Re: Cutting mitered bridal joint
Thank you David.?It means alot to get such nice words.
And, I agree. I have a Domino. It’s convinient, but the joints doesn’t speak anything.?
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 2:37 PM Marlowe McGraw via <marlomcgraw= [email protected]> wrote: If it run smoothly,? you're golden.?
Marlowe?
What do I look for, just vibration?
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Correct Marlowe.? Downside is they are very expensive to repair if a problem.? Wheel condition is actually more important than motor.? I don't have a saw with Carter wheels but have heard stories
of problems.? When good, they are the pick of the litter though.? Dave
I suspect that one reason they can run at very high speeds is the Carter fabricated wheels.? ?Balance on those must be close to perfect as opposed to big cast iron?wheels.? They would also be much easier to brake with the lower inertia.?
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 11:13 AM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
Well done.? I would not expect the motor to be an issue, even if you need to rewind.? It isn't like the pancake design of the Oliver.? Just a large frame motor.? Many Tanny came with 1200 rpm motors
and ran at 11000 fpm so hopefully this one will be slower.? Those saws were balanced so well they could run at very high speeds if you can keep up with the feed rate.? DAve
$775 plus 10% buyers premium.? We’ll see if it was a good deal once I see the motor run
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Joe ask the rigger his cost.
I always like to block the base on the deck , you Weill need some donage 2x4 4x4 1 by?
Like Dave said block the table the trunnion is the week point.?
Important make sure ?all levers are clamped.
Personally I like the drop bed.?
And there are those among us that have one in there warehouse,,, Dave!!
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years
?More data.? The warehouse where it is located has forklifts and they will lift onto a trailer. I have a friend who can help me load there and by chance he is driving from LA to Phoenix that day.? I have two options.
1) I rent a drop deck trailer and drive from Phoenix to LA, spend the night, and on the next day the seller forklifts on the trailer.? When I get home unload with pallet jack.
2) Friend has access to a car trailer.? I fly out and we have the seller forklift onto the car trailer.? We would then drive it back with his Ford Expedition and then rent a forklift in Phoenix to unload.? I've never driven a forklift so there is that.
I know the rental drop deck trailer would have great tires etc.? Any idea on what a rigger would charge to unload?
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Re: Cutting mitered bridal joint
Beautiful! For outright sex appeal, your joint pisses all over the usual mitre plus domino or mitre plus dowel iteration.?
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On 8 Oct 2020, at 6:06 am, michael@... wrote:
? <DC7F87CA-1B4B-48DA-958C-CA1F21C24980.jpeg> <40DBBFF8-4ACD-4A46-97D2-BA95674E8A66.jpeg> Some images of the completed joint. It took some cuts before I had it dialed in. The next time I’ll probably dial it in quite fast when I know the ins and outs.?
some take aways:
- clamp pieces to fence AND to the table to get exact height.?
- remove dust BEFORE clamping the next piece.?
- the shims are NOT to spec. Measure them ?
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Re: Cutting mitered bridal joint
  Some images of the completed joint. It took some cuts before I had it dialed in. The next time I’ll probably dial it in quite fast when I know the ins and outs.?
some take aways:
- clamp pieces to fence AND to the table to get exact height.?
- remove dust BEFORE clamping the next piece.?
- the shims are NOT to spec. Measure them ?
?
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I have an older A3-31, and if I do not keep the planer bed waxed, I get “grabbing” and snipe in the infeed. ?I don’t know if this will help on the out feed. ?I use Johnson furniture wax to lubricate the jointer and planer beds.
-David
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If it run smoothly,? you're golden.?
Marlowe?
What do I look for, just vibration?
?
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Correct Marlowe.? Downside is they are very expensive to repair if a problem.? Wheel condition is actually more important than motor.? I don't have a saw with Carter wheels but have heard stories
of problems.? When good, they are the pick of the litter though.? Dave
I suspect that one reason they can run at very high speeds is the Carter fabricated wheels.? ?Balance on those must be close to perfect as opposed to big cast iron?wheels.? They would also be much easier to brake with the lower inertia.?
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 11:13 AM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
Well done.? I would not expect the motor to be an issue, even if you need to rewind.? It isn't like the pancake design of the Oliver.? Just a large frame motor.? Many Tanny came with 1200 rpm motors
and ran at 11000 fpm so hopefully this one will be slower.? Those saws were balanced so well they could run at very high speeds if you can keep up with the feed rate.? DAve
$775 plus 10% buyers premium.? We’ll see if it was a good deal once I see the motor run
?
