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Re: Storage of sheet goods
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI don¡¯t use a ton of plywood.? The most I¡¯ve used was to build 18 ft of lowers for my saw station.? I do have lots of variety and partial sheets which I mostly use to make jigs and quick things around the home.? I have pretty much shifted to only buying BB in half sheet format.? For hardwood veneer ply I saw my own 1/8¡± veneers and vacuum press to BB ply.? In the old shop I had about 12¡± of space between the cantilever rack and the wall and I had a lower shelf that could fit ?4 by 8 sheets on the long side, and a shelf about that could handle 2 ft by 8 ft laying on the long side.? The pain of that was I had to have like 9 ft open along the wall to get anything out. ? The appeal of the casters was to have full sheets on one and shorts on the other.? I saw another where they had it fixed on a pivot at one end.? I¡¯ve always stored vertically but always on the long side to try to minimize warp.? Maybe I¡¯ll try a vertical rack next to the dust collector.? How much space width wise before you would add a divider? ? ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 10:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Storage of sheet goods ? Joe, ? after I sold the cart like you posted I did what Jason has done and used drywall carts to move and store plywood for projects then put the leftovers on the cantilever rack.? ? Like Imran said the cart you posted can be hard to move when loaded parts because it is so big it requires too much space as you need to be able to access it from all sides and I remember having several sheets of plywood on it and having a difficult time because the it wanted roll when trying to get sheets from the inside. ? ? Using that cart really was an exercise in frustration. ? Joe not in NO ? ?
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMark, i remember what was posted to be on the expensive side, from my point of view. i could be remembering the item incorrectly though. imran On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
?Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don¡¯t think it was $20. <image.jpg> Regards, Mark |
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
Mark, is that a 4" hose? Can you print me one? Bill B¨¦langer On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 3:01 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
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Re: Storage of sheet goods
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHere is my former plywood rack. I used both sides for whole sheets and the center for smaller scraps. It took a lot of floor space and was annoying to get to something not on top of the pile. I gave it away on Craigslist. I am a hobbyist, so I pretty much only buy what I need for a project, so most of my storage is scraps which fit under my CNC router. ? ? ? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> ? joe, ? Joe not in NO brings a good point about access to both sides and refreshes memories. so i can add a few things: ? I can say that it was never something that i was pleased with. the purpose of casters for me was never to move it to a machine, rather necessary for me to get it out of the way. nothing i stored on it was too heavy - don¡¯t recall storing full sheets. ? after having it, i believe, for shorts, best is to find a wasted space and stick it in there. i have a 4¡¯x4¡¯ stair landing ~3¡¯ above floor accessible from one side and i may convert that into a matrix of cubbies for shorts. otherwise bins for vertical storage. ? for ply cutoffs the cart is just a vertical storage with a leaning wall. can be easily duplicated in a fixed location. ? just my $0.02. ? imran
?Joe, ? after I sold the cart like you posted I did what Jason has done and used drywall carts to move and store plywood for projects then put the leftovers on the cantilever rack.? ? Like Imran said the cart you posted can be hard to move when loaded parts because it is so big it requires too much space as you need to be able to access it from all sides and I remember having several sheets of plywood on it and having a difficult time because the it wanted roll when trying to get sheets from the inside. ? ? Using that cart really was an exercise in frustration. ? Joe not in NO ? ?
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýImran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don¡¯t think it was $20.Regards, Mark |
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
I think the dust port adapter was printed in nylon. Nylon is about twice the price compared to PLA, which I used. Strength wise I don't think the adapter needed to be printed in nylon.
The diamond pattern was needed in order to both loose weight and to be sturdy. By using 30 degree angles I could minimize the overhang at the top of each diamond. 3D printers print layer by layer, so it's hard to print in mid air. Overhang up to approx 45 degree is ok. I learned this lesson while trying to print the below model. The round holes makes the overhang completely unsupported and the print didn't go very well. |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýthe diamond perforated design is beautiful. material cost is very reasonable. IIRC, last datapoint was $20-$30 for the overhead saw guard rectangular to round dust port adapter. maybe it required a more robust material, for obvious reasons. imran On Oct 28, 2020, at 4:40 PM, michael@... wrote:
?Material cost for the 125 mm version is about 5 USD each. I went through some iterations, mostly to learn what I could print. Material cost for those varied from about 3 USD to 8 USD. The cheapest one was also the most complicated because I tried to remove as much material as possible, it took 25 hours to print. <Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 21.38.25.png> <Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 21.38.31.png>
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
Material cost for the 125 mm version is about 5 USD each.
