your phone that provides the same or very similar capability.?

Steve


On Jan 22, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

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Thanks for the well?wishes. I will pass them along. He is stable this morning, with a killer headache. They will be keeping him a while to monitor the bleeding.

TJ, good reminder. It's good to listen to yourself. I always seem to know beforehand when I'm about to do something stupid. Sometimes I can't focus on things, I just leave and come back later. Or tomorrow.?

I see the value of the Apple watch now. I don't know if I can bring myself to buy one though. Hopefully Android watches copy that feature.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: A note of caution

 

Thanks for the well?wishes. I will pass them along. He is stable this morning, with a killer headache. They will be keeping him a while to monitor the bleeding.

TJ, good reminder. It's good to listen to yourself. I always seem to know beforehand when I'm about to do something stupid. Sometimes I can't focus on things, I just leave and come back later. Or tomorrow.?

I see the value of the Apple watch now. I don't know if I can bring myself to buy one though. Hopefully Android watches copy that feature.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: A note of caution

 

Jason,

Wishing your friend a speedy recovery and he was fortunate to have his colleagues around to administer aid quickly.? One simply cannot be too careful especially in home/hobby shops especially as we get older...take a breather if your frustrated or tired, ask for help, or just walk away til tomorrow.? ?


Re: Saw table infill

 

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Please post some pictures of what modification you have done?

Thank you in advance

Marshall

On Jan 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, deliveries@... wrote:

Paul,

I know exactly what you mean. I got sick of the gap between the planer and saw table and the poor, to me, operation of the rip fence.

I used a length of 40/80 slotted aluminium extrusion clamped to the front of the saw table and made up my own sliding fence. The arrangement is similar to how the Hammer fence is arranged. It may look a little crude but it glides accross the tables easily and is just as solid as the original Felder fence.

I incorporated adjusters into it so I can set it square and also parallel to the saw blade.

The only slight disadvantage is that it does not tilt.

I managed to do this without drilling or modifying the machine or original fence in any way. The extrusion can be removed by backing off two 13mm bolts 1/2 turn each.

If you're interested I'll post up a few pictures but I won't be back at work till Monday.

Dave


Re: Saw table infill

 

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Please post some pictures?


On Jan 22, 2021, at 12:13 PM, deliveries@... wrote:

?Paul,

I know exactly what you mean. I got sick of the gap between the planer and saw table and the poor, to me, operation of the rip fence.

I used a length of 40/80 slotted aluminium extrusion clamped to the front of the saw table and made up my own sliding fence. The arrangement is similar to how the Hammer fence is arranged. It may look a little crude but it glides accross the tables easily and is just as solid as the original Felder fence.

I incorporated adjusters into it so I can set it square and also parallel to the saw blade.

The only slight disadvantage is that it does not tilt.

I managed to do this without drilling or modifying the machine or original fence in any way. The extrusion can be removed by backing off two 13mm bolts 1/2 turn each.

If you're interested I'll post up a few pictures but I won't be back at work till Monday.

Dave


Felder comfort rolling carriage #forsale

 

Hi there Felder group,?

My first post here to the group, but I've been enjoying reading the conversations since I joined a few months ago.

I have a Felder Comfort Rolling Carriage for sale, in almost mint condition. It was fitted to my CF 531 which I've just installed Zambus castors to so I no longer need it.

Here is a link for the item on the Felder shop.?


$180 to the lucky new owner.



Re: Saw table infill

 

Paul,

I know exactly what you mean. I got sick of the gap between the planer and saw table and the poor, to me, operation of the rip fence.

I used a length of 40/80 slotted aluminium extrusion clamped to the front of the saw table and made up my own sliding fence. The arrangement is similar to how the Hammer fence is arranged. It may look a little crude but it glides accross the tables easily and is just as solid as the original Felder fence.

I incorporated adjusters into it so I can set it square and also parallel to the saw blade.

