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Re: The Annex workshop addition
Really? as in quitting woodworking? Beautiful shop and living quarters.
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On Jul 17, 2020, at 3:06 PM, bacchus6015 via < joeinno@...> wrote:
As some of you know I am selling everything in my shop and the building that the shop is in.
As part of the sales effort the RE agent made a 3D scan of the interior of the building. ?
My shop is set up so everything has 10¡¯ through put.
Maybe the 3D tour will be useful for someone setting up a shop?
Joe in New Orleans
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My next door neighbor is a compressor tech. He services Kaiser, Quincy, IR etc. He would tell you the same thing. You'll kill a very expensive screw in a year or two. I worked in a shop with a 10 HP Kaiser, but we had 3 people in the finishing department, and potentially several other DA sanders running. That was borderline enough use for it.
Get a 60-80 gallon upright Quincy. They're pretty quiet, and you'll be happy. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: cf731s planer feed rollers
allen
thanks for the exploded parts diagram.? i would not be surprised if my machine is like that.? in talking with ron he only mentioned the one urethane coated rubber friction wheel so he seems to believe that is the way it was built.
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
As some of you know I am selling everything in my shop and the building that the shop is in.
As part of the sales effort the RE agent made a 3D scan of the interior of the building. ?
My shop is set up so everything has 10¡¯ through put.
Maybe the 3D tour will be useful for someone setting up a shop?
Joe in New Orleans
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
I just used graph paper and little scaled cut outs of eat tool¡¯s footprint and ¡°board run¡± to lay out my recent build.
Can¡¯t stress enough the consideration of material flow. ?Raw material comes in, gets stored, goes through steps to make it smaller, gets finished, and then leaves.
Consider the ¡°flow¡± of large boards and sheets as well as finished pieces.
My shop is a rectangle, but it¡¯s a ¡°u¡± shape in that materials come in the bottom left, go through breakdown and primary shaping (or to the CNC), then ¡°right¡± across tk assembly, then back towards the door for finishing. ?Spray booth is the last piece I¡¯m adding.
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On Jul 17, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?Is there stock/material storage somewhere in the layout? If you process large panels / sheet goods that would need ample space around for maneuvering onto the sliding TS. Related to this would be the flow of lumber from point A to B, as well as from the entry point of your shop, I've often overlooked the fact that raw material is large and I've taken out my track saw more than once to be able to bring into the shop and process (by myself).?
How high are your ceilings? Having them taller provides obvious advantages but some downsides too -- cost of cooling/heating is one -- but it does open things up visually / mentally in terms of feeling of spaciousness. I went from 8' to 14' ceilings in my workshop remodel and love them!
The 3d printouts are a nice way to visualize!?
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Extend your short beam that¡¯s closest to the blade guard and add two sets of the linear bearings spaced 12¡± to 16¡± apart and it will be worlds more stable. The plastic UHMW bearinsg they use with 8020 are a bit sloppy. If you really want nice movement, purchase some linear rails and trucks off ebay and integrate those.
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On Jul 17, 2020, at 2:02 PM, Sang Luu < sangluu@...> wrote:
Reworked the design a bit with an updated sliding mechanism -- I'll have to hope it doesn't introduce a ton of play/slop in the arm.
Anyone with experience with 80/20 linear bearings for this application??
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no experience but do max overlap possible in the sliding mechanism.
imran?
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On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote: ?Reworked the design a bit with an updated sliding mechanism -- I'll have to hope it doesn't introduce a ton of play/slop in the arm. Anyone with experience with 80/20 linear bearings for this application?? <DustGuardAssembly.jpg>
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Sang, ? Do you keep all of these 80/20 bits just sitting in a box somewhere?? The stuff isn't cheap. Dave
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 4:02 PM Sang Luu < sangluu@...> wrote: Reworked the design a bit with an updated sliding mechanism -- I'll have to hope it doesn't introduce a ton of play/slop in the arm.
Anyone with experience with 80/20 linear bearings for this application??
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Reworked the design a bit with an updated sliding mechanism -- I'll have to hope it doesn't introduce a ton of play/slop in the arm. Anyone with experience with 80/20 linear bearings for this application?? 