I went through some iterations, mostly to learn what I could print. Material cost for those varied from about 3 USD to 8 USD. The cheapest one was also the most complicated because I tried to remove as much material as possible, it took 25 hours to print. |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýawesome storage, not to mention the cool factor. beats my poor excuse made with scrap. does not hold RO90 paper. any idea how much these cost in just material? imran On Oct 28, 2020, at 4:08 PM, michael@... wrote:
?I have been thinking of getting a 3D printer for many years. I finally took the plunge about a week ago. Where ever I look I now see opportunities for 3D printed objects. There are also plenty of business opportunities, although I won't look into these before I've learned much more. Thought I might inspire some people here who are thinking about getting one. The coolest thing to me is that the things I create can be tailored exactly for my needs. I have queued a bunch of print jobs with sandpaper holders to the printer. Soon I'll have complete order in my sand paper piles. The measurements for these boxes are made to exactly match my Systainer drawers. 3D printing takes very long time, these boxes prints in about 7 hours each. But the important thing is that they'll print completely unattended. I print at night and prepare the printer for the next job in the morning. <Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 20.57.01.png>
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3D printer usage for wood shop
I have been thinking of getting a 3D printer for many years. I finally took the plunge about a week ago. Where ever I look I now see opportunities for 3D printed objects. There are also plenty of business opportunities, although I won't look into these before I've learned much more. Thought I might inspire some people here who are thinking about getting one. The coolest thing to me is that the things I create can be tailored exactly for my needs.
I have queued a bunch of print jobs with sandpaper holders to the printer. Soon I'll have complete order in my sand paper piles. The measurements for these boxes are made to exactly match my Systainer drawers. 3D printing takes very long time, these boxes prints in about 7 hours each. But the important thing is that they'll print completely unattended. I print at night and prepare the printer for the next job in the morning. |
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Re: Storage of sheet goods
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýjoe, Joe not in NO brings a good point about access to both sides and refreshes memories. so i can add a few things: I can say that it was never something that i was pleased with. the purpose of casters for me was never to move it to a machine, rather necessary for me to get it out of the way. nothing i stored on it was too heavy - don¡¯t recall storing full sheets. after having it, i believe, for shorts, best is to find a wasted space and stick it in there. i have a 4¡¯x4¡¯ stair landing ~3¡¯ above floor accessible from one side and i may convert that into a matrix of cubbies for shorts. otherwise bins for vertical storage. for ply cutoffs the cart is just a vertical storage with a leaning wall. can be easily duplicated in a fixed location. just my $0.02. imran On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:58 PM, bacchus6015 via groups.io <joeinno@...> wrote:
?Joe, after I sold the cart like you posted I did what Jason has done and used drywall carts to move and store plywood for projects then put the leftovers on the cantilever rack.? Like Imran said the cart you posted can be hard to move when loaded parts because it is so big it requires too much space as you need to be able to access it from all sides and I remember having several sheets of plywood on it and having a difficult time because the it wanted roll when trying to get sheets from the inside. ? Using that cart really was an exercise in frustration. Joe not in NO
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Very nice setup! Bill B¨¦langer? On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:27 Mark McFarlane <markamcfarlane@...> wrote: I have a vertical storage rack with EMT conduit as dividers. If you keep a slot full there is no room for wood movement.? The rack is right at the end of my siding saw.? I can slide a sheet out and easily lay it on the slider. |
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Re: Storage of sheet goods
We have a drywall cart that has a UMHW?base on it, holds 10-15 sheets depending on thickness. It has really nice 5" casters on it, all 4 swivel but 2 have the option to lock straight although we never do. It rolls perfectly across our asphalt driveway, even when covered in walnut tree debris. If sheets are going to be used in short order they just stay on the cart. If storage is needed for a bit longer, I can just unload it straight into the vertical rack. I just slide the sheet off one end, tilt it up on a corner and slide it standing up into the rack. When it's time to use it, slide it out of the rack and tilt it down right onto the saw. The only time I ever lift a sheet is when it's coming off the delivery truck and two of us do that so it's easy.
We also have the Hafele Adapta Cart (tilting one) It's okay, but not nearly as nice for moving stuff around as the other. It's big and clumsy in comparison and the wheels aren't as smooth. Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 |
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