The only slight disadvantage is that it does not tilt.

I managed to do this without drilling or modifying the machine or original fence in any way. The extrusion can be removed by backing off two 13mm bolts 1/2 turn each.

If you're interested I'll post up a few pictures but I won't be back at work till Monday.

Dave


Re: A note of caution

 

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Years ago my father was on a ladder on a lower roof working on the second story and the ladder slid out from under him.? This was in the days before cell phones. ??In the fall his leg was tangled in the ladder and it crushed his ankle.? He had to wait on the roof for 5 hours for my mother to get home to call for help. Agony.

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Jason,

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I pray your mate comes out of it fully recovered and as soon as possible.

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I learned this lesson when i was on the roof during constructing the addition behind my shop and my ladder fell. Yes, I know i need to secure it but it was on the opposite end of the prevailing wind side.

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Another safety rule of our house, no chainsaw work when wife is not home. Does not matter if I have cell or not.

?

Imran


On Jan 22, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

?I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: A note of caution

 

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Jason, thanks for this. I am guilty too often of doing things while alone in the shop that would be better with help.? As I get older and weaker I am better as having my son in law come over to lend a hand but just this week I was up on a ladder awkwardly getting lumber down. ?In hindsight I should not have done it alone.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason Holtz
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 7:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] A note of caution

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I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: A note of caution

 

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Thanks Jason for sharing – that’s very sobering. Best wishes to your friend for a full and speedy recovery.

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One thing I would add to this discussion – in the commercial world, there are organizations like OSHA that set rules for safety equipment, shop layout/storage, certain procedures, and working hours. At home these don’t apply, or are not enforced. That doesn’t mean they aren’t important for home use, too. I sliced my thumb a year ago on my SawStop clearing an offcut during a spindown. The blade brake fired, and because of the nature of impact, I contacted the side of the blade, not the teeth, it actually pulled a tooth across my thumb and I got an arguably worse injury than if I would have contacted the front of the blade. The reason this happened – it was late and I was tired.

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Knowing when it’s time to turn the lights off and head home is really important.

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Date: Friday, January 22, 2021 at 8:50 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] A note of caution

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I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: A note of caution

 

That’s a good reminder, thanks Jason. When Apple came out with their series 4 Apple Watch with fall detection both my wife and I got them and had my 90+ Yr old parents buy them as well. If the watch detects a fall, it ask if your ok, if you don’t respond within 60 seconds it will call 911 and give them your gps location and call the emergency contact person you list as well. Gives me some peace of mind knowing that if my parents fall I will be notified and yes, if I fell in my hobby shop my wife would be alerted ?
Pat Rice


Re: motor(s) overheating on vintage SCM Minimax

 

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Acharya, both motors are acting the same way?? That in itself is a little wierd although if MM uses Fimec motors I'm not complietely surprised.? Are the motor single or three phase and what are the frame sizes and hp ratings.? The larger three phase motors tend to run hot as they are up to 9 hp in a 100L frame.? Impossible to source from anyone other than SCM.? The smaller motors might be something you can source cheaper elsewhere.? Rewinding the smaller ones isn't usually cost effective and the motor shops don't like rewinding the larger ones due to the amount of wires packed into the small frame.? I have an old guy who will do it and he charged me 600 but other motor shops estimated 900-1400, about the cost of new from SCM.? The smaller single phase motors should be more in the 400-500 range.?

Have been able to feel how hot they get or measure the amp draw ?? If I were testing the motors to sell the machine, I would check that.? If the amp draw is OK and the motors stay cool, there may be a problem somewhere in the electrics.? I don't know how the MM machines are wired and if there are some electrics common to the two motors.? Sam Blasco might give you some help.? He is a good guy and sells for MM.? Erik Loza who now works for Felder sold for MM for years and might have some insight as well.?