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
Is there stock/material storage somewhere in the layout? If you process large panels / sheet goods that would need ample space around for maneuvering onto the sliding TS. Related to this would be the flow of lumber from point A to B, as well as from the entry point of your shop, I've often overlooked the fact that raw material is large and I've taken out my track saw more than once to be able to bring into the shop and process (by myself).?
How high are your ceilings? Having them taller provides obvious advantages but some downsides too -- cost of cooling/heating is one -- but it does open things up visually / mentally in terms of feeling of spaciousness. I went from 8' to 14' ceilings in my workshop remodel and love them!
The 3d printouts are a nice way to visualize!?
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
i do not know how the wall will look with gloss paint but sure would be easy to clean. i think i have satin. white for ceiling and a light color for walls but dust does adhere to the wall.
imran?
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On Jul 17, 2020, at 3:28 PM, trgoodman47 <thomasrgoodman@...> wrote: ? Hi Tony, When I built my shop (30 x 40) I placed all dust collection, air, PEX heat and electrical in the floor. I do have electrical & air drop over work bench and along a wall bench that is 12 feet. ?Also used Paragon lighting system (four foot two bulb system) with high reflective shades. ?Ten foot ceiling painted with gloss white for better light distribution. Also the dust collector located as separate enclosure.? I did this in 2004 and I¡¯m sure there have been improvements in lighting and other items.?
Tom
Happy Friday everyone,? ?
I'm designing a new home workshop addition and would love help from anyone willing to offer it.? I don¡¯t want to bore or overload with details, so I will try to provide the minimum to allow for some helpful guidance. ? ?
As we all know, my layout will change a thousand more times now and after I move in, so my goal is to try and design as compact a space as possible while still allowing for flexibility.? This will not be a production shop so maximum efficiency isn¡¯t critical, but I would like to minimize pulling out the pallet jack every time I want to use a different tool. ? ?
I think like many here, I am obsessed with cool and well built tools.? As a result, all my home shops have been machine heavy, meaning I had minimal space to actually build things because the small spaces were packed with tools.? I am hoping to change that this time.? I would also like to be able to move materials from one operation to another on a rolling cart (3ft clearance between tools minimum). ? ?
?In the attached photos, the machine area (Top of the T) is roughly 38¡¯x29¡¯ (some flexibility in these dimensions) while the lower portion of the T where the assembly and work bench area is located will be 25¡¯*20¡¯ (not particularly flexible due to existing conditions)
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CELL: 715-441-6526
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
Hi Tom,?
I am certainly playing with putting the dust collector in a basement below and then popping up once and having overhead runs everywhere to allow for changes. ?
Your system sounds really dialed and clean. ?I really like the idea of a very bright space that the white ceiling would provide!?
Thanks so much,?
Anthony?
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In Wichita I would be, but you can always find a dryer. Good industrial ones can be had used, or dare I say it, Harbor Freight sells one and I know quite a few folks that have used them and they seem to work well. Again, CFM capacity will make the difference on what unit you go looking for.
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On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Tom Morris < morrist@...> wrote:
The reason I was looking at the Kaeser is the air dryer that is part of the system. Should I not be concerned about that?
Tom
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
Bill,?
Thank you for this! ?It is always so helpful to have visuals of plans that have worked for others. ?This seems like a really nice workflow and well thought out.?
Thanks again
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so...put-put-put is better than nag-nag-nag??? Dave
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 2:42 PM David Kumm < davekumm@...> wrote:
Quincy makes about three levels of compressors.? The QT is the cheap pump, the QR is still the expensive but pressure lubed best pump.? Used QR can be found and are pretty easy to rebuild.? I've done a couple and not a long term project.? Quincy sells rebuild
kits with new gaskets and rings.? The valve clean up with Evaporust and sand paper on a flat surface.? The key to dealing with the sound is a slow running pump.? The put put put is actually kind of soothing compared to everything else- including my wife.?
Dave
There are piston versions with dryer.? And it¡¯s easy to add a dryer.? Rick who replied should add a dryer as he lives on the ocean
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If buying new I would be a Quincy or Ingersol Rand with a dryer from the same maker.? I have an old Quincy with a oil pump like a car or truck for pressure driven lube.?