?
Joe ask the rigger his cost.
I always like to block the base on the deck , you Weill need some donage 2x4 4x4 1 by?
Like Dave said block the table the trunnion is the week point.?
Important make sure ?all levers are clamped.
Personally I like the drop bed.?
And there are those among us that have one in there warehouse,,, Dave!!
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years
?More data.? The warehouse where it is located has forklifts and they will lift onto a trailer. I have a friend who can help me load there and by chance he is driving from LA to Phoenix that day.? I have two options.
1) I rent a drop deck trailer and drive from Phoenix to LA, spend the night, and on the next day the seller forklifts on the trailer.? When I get home unload with pallet jack.
2) Friend has access to a car trailer.? I fly out and we have the seller forklift onto the car trailer.? We would then drive it back with his Ford Expedition and then rent a forklift in Phoenix to unload.? I've never driven a forklift so there is that.
I know the rental drop deck trailer would have great tires etc.? Any idea on what a rigger would charge to unload?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Kumm
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Won the bandsaw !
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Correct Marlowe.? Downside is they are very expensive to repair if a problem.? Wheel condition is actually more important than motor.? I don't have a saw with Carter wheels but have heard stories
of problems.? When good, they are the pick of the litter though.? Dave
I suspect that one reason they can run at very high speeds is the Carter fabricated wheels.? ?Balance on those must be close to perfect as opposed to big cast iron?wheels.? They would also be much easier to brake with the lower inertia.?
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 11:13 AM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
Well done.? I would not expect the motor to be an issue, even if you need to rewind.? It isn't like the pancake design of the Oliver.? Just a large frame motor.? Many Tanny came with 1200 rpm motors
and ran at 11000 fpm so hopefully this one will be slower.? Those saws were balanced so well they could run at very high speeds if you can keep up with the feed rate.? DAve
$775 plus 10% buyers premium.? We’ll see if it was a good deal once I see the motor run
?
?
Joe ask the rigger his cost.
I always like to block the base on the deck , you Weill need some donage 2x4 4x4 1 by?
Like Dave said block the table the trunnion is the week point.?
Important make sure ?all levers are clamped.
Personally I like the drop bed.?
And there are those among us that have one in there warehouse,,, Dave!!
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years
?More data.? The warehouse where it is located has forklifts and they will lift onto a trailer. I have a friend who can help me load there and by chance he is driving from LA to Phoenix that day.? I have two options.
1) I rent a drop deck trailer and drive from Phoenix to LA, spend the night, and on the next day the seller forklifts on the trailer.? When I get home unload with pallet jack.
2) Friend has access to a car trailer.? I fly out and we have the seller forklift onto the car trailer.? We would then drive it back with his Ford Expedition and then rent a forklift in Phoenix to unload.? I've never driven a forklift so there is that.
I know the rental drop deck trailer would have great tires etc.? Any idea on what a rigger would charge to unload?
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Correct Marlowe.? Downside is they are very expensive to repair if a problem.? Wheel condition is actually more important than motor.? I don't have a saw with Carter wheels but have heard stories of problems.? When good, they are the pick of the litter though.?
Dave
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I suspect that one reason they can run at very high speeds is the Carter fabricated wheels.? ?Balance on those must be close to perfect as opposed to big cast iron?wheels.? They would also be much easier to brake with the lower inertia.?
Marlowe?
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 11:13 AM David Kumm < davekumm@...> wrote:
Well done.? I would not expect the motor to be an issue, even if you need to rewind.? It isn't like the pancake design of the Oliver.? Just a large frame motor.? Many Tanny came with 1200 rpm motors and ran at 11000 fpm so hopefully this one will be slower.?
Those saws were balanced so well they could run at very high speeds if you can keep up with the feed rate.? DAve
$775 plus 10% buyers premium.? We’ll see if it was a good deal once I see the motor run
?
?
Joe ask the rigger his cost.
I always like to block the base on the deck , you Weill need some donage 2x4 4x4 1 by?
Like Dave said block the table the trunnion is the week point.?
Important make sure ?all levers are clamped.
Personally I like the drop bed.?
And there are those among us that have one in there warehouse,,, Dave!!
