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Re: Clamp-Together pipe for dust collection
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i know this isn't the advice you asked for but if going the CV route, consider the max and 7" mains with 5" or 6" drops.? You are running some decent sized equipment and the performance will be much better with a larger system.? The CV will add only about $250
and the pipe cost will likely increase another 250+ but well worth it.? 4" drops are a bed idea even with the 1800 but the 16" blade on the max will really pull cfm and either the 7" or 8" reducing to 7" down the line will increase cfm.? DC is all about reducing
the size of the dust envelope around the machine when in use and cfm is the best answer.?
Even if you stay with your original duct plan, for 250 you hedge against the downside with the Max.? If you guess wrong, the upcharge is much less than replacing the blower and cyclone.?? Dave
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Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:02 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] Clamp-Together pipe for dust collection #dustcollection ?
I'm following up on some research from a while back on dust collection ducting.?
A while back, one user here shared that"blastgateco.com has the very same ducting as Norfab at lease 35% less expensive." I see that there are four different product lines for the piping: CT pipe (the least expensive) and "heavy duty" ducting in five gauges: 12, 14, 16 and 18. I will most likely be getting the Clearvue CV1800 unit, with a 6" main duct and 4" drops. The unit will service five machines in a 25 x 20 foot area (with possibilities of reaching out to two other corners of the shop). The machines are a 20" jointer, KF 700, a 15" planer, a 19-39 Supermax sander and a SawStop table saw. Can anyone advise on what guage ducting to buy? (There's also the less expensive option of pvc sewer pipe, but I don't much like the look of it.)? |
Re: Clamp-Together pipe for dust collection
#dustcollection
开云体育Acharya, I can offer just a data point. My basic 5” spiral pipe (not clamp type) from Rockler is 24ga. I have no concerns that it will collapse under negative pressure and is plenty sturdy otherwise. Their 6” pipe is also 24ga. The larger the dia heavier the ga. I am not sure how long a section is of the clamped pipe you are considering and how close or afar are the hanging supports on it. Imran? On Jan 17, 2021, at 11:02 PM, Acharya Kumarnathaswami <kumar@...> wrote:
?I'm following up on some research from a while back on dust collection ducting.? A while back, one user here shared that"blastgateco.com has the very same ducting as Norfab at lease 35% less expensive." I see that there are four different product lines for the piping: CT pipe (the least expensive) and "heavy duty" ducting in five gauges: 12, 14, 16 and 18. I will most likely be getting the Clearvue CV1800 unit, with a 6" main duct and 4" drops. The unit will service five machines in a 25 x 20 foot area (with possibilities of reaching out to two other corners of the shop). The machines are a 20" jointer, KF 700, a 15" planer, a 19-39 Supermax sander and a SawStop table saw. Can anyone advise on what guage ducting to buy? (There's also the less expensive option of pvc sewer pipe, but I don't much like the look of it.)? |
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On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:18 AM, tomruth@... wrote:
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Re: Clamp-Together pipe for dust collection
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I have CT and been very happy with it throughout my shop. Blast Gate has been great to work with.
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Thanks, Chris Perren On Jan 17, 2021, at 10:02 PM, Acharya Kumarnathaswami <kumar@...> wrote: |
Clamp-Together pipe for dust collection
#dustcollection
I'm following up on some research from a while back on dust collection ducting.?
A while back, one user here shared that"blastgateco.com has the very same ducting as Norfab at lease 35% less expensive." I see that there are four different product lines for the piping: CT pipe (the least expensive) and "heavy duty" ducting in five gauges: 12, 14, 16 and 18. I will most likely be getting the Clearvue CV1800 unit, with a 6" main duct and 4" drops. The unit will service five machines in a 25 x 20 foot area (with possibilities of reaching out to two other corners of the shop). The machines are a 20" jointer, KF 700, a 15" planer, a 19-39 Supermax sander and a SawStop table saw. Can anyone advise on what guage ducting to buy? (There's also the less expensive option of pvc sewer pipe, but I don't much like the look of it.)? |
Re: Remote Start Switch suddenly stopped working on K700s
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On Sunday, January 17, 2021, 10:39:24 AM PST, G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:
thanks so much fellas ...i had overlooked? the cover plate in the back of the slide and lo and behold there was a battery there....popped a new one in and voila!!!?? thanks again!!!!!
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
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On Jan 17, 2021, at 12:55 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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It seems like i never throw anything away but the bearings are likely small and cheap.? The rotor, end bell, and fan blades might be worth saving and I don't know if the stator and windings can be removed to save the frame but that is all a lot of work for
what is a small frame not very expensive motor.? I'd never reuse motor bearings unless really desperate or they were precision direct drive motor and spindle bearings.? A complete motor is often cheaper than rewinding or repairing now.? Many smaller motors
are made in China now even if ABB or Leeson.? Dave
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Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:33 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping ?
