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Re: cf731s planer feed rollers

 

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Yes find a handy 4 year old my grandson could do it no problem?

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Jul 16, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?It¡¯s the friction wheels that drive the feed rollers. There are two, a large one and a small one. Best to replace both at the same time, the urethane tends to get old and brittle. Also, always leave the feed mechanism in the center where it¡¯s disengaged when not actually running ?boards through the machine. The indentation on the urethane from the pressure against the drive wheel ruins the friction wheels.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jul 16, 2020, at 3:00 PM, charlie9g@... wrote:

not a feed roller sorry it's a tensioner.

Re: cf731s planer feed rollers

 

Just replaced mine a few weeks ago. The most annoying part of the job is separating the machines. Replacing the urethane-covered drive wheel is straightforward.

Brian mentioned two wheels, but on my CF731SP I remember only one of the two (the large one) being urethane-covered. Maybe I missed something.

Allen
Re: cf731s planer feed rollers

 

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It¡¯s the friction wheels that drive the feed rollers. There are two, a large one and a small one. Best to replace both at the same time, the urethane tends to get old and brittle. Also, always leave the feed mechanism in the center where it¡¯s disengaged when not actually running ?boards through the machine. The indentation on the urethane from the pressure against the drive wheel ruins the friction wheels.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jul 16, 2020, at 3:00 PM, charlie9g@... wrote:

not a feed roller sorry it's a tensioner.

Re: cf731s planer feed rollers

 

not a feed roller sorry it's a tensioner.
cf731s planer feed rollers

 

well.? i thought the feed rollers needed adjustment.? while doing this it became apparent both rollers were not turning.? ron siebach at felder says it's a urethane covered feed roller.? it is accessed through an access panel behind the shaper.
what can i say.? fun.
Re: #diy #dustguard K700s Dust Guard #diy #dustguard

 

David B - Very illustrative, thanks for sharing the shots of the setups and the telescopic arm. I think I'll noodle on this a bit and hopefully come up with something workable before I have that first need to remove the guard.

Luckily, the pneumatic clamps that I DIY'd?are actually quite low profile so clearance should not be a problem. The planned upward travel of the guard is about 6" so there's enough there to clear my clamps. I haven't needed to cut large workpieces pieces or tenons longitudinally, yet!?
Re: Paddle Switch for felder toolset

 

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Panhans sold all kinds of accessories, ?for many years and used to sHow up on Felder machines in the old days.
Saw guards and overheads being one of them

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106?one of?
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression via groups.io <airtightclamps@...> wrote:

?All My mushroom switch Turn my slider off with a knee bump, my pants rubbing against or what ever sometimes Annoying.
Mac,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Jul 16, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

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We have a similar, although not quite as elegant diy paddle on our Felders. Our Sawstop also has a paddle type switch. I'm a big fan. Not just for the rare pucker induced situations. Often two hands are required, how do you stop the machine? With your knee of course. It becomes so intuitive and easy. I don't have remote switches on the slider, but I think this is possibly more useful. You never have to fumble around feeling for the switch underneath the slider.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

Re: #diy #dustguard K700s Dust Guard #diy #dustguard

 

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With my clamps the controls adjustments ?Are independent Of the position of the angle of the clamp pad and can be positioned for operator ergonomics.
Also the lead edge clamp is sent out so the valve ball is parallel to the slider so the clamp can pass right next to the guard.
When the pad retracts there is more than an inch of clearance in the pinch zone .
The angle of the pad is adjustable 360 at 8 degrees.
Mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Jul 16, 2020, at 4:10 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

?My K975 had a telescoping overhead guard that was quite functional in getting the guard the hell out of the way when needing to use clamps close to the blade or a various jigs. ? This might be easier to employ with your design than a pivot-away system:

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Examples of situations where getting the guard out of the way becomes important.

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David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/


On Jul 15, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

Imran - I like the sliding idea a lot - it's simpler in my mind and would probably result in very little loss in rigidity. All the other designs pivot in the center and I bet it's the main reason for the slop. And yes, the lower part of the guard is easily removed and would make implementing the sliding idea that much easier.?

Re: Paddle Switch for felder tools #diy

 

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All My mushroom switch Turn my slider off with a knee bump, my pants rubbing against or what ever sometimes Annoying.
Mac,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Jul 16, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:

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We have a similar, although not quite as elegant diy paddle on our Felders. Our Sawstop also has a paddle type switch. I'm a big fan. Not just for the rare pucker induced situations. Often two hands are required, how do you stop the machine? With your knee of course. It becomes so intuitive and easy. I don't have remote switches on the slider, but I think this is possibly more useful. You never have to fumble around feeling for the switch underneath the slider.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

Re: Paddle Switch for felder tools #diy

 

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Hi Anthony,

i am just starting to use K975 with switch orientation like your saw. i did get used to KF700 saw switch placement but it was more like feeling/searching for it like a blind man with my hand - poor switch placement. it took me nearly 20 yrs to accidentally learn that i could have been turning the saw off with the shaper red button LOL - much convenient.

for some reason i was thinking of safety but you are correct on convenience.

imran


On Jul 16, 2020, at 6:04 AM, tonymiga2@... wrote:

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Hi Imran,?

very good point indeed, I agree that with the proper techniques the slider feels very safe. ?When I first designed this I was new to sliding table saws so I was a bit more uncomfortable with technique and didn¡¯t have macs clamps or a F&F jig. ?