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years
?More data.? The warehouse where it is located has forklifts and they will lift onto a trailer. I have a friend who can help me load there and by chance he is driving from LA to Phoenix that day.? I have two options.
1) I rent a drop deck trailer and drive from Phoenix to LA, spend the night, and on the next day the seller forklifts on the trailer.? When I get home unload with pallet jack.
2) Friend has access to a car trailer.? I fly out and we have the seller forklift onto the car trailer.? We would then drive it back with his Ford Expedition and then rent a forklift in Phoenix to unload.? I've never driven a forklift so there is that.
I know the rental drop deck trailer would have great tires etc.? Any idea on what a rigger would charge to unload?
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Re: Cutting mitered bridal joint
JMK were you talking to me?
Bill Belanger?
Take the friggin info you were given and say thank you, it may save you grief one day and quit with the stupid smart ass remarks. They stop members from offering any help.?
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-10-07 1:27 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Cutting mitered bridal joint
What? No chisel? :) Bill Belanger?   This went well over my expectations. I’m amazed by the clean cut.?
This is my very first cut. Board clamped to a backer board on the cross cut fence.?
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I suspect that one reason they can run at very high speeds is the Carter fabricated wheels.? ?Balance on those must be close to perfect as opposed to big cast iron?wheels.? They would also be much easier to brake with the lower inertia.?
Marlowe?
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 11:13 AM David Kumm < davekumm@...> wrote:
Well done.? I would not expect the motor to be an issue, even if you need to rewind.? It isn't like the pancake design of the Oliver.? Just a large frame motor.? Many Tanny came with 1200 rpm motors and ran at 11000 fpm so hopefully this one will be slower.?
Those saws were balanced so well they could run at very high speeds if you can keep up with the feed rate.? DAve
$775 plus 10% buyers premium.? We’ll see if it was a good deal once I see the motor run
?
?
Joe ask the rigger his cost.
I always like to block the base on the deck , you Weill need some donage 2x4 4x4 1 by?
Like Dave said block the table the trunnion is the week point.?
Important make sure ?all levers are clamped.
Personally I like the drop bed.?
And there are those among us that have one in there warehouse,,, Dave!!
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years
?More data.? The warehouse where it is located has forklifts and they will lift onto a trailer. I have a friend who can help me load there and by chance he is driving from LA to Phoenix that day.? I have two options.
1) I rent a drop deck trailer and drive from Phoenix to LA, spend the night, and on the next day the seller forklifts on the trailer.? When I get home unload with pallet jack.
2) Friend has access to a car trailer.? I fly out and we have the seller forklift onto the car trailer.? We would then drive it back with his Ford Expedition and then rent a forklift in Phoenix to unload.? I've never driven a forklift so there is that.
I know the rental drop deck trailer would have great tires etc.? Any idea on what a rigger would charge to unload?
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Re: Cutting mitered bridal joint
Take the friggin info you were given and say thank you, it may save you grief one day and quit with the stupid smart ass remarks. They stop members from offering any help.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> Date: 2020-10-07 1:27 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Cutting mitered bridal joint
What? No chisel? :) Bill Belanger?   This went well over my expectations. I’m amazed by the clean cut.?
This is my very first cut. Board clamped to a backer board on the cross cut fence.?
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Re: Cutting mitered bridal joint
What? No chisel? :) Bill Belanger?
  This went well over my expectations. I’m amazed by the clean cut.?
This is my very first cut. Board clamped to a backer board on the cross cut fence.?
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Depends on the tooling, and if it’s useful to you (or if you can sell it if it isn’t). Does sound high, but tooling can add up very quickly. My F900 is a 2008, 10hp with digi drive, came with?crappy feeder (since replaced)?and no useable tooling. It was up for $8,500 for a very long time, and I gave him?$7,000. It has made me much more money than that by now, so if it’ll be a production machine for you, that’s what matters.? -Shawn
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020, 9:20 AM, G Fuqua <gilfuqua@...> wrote: ? I’m looking at a Felder F700 this weekend.? It is a 2007 model, 7.5 hp 3 phase, x-roll table, electronic lift and readout.? It comes with 2 extra 1.25” spindles, various tooling (door and cabinet) and has a Felder Vario 4 feeder.? He is asking $8,500 for the outfit.?
Can anyone advise on the price and what to look out for on a used F700?