Annu,
Glad you are up and running.
If it was me, I would at least open the old motor to see if the short is outside the windings. Like damaged insulation of the connecting wires. You cannot damage it much more.
Curious if any of our motor experts would recommend saving the old motor to salvage bearings if the need arose. It is not worth it for saving money but seems like a good way to insure against obsolescence.
Imran
On Jan 17, 2021, at 9:46 AM, annu.marwaha@... wrote: ?
[Edited Message Follows] Hey All, My hammer is now working.
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
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It seems like i never throw anything away but the bearings are likely small and cheap.? The rotor, end bell, and fan blades might be worth saving and I don't know if the stator and windings can be removed to save the frame but that is all a lot of work for
what is a small frame not very expensive motor.? I'd never reuse motor bearings unless really desperate or they were precision direct drive motor and spindle bearings.? A complete motor is often cheaper than rewinding or repairing now.? Many smaller motors
are made in China now even if ABB or Leeson.? Dave
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Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:33 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping ?
Annu,
Glad you are up and running.
If it was me, I would at least open the old motor to see if the short is outside the windings. Like damaged insulation of the connecting wires. You cannot damage it much more.
Curious if any of our motor experts would recommend saving the old motor to salvage bearings if the need arose. It is not worth it for saving money but seems like a good way to insure against obsolescence.
Imran
On Jan 17, 2021, at 9:46 AM, annu.marwaha@... wrote: ?
[Edited Message Follows] Hey All, My hammer is now working.
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Re: Remote Start Switch suddenly stopped working on K700s
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On Jan 17, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Michael Tagge <mike.j.tagge@...> wrote:
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On mine, I have separate main blade and scorer. I can only start remotely either one but cannot stop from there. However, there are 3 stops available for me as I am processing. One is at the near end of the saw, one at the saw specific controls, and the other
at the shaper. Haven’t found it to be anything I’m worried about. If you swing by I can show you.?
Michael Tagge
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Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:20:38 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Remote Start Switch suddenly stopped working on K700s ?
So I am to understand that the remote blade start switch that is located at the end of the slider (option from Felder) is wireless and battery operated?? If so, is that not a safety issue as what if the battery is bad/switch fails when one is trying to
turn the blade off?
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Re: Remote Start Switch suddenly stopped working on K700s
开云体育You still have other stop switches, at least on the models I am familiar with, along with the emergency stop. Imran? On Jan 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...> wrote:
?So I am to understand that the remote blade start switch that is located at the end of the slider (option from Felder) is wireless and battery operated?? If so, is that not a safety issue as what if the battery is bad/switch fails when one is trying to turn the blade off?
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Re: Remote Start Switch suddenly stopped working on K700s
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On mine, I have separate main blade and scorer. I can only start remotely either one but cannot stop from there. However, there are 3 stops available for me as I am processing. One is at the near end of the saw, one at the saw specific controls, and the other
at the shaper. Haven’t found it to be anything I’m worried about. If you swing by I can show you.?
Michael Tagge
Built Custom Carpentry?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:20:38 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Remote Start Switch suddenly stopped working on K700s ?
So I am to understand that the remote blade start switch that is located at the end of the slider (option from Felder) is wireless and battery operated?? If so, is that not a safety issue as what if the battery is bad/switch fails when one is trying to
turn the blade off?
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Re: Remote Start Switch suddenly stopped working on K700s
开云体育Not an issue, the stop on the newer saws is 24v run via the rail, only the start is remote. This was implemented due to eu rules that require a stop where there is a start (or something like that) to older saws only had startRegards, Mark On Jan 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...> wrote:
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
开云体育Annu, Glad you are up and running. If it was me, I would at least open the old motor to see if the short is outside the windings. Like damaged insulation of the connecting wires. You cannot damage it much more. Curious if any of our motor experts would recommend saving the old motor to salvage bearings if the need arose. It is not worth it for saving money but seems like a good way to insure against obsolescence. Imran On Jan 17, 2021, at 9:46 AM, annu.marwaha@... wrote:
? [Edited Message Follows] Hey All, My hammer is now working.
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Re: Remote Start Switch suddenly stopped working on K700s
So I am to understand that the remote blade start switch that is located at the end of the slider (option from Felder) is wireless and battery operated?? If so, is that not a safety issue as what if the battery is bad/switch fails when one is trying to turn the blade off?
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
开云体育Glad that worked, extruded aluminum is usually not too brittle, so I hoped that they wouldn’t crack. Also happy to hear that you really like the parallel fences!
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
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