Keyboard Shortcuts
Likes
- Felderownersgroup
- Messages
Search
Re: KF700S Not Starting
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMore info 1phase 3 phase , vfd ? ?martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 11, 2020, at 8:07 AM, fa18frog via groups.io <fa18frog@...> wrote:
|
KF700S Not Starting
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFelder Folks,
I used my the Shaper this morning, then switched to saw and it is not starting. I¡¯ve tried:
Neither the saw nor shaper will start.?
Any guidance is appreciated.?
Toby
Get
|
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Here is a source with some good info and links,
Jerry P Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans. "You can observe a lot by watching."? Yogi Berra |
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Alan Mix
Thanks Imran. I do have a volt meter and will try to check. Good stuff. Alan
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Oct 10, 2020, at 10:25 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote: |
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAlan, here is the link for relay datasheet: it is 24V SPST NO relay with following pin configuration: when there is 24V between A1 & A2 pins 11 and 14 should be shorted otherwise open.? not sure if you have a volt meter and whether you are comfortable with making measurements. if you would like to troubleshoot, i would start by confirming that you have 24VDC available in the saw. Imran On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?Great idea Imran. ?Thanks I¡¯m not competent to do that, but I can find someone who is. Alan. On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:35 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote: Alan, are you able to verify that the siemens relays are working or not. i do see them available via internet search on PN. imran On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote: ?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. ?I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997, Type 342.186.15) and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. ?According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. ?There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. ?I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. ?I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. ?I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached. Thanks to all.... Alan Mix Corvallis, OR, USA <IMG_2529.jpeg> <IMG_2530.jpeg> <IMG_2538.jpeg> |
Re: How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCut the pallet up and remove were you want the Oak skids to go Attach and roll out.Just need a reciprocating saw and ?BFH and pry bar just beet what you don¡¯t want out trash it. Than change the direction after you get it on flat floor in your shop. For this stuff , IT is nice to have toe jacks , solid rollers , 5¡¯ pry bars , machine trollies and on and on? Mac,,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 10, 2020, at 12:20 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
|
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Alan Mix
Thanks Mark. It is funny about these little Incas. Everyone seems to have affection for them. I got mine for free from the original owner who didn¡¯t want to restore it. Other than the switch problem, it had a horrible wheel wobble and vibration because of a hack job when he hired someone to fix a bad bearing on the top wheel and that guy tried to make his own, which apparently lasted about five minutes. I got a new top wheel and bearings from incamachines.com in France. My needed wheel was not listed on their web page, but I talked to them and they were wonderfully helpful nice people. They had one lying around, listed it on the web page for me, and I had it in my hands a couple of days later fedex from small town France to small town Oregon. Worked perfectly. So, if anyone else is looking for parts not obvious on their web page, just email them. They are delightful people to work with, and even when they didn¡¯t have what I needed, they gave good advice. I hope that helps everyone. But of course they don¡¯t have everything, especially for US models.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Oct 10, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: |
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI have the same inca bandsaw, I thought it was a regular ol¡¯ switch. Jessie will take care of you, i bought the Inca bandsaw and the 2100 TS from him in 92¡¯. I sold that tablesaw about a year ago for $1200. And that was after using it in my business with 4-5 employees and I even had a power feeder on itMine has really bad vibration but i use it just for rough tight radius stuff, i do want to fully restore it at some point as I am quite attached to it, Jessie said he could help get to the bottom of the vibration issue but I haven¡¯t had time to connect Regards, Mark On Oct 10, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
|
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Alan Mix
Thanks David.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Yes, I already have an email off to Jesse, as he used to sell Inca tools and Eagle Tools is a great source. I also tried Garrett-Wade (their phone number is on a sticker on the machine, so that is where it was purchased by the previous owner) but they don¡¯t stock old parts. Thanks again. Alan On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:44 PM, David Sabo via groups.io <sabo_dave@...> wrote: |
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Alan Mix
Great idea Imran. Thanks I¡¯m not competent to do that, but I can find someone who is.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Alan. On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:35 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote: |
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAlan, are you able to verify that the siemens relays are working or not. i do see them available via internet search on PN. imran On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. ?I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997,?Type 342.186.15)?and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. ?According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines?The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. ?There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. ?I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. ?I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. ?I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.? Thanks to all....? Alan Mix Corvallis, OR, USA <IMG_2529.jpeg> <IMG_2530.jpeg> <IMG_2538.jpeg> |
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Alan Mix
Thanks TJ Cornish. There is a safety interlock, but it appears to have broken a long time ago and the two wire from the interlock are joined to bypass. The former owner inked a note on the cover that the interlock was gone, with a caution to unplug from the wall when taking off the cover (apparently from a bad experience).