If the motors get very hot and the bearings sound good, you are probably close to replacement time.? 20 years on an Italian motor is more common than you would think.? Dave


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Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:57 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] motor(s) overheating on vintage SCM Minimax
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I'm planning on replacing my Minimax 300 CU; year of manufacture: 2000. For several years I have experienced overheating of the saw and shaper motors when running the machine for extended periods, especially under heavy load, e.g., thick hardwood ripping on the saw.?

Is there any danger in letting the saw run with no load to see how long it will go before shutting itself off (which is had been doing). I want to test it before presenting it for sale. I did some cleanup on the shop wiring, which MAY have improved matters.

When the motor(s) have overheated in the past, they shut themselves off without tripping a breaker. After letting the saw sit and cool down, it would turn on again. This is not a production shop, so I rarely do long runs, only when I get a helper or two and have some extended time off from other duties for a special project.?

One more question: For a future owner, does this sound like something that could be remedied by having the motor rewound at a motor shop?
What does that procedure normally cost (if the motor tech thinks it will be effective?


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Best wishes to your friend, Jason. I’ve had my share of accidents on the farm, and our neighbor is now partially paralyzed after such an accident. The working alone deal is often part of the problem, but at the end of the day, you just can’t be too careful and sharing stories keeps it real.

Bird

On Jan 22, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: A note of caution

 

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Jason,

I pray your mate comes out of it fully recovered and as soon as possible.

I learned this lesson when i was on the roof during constructing the addition behind my shop and my ladder fell. Yes, I know i need to secure it but it was on the opposite end of the prevailing wind side.

Another safety rule of our house, no chainsaw work when wife is not home. Does not matter if I have cell or not.

Imran

On Jan 22, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

?I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


A note of caution

 

I know most of the folks in this group are hobbyists, and as such are probably in the shop alone most of the time. Please carry your phone on your person at all times in case of an accident.

Yesterday in the shop, there were three of us fortunately. I'm usually aware of my surroundings and am quick to offer help before someone asks for it. Not yesterday though. I was applying finish, had my earphones on in my own world. That's when I heard the crash from across the shop. My shop mate had been on a ladder getting some wood off of the storage rack. We found him on the floor on his back, twisted up in a pile of wood and the ladder. He was unconscious and bleeding badly from the back of his head. Called 911. We got all the wood/ladder moved off of him and I rolled him to his side and applied pressure to his wound to stop the bleeding. I kept talking to him and he came to, and was totally incoherent for a couple minutes. He started to make some sense after a couple minutes, but had no idea what happened. The paramedics arrived within 10 minutes. They put a neck brace on him and got him sitting up for a minute, but he was very nauseous. They then put him on a gurney and took him out to the ambulance where they checked him out further. Ended up at HCMC, a level one trauma center. CT scan showed a brain bleed and skull fractures. His cognitive test results were good. Hoping for the best. He may be there a while. I shudder to think about if he would have been in the shop alone.?

Please check your risk factors. Ask for help when you need it. Your friends and family want you around.
Jason
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


For Folks Who Complain about Felder Service

 

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I honestly received this pic from an OEM regarding motor connections.



Below is what original connections look like. I seriously was shocked beyond belief and literally thought the tech was starting with a joke to be followed by actual information. The icing was this statement, “Make sure all your wires match those in the attached document as closely as possible.”

“As closely as possible” is not how one should make electrical connections.


BTW, the blue wire on bottom right is pointed straight down now ?

Imran


Active Altendorf "F45 Elmo 4" Programmable Sliding Table Saw - 4-Axis - $11.5K 4hrs left - Colorado

 

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Re: motor(s) overheating on vintage SCM Minimax

 

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Oh! service rating is S followed by a number, e.g., S6. There is a nice concise chart that John Kee posted but this is what I could find.


Imran?

On Jan 22, 2021, at 8:06 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Acharya,

I am not a motor expert but here is what I can offer. The RPC I built with a used 10HP motor ran idle (no load) for 17-18 yrs until I sold it.