Thanks ? Gil Fuqua Nashville
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Re: Cutting mitered bridal joint
awesome. it looks like your drawing, always a good sign ?
imran?
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On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:26 PM, michael@... wrote: ? <25678C26-0672-42C3-8453-DDE18F2A5078.jpeg> <44AE1350-3377-4BAE-9815-753422F831D4.jpeg> This went well over my expectations. I’m amazed by the clean cut.?
This is my very first cut. Board clamped to a backer board on the cross cut fence.?
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This machine is 7.5HP three phase with electronic lift.? Can with 30mm and router spindle.? 3 phase might have driven the price down some
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Joe Jensen
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] F700 prices
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I got what I think was a great deal on a 2017 F700Z (tilting) with Felder F48 feeder.? Machine was basically unused.? I paid right around $7000 plus
auction buyer premium of 15%.? That sounds high
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I’m looking at a Felder F700 this weekend.? It is a 2007 model, 7.5 hp 3 phase, x-roll table, electronic lift and readout.? It comes with 2 extra 1.25” spindles, various tooling (door and cabinet) and has a Felder Vario 4 feeder.? He
is asking $8,500 for the outfit.?
Can anyone advise on the price and what to look out for on a used F700?
Thanks
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Gil Fuqua
Nashville
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I got what I think was a great deal on a 2017 F700Z (tilting) with Felder F48 feeder.? Machine was basically unused.? I paid right around $7000 plus
auction buyer premium of 15%.? That sounds high
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of G Fuqua
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] F700 prices
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I’m looking at a Felder F700 this weekend.? It is a 2007 model, 7.5 hp 3 phase, x-roll table, electronic lift and readout.? It comes with 2 extra 1.25” spindles, various tooling (door and cabinet) and has a Felder Vario 4 feeder.? He
is asking $8,500 for the outfit.?
Can anyone advise on the price and what to look out for on a used F700?
Thanks
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Gil Fuqua
Nashville
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Re: Cutting mitered bridal joint
  This went well over my expectations. I’m amazed by the clean cut.?
This is my very first cut. Board clamped to a backer board on the cross cut fence.?
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? I’m looking at a Felder F700 this weekend.? It is a 2007 model, 7.5 hp 3 phase, x-roll table, electronic lift and readout.? It comes with 2 extra 1.25” spindles, various tooling (door and cabinet) and has a Felder Vario 4 feeder.? He is asking $8,500 for the outfit.?
Can anyone advise on the price and what to look out for on a used F700?
Thanks ? Gil Fuqua Nashville
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Well done.? I would not expect the motor to be an issue, even if you need to rewind.? It isn't like the pancake design of the Oliver.? Just a large frame motor.? Many Tanny came with 1200 rpm motors and ran at 11000 fpm so hopefully this one will be slower.?
Those saws were balanced so well they could run at very high speeds if you can keep up with the feed rate.? DAve
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$775 plus 10% buyers premium.? We’ll see if it was a good deal once I see the motor run
?
?
Joe ask the rigger his cost.
I always like to block the base on the deck , you Weill need some donage 2x4 4x4 1 by?
Like Dave said block the table the trunnion is the week point.?
Important make sure ?all levers are clamped.
Personally I like the drop bed.?
And there are those among us that have one in there warehouse,,, Dave!!
Designing and building for 50 years
?More data.? The warehouse where it is located has forklifts and they will lift onto a trailer. I have a friend who can help me load there and by chance he is driving from LA to Phoenix that day.? I have two options.
1) I rent a drop deck trailer and drive from Phoenix to LA, spend the night, and on the next day the seller forklifts on the trailer.? When I get home unload with pallet jack.
2) Friend has access to a car trailer.? I fly out and we have the seller forklift onto the car trailer.? We would then drive it back with his Ford Expedition and then rent a forklift in Phoenix to unload.? I've never driven a forklift so there is that.
I know the rental drop deck trailer would have great tires etc.? Any idea on what a rigger would charge to unload?
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Re: NEW Parallel Fences from Lamb Tool Works!
Contact me direct and maybe we can figure something out. What machine is it? Looks similar to the Minimax/SCMI units we make, or even the Hammer, although they are smaller
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On Oct 7, 2020, at 6:49 AM, Larry < larry@...> wrote:
I wish I could figure out a way to adapt the parallel fence to my set-up!
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David Luckensmeyer
Joe Jensen
Bill Belanger
imran