Re: Shark Universal Overhead Guard Model S-12S
This style of guard and collector was the subject of much discussion not long ago.
The seed was planted that I needed a better way for my shop.
How does this unit compete when priced at $950 with shipping, less taxes to the versions that are available?
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Hi for those that have Barth tables and ?My clamps I do make posts to fit.
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On Oct 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Randy Child via groups.io <strongman_one@...> wrote:
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Thanks.. I really wanted / needed a lift table but was not going to pay the amount for a Barth..was just way too expensive
On Friday, October 30, 2020, 08:09:14 AM PDT, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:
Just sayin :)....(see attached photo)
Randy, you accomplished the same at a 10th the cost. My day started out pretty good but now...
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com
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Ten woodworking tools you have to see
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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Hi Kerry, Lots of eye candy on the tour, and (for me, the best part) ideas on how to organize,?esp. all the shaper?cutters. It looks a lot larger than the 2,000 sq ft that your website says it is - maybe you expanded? GREAT equipment, I agree that you pay once for the best and it saves you time and money down the road - it's not about how much you pay for some random thing, it's about what you get for what you pay. There were multiple calibration dials - is there a specific use for each, or was it (as is the case for me) just one more, I have to try this one...? North Bennet Street - ever run into Mark Singer? (way back...) Lastly, the collection of goods on the website attests to a love of the craft, congratulations. Cheers Eric
Kerry well done.?
Nice having gear you love to use.?
It is always a treat visiting another maker's workshop and seeing your video is the next best thing to being there.
Well done too for such a good cleanup and vid.??
Cheers, David??
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Kerry well done.?
Nice having gear you love to use.?
It is always a treat visiting another maker's workshop and seeing your video is the next best thing to being there.
Well done too for such a good cleanup and vid.??
Cheers, David??
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Thanks.. I really wanted / needed a lift table but was not going to pay the amount for a Barth..was just way too expensive
On Friday, October 30, 2020, 08:09:14 AM PDT, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:
Just sayin :)....(see attached photo)
Randy, you accomplished the same at a 10th the cost. My day started out pretty good but now...
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com
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wow, David. Mic drop!
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com
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Re: Hammer B3 electrical problem
#hammer
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On Oct 30, 2020, at 3:38 PM, sam via groups.io <sam@...> wrote: ?Thyristors replaced - seems to be sorted, full days use with no issues! Again thanks Davy at least for adding the word thyristor to my vocabulary.
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while ?
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On Oct 30, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? Imran, your memory is better than mine. Cost was $35.61 at 55% infill and the print time was 19hr 53m in oynx which is a Markforged proprietary material (nylon with carbon fiber). The same print in reg nylon is $24.35 and the print time is 37hr On Oct 28, 2020, at 8:45 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Mark,
i remember what was posted to be on the expensive side, from my point of view. i could be remembering the item incorrectly though.
imran
On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don¡¯t think it was $20.
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Re: Hammer B3 electrical problem
#hammer
Thyristors replaced - seems to be sorted, full days use with no issues! Again thanks Davy at least for adding the word thyristor to my vocabulary.
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
Hi Bill, it is 4¡± unfortunately I cannot as it was done at work, I couldn¡¯t even get you the CAD file as my CAD tube is monitored for downloads
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On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Bill B¨¦langer <Bllblngr@...> wrote:
? Mark, is that a 4" hose? Can you print me one?
Bill B¨¦langer
Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don¡¯t think it was $20.
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
Imran, your memory is better than mine. Cost was $35.61 at 55% infill and the print time was 19hr 53m in oynx which is a Markforged proprietary material (nylon with carbon fiber). The same print in reg nylon is $24.35 and the print time is 37hr
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On Oct 28, 2020, at 8:45 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Mark,
i remember what was posted to be on the expensive side, from my point of view. i could be remembering the item incorrectly though.
imran
On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don¡¯t think it was $20.
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Re: Shark Universal Overhead Guard Model S-12S
I checked with Harvey and with the 52" width, the 1-inch over the 51" width for the Felder should be okay theoretically giving room for a 1" dado, and more so with the tilting blade cover.
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Now that is mega sweet.? Dave
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Just sayin ?:-) ? Full details here: ???
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Date:?October 30, 2020 at 8:09:02 AM PDT
Just sayin :)....(see attached photo)
Randy, you accomplished the same at a 10th the cost. My day started out pretty good but now...
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
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Just sayin ?:-) ? Full details here: ???
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Just sayin :)....(see attached photo) Randy, you accomplished the same at a 10th the cost. My day started out pretty good but now... --? Kerry SmithGotham Woodworks
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¡°I can already tell my shop is too small. ?It can't be that I have too many tools, it just can't be.¡±
reminds me of my trip to builtmore. i noted that the bed was tiny and upon inquiring if vanderbilts were diminutive i was informed about the size of the room. i remember it was close to our 1st house which was bit over 1000 sqft. oh! to be clear you have the exact opposite problem ?and i can relate to it ?
imran
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On Oct 30, 2020, at 1:29 PM, shupe5402@... wrote: I can already tell my shop is too small. ?It can't be that I have too many tools, it just can't be.
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OK, just to close the loop on this...
The electric company tested my line, and the power was 246, so no issues there. ?Turns out my electrician needed a new voltmeter.
However, the machine still would not run, so today a very excellent Felder tech came out from the DFW office and found a neutral wire that was not connected properly by the factory. ?He fixed it.
So... ?the machine now runs, the electricity is good, and my next step is to figure out what the design of my dust collection system should be so I can get it all hooked up.
I have an Oneida collector, so they will help with the design once I get my machines placed in their permanent homes.