I assumed your motor is fan cooled so, check that there is airflow. Are the motors relatively clean? Caked on dust/grime can contribute to heat.?Is your shop air conditioned, if not, is the ambient temp higher than recommended?

It would be odd that both motors will have a fault at the same time with same symptoms so I would check the voltage (under load) at the motor to make sure it is within range. It is important to check voltage at the motor because even if you have good voltage at the panel or phase converter it can drop across old wires and worn interconnects.

If you have a clamp meter check current as high current is one reason motor will run hot.

Finally, there is a service rating on motors. In most cases our machines do not have continuous run motors. So there is a duty cycle (max running time followed by adequate off time) defined for each. I have never paid attention to the time I run the machine and have never over heated but I assume it is possible to do so.

If you want to do the experiment, I would do it with shaper as it is easy to completely remove the belt from the pulley and the spindle. I would not run it unattended.

Imran


On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:17 PM, Acharya Kumarnathaswami <kumar@...> wrote:

?I'm planning on replacing my Minimax 300 CU; year of manufacture: 2000. For several years I have experienced overheating of the saw and shaper motors when running the machine for extended periods, especially under heavy load, e.g., thick hardwood ripping on the saw.?

Is there any danger in letting the saw run with no load to see how long it will go before shutting itself off (which is had been doing). I want to test it before presenting it for sale. I did some cleanup on the shop wiring, which MAY have improved matters.

When the motor(s) have overheated in the past, they shut themselves off without tripping a breaker. After letting the saw sit and cool down, it would turn on again. This is not a production shop, so I rarely do long runs, only when I get a helper or two and have some extended time off from other duties for a special project.?

One more question: For a future owner, does this sound like something that could be remedied by having the motor rewound at a motor shop?
What does that procedure normally cost (if the motor tech thinks it will be effective?


Re: motor(s) overheating on vintage SCM Minimax

 

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Acharya,

I am not a motor expert but here is what I can offer. The RPC I built with a used 10HP motor ran idle (no load) for 17-18 yrs until I sold it.

I assumed your motor is fan cooled so, check that there is airflow. Are the motors relatively clean? Caked on dust/grime can contribute to heat.?Is your shop air conditioned, if not, is the ambient temp higher than recommended?

It would be odd that both motors will have a fault at the same time with same symptoms so I would check the voltage (under load) at the motor to make sure it is within range. It is important to check voltage at the motor because even if you have good voltage at the panel or phase converter it can drop across old wires and worn interconnects.

If you have a clamp meter check current as high current is one reason motor will run hot.

Finally, there is a service rating on motors. In most cases our machines do not have continuous run motors. So there is a duty cycle (max running time followed by adequate off time) defined for each. I have never paid attention to the time I run the machine and have never over heated but I assume it is possible to do so.

If you want to do the experiment, I would do it with shaper as it is easy to completely remove the belt from the pulley and the spindle. I would not run it unattended.

Imran


On Jan 21, 2021, at 11:17 PM, Acharya Kumarnathaswami <kumar@...> wrote:

?I'm planning on replacing my Minimax 300 CU; year of manufacture: 2000. For several years I have experienced overheating of the saw and shaper motors when running the machine for extended periods, especially under heavy load, e.g., thick hardwood ripping on the saw.?

Is there any danger in letting the saw run with no load to see how long it will go before shutting itself off (which is had been doing). I want to test it before presenting it for sale. I did some cleanup on the shop wiring, which MAY have improved matters.

When the motor(s) have overheated in the past, they shut themselves off without tripping a breaker. After letting the saw sit and cool down, it would turn on again. This is not a production shop, so I rarely do long runs, only when I get a helper or two and have some extended time off from other duties for a special project.?

One more question: For a future owner, does this sound like something that could be remedied by having the motor rewound at a motor shop?
What does that procedure normally cost (if the motor tech thinks it will be effective?