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Re: AD 741 Loose Drive Belt

Gary Copus
 

I have not had an opportunity to run down all the suggestions made by the Group regarding
the floppy drive belt. . I did send the video clip to Felder and the clip is being sent to Austria.?
Hopefully by end of week?should know something.? I am using the machine and getting
great results - hope I am not?ruining something!

gary


Re: Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

Joe - I was bidding against you but I got out early. These don't come up often. Congrats!
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com


Re: Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

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You can't overpay for the right machine.? I've spent a lot of money proving that point.? dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:05 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me
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I probably overpaid but this is the first I’ve seen come up in 2-3 years

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason Holtz
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

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I almost bid against you Joe!

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765


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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

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Really sweet machine Joe.? Even if it turns out to need 460v, that machine is well worth the cost of a transformer.? I've got to research the Langzauner.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:20 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me
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I "won" today at auction an edge sander that I've been looking for at auction for a couple of years.? Apparently the Euro veneer sanders are scarce in the US.? This was has the feed belt built in with a top mounted pressure bar.? This machine was built for 230V/460V but it's wired for 460V so I will need to get that sorted.? And I will need to again order more Nordfab pipe.? Now the fingers crossed wait to make sure it arrives safely.

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Re: Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

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I probably overpaid but this is the first I’ve seen come up in 2-3 years

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason Holtz
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

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I almost bid against you Joe!

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765


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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

I almost bid against you Joe!

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Excellent Free Resource

 

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Oops, the bit below was about “Cabinet Making and Millwork” which was written as a college textbook for the millwork industry.? Love the other book too.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Jensen
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Excellent Free Resource

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Love that book.? In 1970 when I was 8 years old my dad got that book from the Reader’s Digest book club and he used it to learn how to build kitchen cabinets.? As the oldest I was the shop help and the shop was an unheated poorly sealed 80 year old garage with a dirt floor in rural Iowa. We built the kitchen cabinets with a 1940s Craftsman table saw and did the profiling with a table saw molding head with steel cutters and the panel raising as a bevel cut with the saw.? All sanding was by hand.? Dad didn’t have much money.? The Ash came from a tree that he had sawn up.? He bought and old 24” Parks planer with a square cutterhead driven by a 24HP gas engine.?

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I’ve given away several of those books over the years.? Great stuff

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Excellent Free Resource

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hi Murray,

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i found a used copy and ordered it. here are couple of links:

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Encyclopedia of Furniture Making

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imran?


On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:02 AM, murrayau1 <murraywp@...> wrote:

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Hi Imran

Thanks for sharing that link the book looks really useful. One of my go to books for problem-solving is the Encyclopaedia of Furniture Making by Ernest Joyce, updated by Alan Peters. There is a chapter on carcass building that refers to the Design Manual for Cabinet Furniture published by Furniture Development Council. I suspect that this book was published a very long time ago and I’m not even sure that the so-called Furniture Council still exists. But it sounds like a really useful guide to the structural design of cabinets for stiffness and longevity. I tried to track it down but can’t find a trace of it has anybody heard of this book?

Murray


Re: Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

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If it is a dual voltage machine 230/460, then all you should have to do is change the wiring connections and possibly some “heaters” if it uses them in the contactors (picture below). This is/was pretty common in the machine shop. Nice looking machine!



Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Dec 1, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:

I "won" today at auction an edge sander that I've been looking for at auction for a couple of years.? Apparently the Euro veneer sanders are scarce in the US.? This was has the feed belt built in with a top mounted pressure bar.? This machine was built for 230V/460V but it's wired for 460V so I will need to get that sorted.? And I will need to again order more Nordfab pipe.? Now the fingers crossed wait to make sure it arrives safely.

Listing Image


Re: Excellent Free Resource

 

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Love that book.? In 1970 when I was 8 years old my dad got that book from the Reader’s Digest book club and he used it to learn how to build kitchen cabinets.? As the oldest I was the shop help and the shop was an unheated poorly sealed 80 year old garage with a dirt floor in rural Iowa. We built the kitchen cabinets with a 1940s Craftsman table saw and did the profiling with a table saw molding head with steel cutters and the panel raising as a bevel cut with the saw.? All sanding was by hand.? Dad didn’t have much money.? The Ash came from a tree that he had sawn up.? He bought and old 24” Parks planer with a square cutterhead driven by a 24HP gas engine.?

?

I’ve given away several of those books over the years.? Great stuff

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Excellent Free Resource

?

hi Murray,

?

i found a used copy and ordered it. here are couple of links:

?

?

Encyclopedia of Furniture Making

?

imran?


On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:02 AM, murrayau1 <murraywp@...> wrote:

?

Hi Imran

Thanks for sharing that link the book looks really useful. One of my go to books for problem-solving is the Encyclopaedia of Furniture Making by Ernest Joyce, updated by Alan Peters. There is a chapter on carcass building that refers to the Design Manual for Cabinet Furniture published by Furniture Development Council. I suspect that this book was published a very long time ago and I’m not even sure that the so-called Furniture Council still exists. But it sounds like a really useful guide to the structural design of cabinets for stiffness and longevity. I tried to track it down but can’t find a trace of it has anybody heard of this book?