When researching I found an article on compressor robustness written by a compressor dealer.? For every compressor they carry they require the manufacturer to supply one test unit and the test is to open the valve and turn it on, let it run all weekend.? They
said very few splash lube compressors can run 48 hrs without seizing.? No Chinese pumps could handle the test.? This was maybe 10 years ago.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Tom Morris
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Kaeser Airtower
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The reason I was looking at the Kaeser is the air dryer that is part of the system. Should I not be concerned about that?
Tom
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Quincy makes about three levels of compressors.? The QT is the cheap pump, the QR is still the expensive but pressure lubed best pump.? Used QR can be found and are pretty easy to rebuild.? I've done a couple and not a long term project.? Quincy sells rebuild
kits with new gaskets and rings.? The valve clean up with Evaporust and sand paper on a flat surface.? The key to dealing with the sound is a slow running pump.? The put put put is actually kind of soothing compared to everything else- including my wife.?
Dave
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There are piston versions with dryer.? And it¡¯s easy to add a dryer.? Rick who replied should add a dryer as he lives on the ocean
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If buying new I would be a Quincy or Ingersol Rand with a dryer from the same maker.? I have an old Quincy with a oil pump like a car or truck for pressure driven lube.?
When researching I found an article on compressor robustness written by a compressor dealer.? For every compressor they carry they require the manufacturer to supply one test unit and the test is to open the valve and turn it on, let it run all weekend.? They
said very few splash lube compressors can run 48 hrs without seizing.? No Chinese pumps could handle the test.? This was maybe 10 years ago.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Tom Morris
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Kaeser Airtower
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The reason I was looking at the Kaeser is the air dryer that is part of the system. Should I not be concerned about that?
Tom
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
Hi Tony, When I built my shop (30 x 40) I placed all dust collection, air, PEX heat and electrical in the floor. I do have electrical & air drop over work bench and along a wall bench that is 12 feet. ?Also used Paragon lighting system (four foot two bulb system) with high reflective shades. ?Ten foot ceiling painted with gloss white for better light distribution. Also the dust collector located as separate enclosure.? I did this in 2004 and I¡¯m sure there have been improvements in lighting and other items.?
Tom
Happy Friday everyone,? ?
I'm designing a new home workshop addition and would love help from anyone willing to offer it.? I don¡¯t want to bore or overload with details, so I will try to provide the minimum to allow for some helpful guidance. ? ?
As we all know, my layout will change a thousand more times now and after I move in, so my goal is to try and design as compact a space as possible while still allowing for flexibility.? This will not be a production shop so maximum efficiency isn¡¯t critical, but I would like to minimize pulling out the pallet jack every time I want to use a different tool. ? ?
I think like many here, I am obsessed with cool and well built tools.? As a result, all my home shops have been machine heavy, meaning I had minimal space to actually build things because the small spaces were packed with tools.? I am hoping to change that this time.? I would also like to be able to move materials from one operation to another on a rolling cart (3ft clearance between tools minimum). ? ?
?In the attached photos, the machine area (Top of the T) is roughly 38¡¯x29¡¯ (some flexibility in these dimensions) while the lower portion of the T where the assembly and work bench area is located will be 25¡¯*20¡¯ (not particularly flexible due to existing conditions)
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Select Rentals LLC c/o Tom Goodman 1018 River Dr. River Falls, WI 54022-0544
CELL: 715-441-6526
This electronic transmission and any?attached documents or other writings are intended only for the person?or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is?privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you?have received this communication in error, please immediately notify?sender by return e-mail and destroy the communication. Any disclosure,?copying, distribution or the taking of any action concerning the contents?of this communication or any attachments by anyone other than the?named recipient is strictly prohibited.
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
Anthony, This was my layout for a 30x38 shop. Worked well for me. Bill B¨¦langer
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:20 PM Michael Garrison Stuber < mtgstuber@...> wrote:
You're welcome.? Those are coming through great!
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On 7/17/2020 12:13 PM, Anthony Quesada
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Wow thanks Michael,?
That was super easy!
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imran
Sang Luu
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