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Some generic starter set is a backup plan, for sure, if I can¡¯t find the orginal part. I don¡¯t know what electronic functions are buried in those Seimens chips. The incamachine guys referred to it a poor design decision of the late 1980s. Oh well. On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:25 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote: |
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
David Sabo
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:25 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
|
Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAre there safety interlocks on the machine? If not, any generic magnetic motor starter set for the appropriate motor current should be fine.? On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
|
Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Alan Mix
I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. ?I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997,?Type 342.186.15)?and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. ?According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines?The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. ?There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. ?I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. ?I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. ?I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.?
Thanks to all....? Alan Mix Corvallis, OR, USA |
Re: How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý
Joe, is there a threaded hole in the upper arm behind the wheel for an eyebolt?? The PH weighs 1800 lbs and supposedly the C frame is thick and reinforced.? Minimum height is listed at 6'9" so you must be close ( 7' doors should be outlawed ).? Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 12:55 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet ?
The challenge I¡¯m seeing is there is not places I can see to attach straps to.? If I remove the top wheel and brake stuff I could lift from the top of the arm but I¡¯m not sure that¡¯s strong enough.? I¡¯d really like to work on the machine in the shop and not on the driveway in the sun.? The seller (LA School District) obviously lifted it onto a pallet so there must be a way to lift it off the pallet.? Maybe their lift was sketchy and most certainly was done with a forklift.? There is a ring on the motor and I¡¯m told that giant 875 RPM 5HP motor weights 350 lbs.? I can¡¯t see lifting the machine from that ring as it¡¯s too low and the machine would rotate. ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
David Davies ? I bought a HF gantry crane to lift my MM bandsaw off the pallet Dave Davies ? On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 11:26 AM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
? --
Dave & Marie Davies
|
Re: How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe challenge I¡¯m seeing is there is not places I can see to attach straps to.? If I remove the top wheel and brake stuff I could lift from the top of the arm but I¡¯m not sure that¡¯s strong enough.? I¡¯d really like to work on the machine in the shop and not on the driveway in the sun.? The seller (LA School District) obviously lifted it onto a pallet so there must be a way to lift it off the pallet.? Maybe their lift was sketchy and most certainly was done with a forklift.? There is a ring on the motor and I¡¯m told that giant 875 RPM 5HP motor weights 350 lbs.? I can¡¯t see lifting the machine from that ring as it¡¯s too low and the machine would rotate. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Davies
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 9:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet ? I bought a HF gantry crane to lift my MM bandsaw off the pallet Dave Davies ? On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 11:26 AM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
? -- Dave & Marie Davies |
Re: How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet
I bought a HF gantry crane to lift my MM bandsaw off the pallet Dave Davies On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 11:26 AM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
--
Dave & Marie Davies 318-219-7868 |
Re: How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý
I've not lifted mine but I'm assuming the top wheel itself is too high and not just the guard rail.? The good news is a good condition PH probably has better resale value than a 36".? They are much rarer.? Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 12:14 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet ?
Hi all, I am back from picking up the Tannewitz I bought on auction.? I'm disappointed that it was a PH 30" and not a 36" but that's a risk I took with the sketchy listing.? At $775 with only one small broken part I think I did ok.? It's in a the bed of
a drop deck trailer out front of my shop. The pallet its strapped to is 6" high making it a couple inches too tall to roll into the shop.? I want to lift it off the pallet and place the permanent oak skids underneath.? I don't see any factory lift points.?
?I'm sure someone here has done this.? There will be many more questions, the brake system must be non-functional as an electronic brake.? I will want to get that all back to original
|