So while it¡¯s intended use has changed, I have grown to really appreciate the small convenience it offers...particularly being able to turn on the saw without looking down (Or when a plywood sheet blocks your view) and being able to turn off the saw when you are out of arms reach of the red button with a simple foot touch. ?


When I was working at the production shop with an?altendorf (Older model with similar button location) I realized how much I missed they silly little device.?


I¡¯m sure most here have learned the feel of the start button location without having to look down, but for whatever reason, I never did. ?


best,
Anthony?
Re: #diy #dustguard K700s Dust Guard #diy #dustguard

 

That telescopic support on the K975 is so identical to the one on my Panhans I'd think they were made in the same place.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
Re: Paddle Switch for felder tools #diy

 

We have a similar, although not quite as elegant diy paddle on our Felders. Our Sawstop also has a paddle type switch. I'm a big fan. Not just for the rare pucker induced situations. Often two hands are required, how do you stop the machine? With your knee of course. It becomes so intuitive and easy. I don't have remote switches on the slider, but I think this is possibly more useful. You never have to fumble around feeling for the switch underneath the slider.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
Re: Paddle Switch for felder tools #diy

 

Hi Imran,?

very good point indeed, I agree that with the proper techniques the slider feels very safe. ?When I first designed this I was new to sliding table saws so I was a bit more uncomfortable with technique and didn¡¯t have macs clamps or a F&F jig. ?


So while it¡¯s intended use has changed, I have grown to really appreciate the small convenience it offers...particularly being able to turn on the saw without looking down (Or when a plywood sheet blocks your view) and being able to turn off the saw when you are out of arms reach of the red button with a simple foot touch. ?


When I was working at the production shop with an?altendorf (Older model with similar button location) I realized how much I missed they silly little device.?


I¡¯m sure most here have learned the feel of the start button location without having to look down, but for whatever reason, I never did. ?


best,
Anthony?
Re: #diy #dustguard K700s Dust Guard #diy #dustguard

 

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My K975 had a telescoping overhead guard that was quite functional in getting the guard the hell out of the way when needing to use clamps close to the blade or a various jigs. ? This might be easier to employ with your design than a pivot-away system:



Examples of situations where getting the guard out of the way becomes important.






David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/


On Jul 15, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

Imran - I like the sliding idea a lot - it's simpler in my mind and would probably result in very little loss in rigidity. All the other designs pivot in the center and I bet it's the main reason for the slop. And yes, the lower part of the guard is easily removed and would make implementing the sliding idea that much easier.?

Re: #diy #dustguard K700s Dust Guard #diy #dustguard

 

I see it now.
Re: Paddle Switch for felder tools #diy

 

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i am not an expert of anything but am wondering that once clamps are added for large workpieces, F&F for small pieces and incorporate safe practices in general then is this type of turn off useful/necessary?

this is not a critique but i would like to know under what condition i would benefit from this? the few high pucker factor instances that i have had on the saw were over before i could react.

i can see the benefit on shaper. i have not experienced it but if work gets pulled into the cutter while end profiling a quick turnoff will be handy.

curious imran

On Jul 15, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?Low tech but effective! I do think the paddle switch from my Grizzly saw was easier to use, so maybe someone at Felder has thought about this and decided against it for whatever reason.?

Re: #diy #dustguard K700s Dust Guard #diy #dustguard

 

Sang,

No, that is a?round?head square neck carriage bolt supporting the heavy steel tube, very minimal sagging with this supporting bolt.??

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James

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:33 PM Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
James - I also noticed two washer stacks - was there some major sagging??

Re: #diy #dustguard K700s Dust Guard #diy #dustguard

 

James - I also noticed two washer stacks - was there some major sagging??
Re: Paddle Switch for felder tools #diy

 

Low tech but effective! I do think the paddle switch from my Grizzly saw was easier to use, so maybe someone at Felder has thought about this and decided against it for whatever reason.?
Paddle Switch for felder tools #diy

 

I created this DIY paddle switch for the table saw several years ago and have found it very helpful. ?If this hasn't already been suggested, (couldn't find anything in the search) thought it might help others that also have the start/stop on the machine base.

  • I use this to turn off the saw with my foot/knee/palm without having to look down, and equally important, gives me a kind of brail to find the start button quickly when view of the buttons are blocked?
    • Quite helpful when I have a medium sized sheet or parts on the slider. ?(I do still use the rear mounted start button when I have fully retracted the slider for a long rip cut)
    • It has such a big surface area that I have found I will often do a kind of gentle karate kick after pushing through the cut rather than walking back to the button to turn it off?
    • I think I have accidentally turned off the saw with my knee one or two times since I put this into use. ?

best,?

Anthony?
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