I can already tell my shop is too small. ?It can't be that I have too many tools, it just can't be.
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Re: Shark Universal Overhead Guard Model S-12S
I looked at the harvey guard some years ago because I though I could fit it on my old Robinson.? I'm not sure it will handle a 16" blade or a 12" with scoring.? If no scoring, it should work.? Dave
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I received a message from Harvey doing an intro offer on their saw guard.? At first look, it appears to be a reasonable copy of the others where have seen here, and takes 12" blades and 52" cutting width.? As I recall my 2004 KF 700s has a 51" cutting
width.? At $949.00 + SST may be competitive.? I am getting too old to be an early adapter, but I'd like a better blade guard and dust collector.
I'd appreciate feedback.
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Shark Universal Overhead Guard Model S-12S
I received a message from Harvey doing an intro offer on their saw guard.? At first look, it appears to be a reasonable copy of the others where have seen here, and takes 12" blades and 52" cutting width.? As I recall my 2004 KF 700s has a 51" cutting width.? At $949.00 + SST may be competitive.? I am getting too old to be an early adapter, but I'd like a better blade guard and dust collector.
I'd appreciate feedback.
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i have the festool guide with holes but no festool router. i put blue tape on guide and router base a thin line on both for hole location reference. diligently referenced guide for every row and drilled.
everything went fine but i forgot about the replaceable 1/8¡± thick hardboard top when checking clamp compatibility (hole size and top thickness). glad my margin helped and rounding over the holes on the hardboard allows me to place clamps in.
paulk design is two 2x8 tables that can be joined. it did not want to commit that much space. i made a 4x4 with cabinet below and 2 side wings (2x4 each) to get to 4x8. i have used the wings couple of times but with k975 addition, i do not think they will get used again.
imran
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On Oct 30, 2020, at 11:05 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: ? Barth workbench table top is 30mm thick. Laminating 3/4" and 1/2" 4x8 BB plywood with laminate sheet on the face and bottom would work, roughly $250 material cost. Using LR32, you can drill those holes with CNC precision.
James
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:48 AM Randy Child via <strongman_one= [email protected]> wrote:
When I used Joel's Barth table, I looked closely at the thickness of the top and it was 1-1/4" thick.? That's what I went off of.? I had a 3/4" melamine top before I made my MFT top that I have now and the melamine did not work very well.
While the Barth tables are nice, I wanted a larger table where I could put tall pantry or refrigerator cabinets on it and not have them hang off the ends and have plenty of room to work.?
What's even better is the fact I can raise or lower the table to a comfortable working height no matter what I'm working on and lower the table all the way down to just slide the cabinet off the table and onto a dolly or up to my truck beds height.? It's been a really good addition to my shop
On Friday, October 30, 2020, 07:00:57 AM PDT, imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote:
top is 3/4¡± prefinished maple used for cabinets. i am more concerned with depth. dogs are commonly used on thick top benches. while a low profile dog will definitely work on my top i am just not sure if clamp would.
good to have this info. i can always glue another layer.
imran On Oct 30, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Randy Child via <strongman_one= [email protected]> wrote: ?
it depends on what the top is made of and just how much pressure you exert on the clamp.. If the top is MDF, or melamine probably not.? My top is double layer of 13 ply Baltic birch so it has the "mass" to keep from distorting the hole when clamping
On Thursday, October 29, 2020, 08:20:07 PM PDT, imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote:
Randy and James,
i am using these
i wonder if the dog style (like you are showing) will work with only 3/4¡± thick top. i could not find that info on the bessey website.
any ideas?
imran On Oct 29, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Randy Child via <strongman_one= [email protected]> wrote: ?
Hi Imran..
I bought the Bessey hold down clamps off of Zoro they are # TW16-20-10-2K.? The adapters are from Lehigh valley abrasives and are part #?
Bessey TW16AW20 - Table Clamp Accessory, Woodworking 20mm Bench Dog Adaptor, 16mm
SKU: BSYTW16AW20
If you need the 3/4"size I have 2 that I no longer need since I went with 20mm holes
On Thursday, October 29, 2020, 07:36:24 PM PDT, James Zhu < james.zhu2@...> wrote:
Iman,
Barth table uses hold down clamp, fast forward to 3:08 in the following youtube video, you can see the hold down clamp which is different from the Festool clamp, obviously it is faster and easier to use than Festool clamp :)
You can get the hold down clamp, but I am not sure where to get the adapter?
James
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 9:13 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Randy,
which bessey hold down do you use? i have built similar table. i use festool clamps but with only 3/4¡± thick top i still needed to use a round over bit on 3/4¡± holes to get the clamps to fit.
imran On Oct 29, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Randy Child via <strongman_one= [email protected]> wrote: ?
I forgot to mention.. this entire lift table and paulk/mft top probably cost me around $1,000 for everything.? The Bessey hold downs, I found on Zoro for $29.00 each and the 20mm adapters I found online for $9.99 each.. a far cry from the $125 each from Barth?
On Thursday, October 29, 2020, 05:45:16 PM PDT, Randy Child via <strongman_one= [email protected]> wrote:
yes..It's 2 layers of 3/4" Russian Baltic birch? with 13 plies each and a light gray plastic laminate, and yep..I used the woodpeckers jig to route 300 holes!! took me quite a long time, but it worked..
On Thursday, October 29, 2020, 05:34:47 PM PDT, Joe Kurtz < jkurtz505@...> wrote:
Very nice, Randy! It looks great! Is that a double layer of Baltic birch laminated with white melamine as the top? Did you drill the holes?
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