Murray


Re: Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

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I used a broker for a Felder shaper from Denver and I will use them for this.? The shaper was put on a pallet and wrapped in saran wrap by the seller.? Shipping with $10K of insurance and lift gate service on both ends, and an extra fee for a pickup from a storage rental center where there couldn’t get a truck in was only $650 which I thought was pretty good.? I’m tempted to drive and get this but it would be way more expensive.? No quote yet for shipping this one.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Davies
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

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I saw that...how did you work shipping?

Dave

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:20 PM Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:

I "won" today at auction an edge sander that I've been looking for at auction for a couple of years.? Apparently the Euro veneer sanders are scarce in the US.? This was has the feed belt built in with a top mounted pressure bar.? This machine was built for 230V/460V but it's wired for 460V so I will need to get that sorted.? And I will need to again order more Nordfab pipe.? Now the fingers crossed wait to make sure it arrives safely.

Listing Image


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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Milling tongue and groove panelling plus using power feeder on jointer

 

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I’ll add the opinion that a power feeder should almost be considered mandatory on the shaper.? I used a shaper for maybe 25 years without a power feeder because I believed it was only a production thing.? I ended up building 56 cabinet doors and decided to get a feeder for the job. WOW, the consistency of the cut, and the ability to climb cut.? I feel like I didn’t really get the full value from my shapers for the first 25 years.? Power feeders are pretty cheap on Craigslist if you live near a large city.? Here is Phoenix there are always a couple for sale for under $400.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 10:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Milling tongue and groove panelling plus using power feeder on jointer

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I omitted a part in my earlier comment.? A power feeder could be about the only safe way to climb cut on a molder.? This could be handy when working with a difficult material.


Re: Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

I saw that...how did you work shipping?
Dave

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:20 PM Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:
I "won" today at auction an edge sander that I've been looking for at auction for a couple of years.? Apparently the Euro veneer sanders are scarce in the US.? This was has the feed belt built in with a top mounted pressure bar.? This machine was built for 230V/460V but it's wired for 460V so I will need to get that sorted.? And I will need to again order more Nordfab pipe.? Now the fingers crossed wait to make sure it arrives safely.

Listing Image



--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Langzauner LZK-3-NCV Edge Sander - new to me

 

I "won" today at auction an edge sander that I've been looking for at auction for a couple of years.? Apparently the Euro veneer sanders are scarce in the US.? This was has the feed belt built in with a top mounted pressure bar.? This machine was built for 230V/460V but it's wired for 460V so I will need to get that sorted.? And I will need to again order more Nordfab pipe.? Now the fingers crossed wait to make sure it arrives safely.

Listing Image


Re: Screws

 

Thanks for the tip, Jonathan. The HECO Topix screws look similar to GRK but in stainless, with a finer finish and some variations in the screw and milling tips. They look really good and available in the US via Amazon, surprisingly.? .?
Their catalog has an impressive array of screws for buildings as well - no wonder German houses don't fall over in the wind!
BR
Eric


On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Steve Hubbard <hubbardsg@...> wrote:
David,
Thanks for the reference. That is a new source for me.
Steve

On Dec 1, 2020, at 11:33 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:

Bill,
? You may want to give Quickscrews a call.



Dave Davies

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 11:24 AM Bill James via??<xxrb2010=[email protected]> wrote:
Following up on Assy plus screw for plywood cabinet,

I would like to try some new screws for plywood cabinet carcasses.?I called the local Wurth and they only have 2" in stock, but I can order any size they do not have in stock. So, what size is a good size for 3/4 plywood. I currently use 1.5" screw from rockler, but this is what I have and no idea if good or not.

Thanks,

Bill




--?
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Screws

 

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David,
Thanks for the reference. That is a new source for me.
Steve

On Dec 1, 2020, at 11:33 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:

Bill,
? You may want to give Quickscrews a call.



Dave Davies

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 11:24 AM Bill James via??<xxrb2010=[email protected]> wrote:
Following up on Assy plus screw for plywood cabinet,

I would like to try some new screws for plywood cabinet carcasses.?I called the local Wurth and they only have 2" in stock, but I can order any size they do not have in stock. So, what size is a good size for 3/4 plywood. I currently use 1.5" screw from rockler, but this is what I have and no idea if good or not.

Thanks,

Bill




--?
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Screws

 

I use the quick screws in #8x2" square drive for case construction. They don't need any predrill in a lot of materials.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: anyone interested in slider nuts

 

Here's the other Austrian version of a handle. Never considered the finger smashing, as this one takes care of that problem as well.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Screws

 

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1-1/2 is what I use for general box building, like the spax torx from HD

Regards, Mark

On Dec 1, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Bill James via groups.io <xxrb2010@...> wrote:

?Following up on Assy plus screw for plywood cabinet,

I would like to try some new screws for plywood cabinet carcasses.?I called the local Wurth and they only have 2" in stock, but I can order any size they do not have in stock. So, what size is a good size for 3/4 plywood. I currently use 1.5" screw from rockler, but this is what I have and no idea if good or not.

Thanks,

Bill


Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC

 

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Got notified my K940s will be in a month early a few weeks ago...

Regards, Mark

On Dec 1, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:

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Shipping lines are pretty tenuous these days - are you sure it didn't say January 2022 ?

I had items shipped that arrived here in containers yet took a full month just to pass import inspections and get out of the port.

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Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

314.772.2167
brett@...


Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC

 

Shipping lines are pretty tenuous these days - are you sure it didn't say January 2022 ?

I had items shipped that arrived here in containers yet took a full month just to pass import inspections and get out of the port.

--
Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

314.772.2167
brett@...