Re: KF 500 zero clearance saw insert
Hi James here is what I did for a k700 for a visual showing what John was describing ... You would have to remove it for an angle cut, I haven¡¯t made one for the angle I just use the stock insert for now
 Regards, Mark
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On Feb 24, 2020, at 8:06 PM, James Seifert <jseifert@...> wrote:
?I am looking for a zero clearance saw insert fro mu KF 500. ?I can't seem too find anyone who sells these. ?Does anyone know of a source for?
these? ?Thanks , ?Jim Seifert
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Re: KF 500 zero clearance saw insert
Hi Jim. I made a few at one time for the Hammer and 500 Series. But there wasn't that much demand at the time to make it worthwhile.? I'm just making them for the 700 series.? But with an investment in your time you can make your own. The key is to leave enough material on the slider side to prevent that thinner side from breaking.? Take care John.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: James Seifert <jseifert@...> Date: 2/24/20 5:08 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: [FOG] KF 500 zero clearance saw insert
I am looking for a zero clearance saw insert fro mu KF 500. ?I can't seem too find anyone who sells these. ?Does anyone know of a source for? these? ?Thanks , ?Jim Seifert
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
So Felder did tell me that guard ?could be positioned for either without modification however I just checked and it would need to be cut down a little and a hole or two drilled then it could be used for either the 31 or 49? Regards, Mark
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On Feb 24, 2020, at 7:48 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Mark,
Looking at the K740 overhead dust collection on Felder USA website, I doubt the rip capacity is adjustable between?31 and 49.
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James I haven¡¯t checked but I asked if I ordered the 49¡± and found that I didn¡¯t have enough space and wanted to change to the 31¡± i was told that the guard fits either
Regards, Mark
> On Feb 24, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
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KF 500 zero clearance saw insert
I am looking for a zero clearance saw insert fro mu KF 500. ?I can't seem too find anyone who sells these. ?Does anyone know of a source for?
these? ?Thanks , ?Jim Seifert
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
Mark,
Looking at the K740 overhead dust collection on Felder USA website, I doubt the rip capacity is adjustable between?31 and 49.
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James
I haven¡¯t checked but I asked if I ordered the 49¡± and found that I didn¡¯t have enough space and wanted to change to the 31¡± i was told that the guard fits either
Regards, Mark
> On Feb 24, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
Looking in the k700 manual shows the the KF mounts different than the k700
Regards, Mark
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On Feb 24, 2020, at 7:20 PM, Mark Kessler via Groups.Io <mkessler10@...> wrote:
?I haven¡¯t checked but I asked if I ordered the 49¡± and found that I didn¡¯t have enough space and wanted to change to the 31¡± i was told that the guard fits either
Regards, Mark
On Feb 24, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
I haven¡¯t checked but I asked if I ordered the 49¡± and found that I didn¡¯t have enough space and wanted to change to the 31¡± i was told that the guard fits either
Regards, Mark
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
Our two KF700's are both the 31" rip versions, neither with an overarm guard. With the riving knife mounted guard, nothing prevents you from cross cutting a sheet in half other than ours being short sliders with the fence usually on the operator end of the slider.
I don't know what the Felder overarm guard mount looks like. However, the overarm on my Panhans saw has a horizontal tube mounted to the back of the saw chassis. The arm is movable or removable with just one kip lever on that horizontal tube. It has 49" rip capacity, but the guard is movable far enough to probably accommodate 60" if you needed it. It's a super simple clever design. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
Mark,
My KF700 is a 2017 model. I ordered the 31" rip capacity model, cause the 49 would take too much space in the double car garage, I do not think the rip capacity is adjustable?on the 2017 model. Also,?
James
I don¡¯t know what year your saw is or if the overhead guard setup is the same as mine which is a 2019 k700s but mine can be installed in the 49 or the 31 position, so if yours is the same and you had room you could reinstall it in the 49 position, took me and the tech less than an hour to install? Regards, Mark ? I have KF700 with overhead dust collection and 31¡± rip capacity.
No way I would remove the overhead arm dust collection. Felder technician told me it took him and a helper more than 2 hours to install it before delivery.
I would use track saw to cut the plywood in half if ever needed. If you do not have a track saw, this is a reason to have it.
James On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 4:20 PM < kumar@...> wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a way on the KF 700 to cut a piece of plywood in half with a 31 rip capacity unit. I realize the overhead dust collector would be in the way. It looks like that would be cumbersome to remove. But if it were removed, is there anything preventing one from cutting a plywood sheet in half using the crosscut fence on the slider?
If that is the case, it occurs to me that this might be a good argument for the standard dust collection blade guard system, since it would be easier to remove the tubing, or better yet the hose could be suspened above the saw. I know others using this machine with me will want to know if we can handle cutting plywood in half.
I guess the issues are 1) is how hard is it to remove the overarm dust collection? 2) is there anything else preventing having 38" stock to the right of the blade for a crosscut??
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
I should have added that the overhead guard can be ordered to "fit" either rip capacity, but I am not sure if you ordered the 31" version you would be able to expand it to fit the larger rip capacity. I'd check with Felder tech support on that.?
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
I have the 31" rip capacity and yes, the overhead guard would be in the way of you attempting to clear 48" right of blade. That is why I've been looking for a more custom solution w.r.t. the overhead guard, so that I can clear 48", if I need to.
My thought is the Felder overhead guard would limit you with this kind of cut since taking it off is not an every option. I would consider keeping the Euro Guard II setup or. buying a separate, such as the Grizzly, that sits on the floor and not bolted to the saw chassis. This gives you the most flexibility. That or fabricating a custom overhead arm, that clears 48".?
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
I would?add to James's remark my first thought was that a track saw would?seem very cheap compared to modifying the overhead guard again....then I thought, you can probably crosscut until you hit the upright, pull back, flip the plywood, and cut again and get nearly through.
I have KF700 with overhead dust collection and 31¡± rip capacity.
No way I would remove the overhead arm dust collection. Felder technician told me it took him and a helper more than 2 hours to install it before delivery.
I would use track saw to cut the plywood in half if ever needed. If you do not have a track saw, this is a reason to have it.
James On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 4:20 PM < kumar@...> wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a way on the KF 700 to cut a piece of plywood in half with a 31 rip capacity unit. I realize the overhead dust collector would be in the way. It looks like that would be cumbersome to remove. But if it were removed, is there anything preventing one from cutting a plywood sheet in half using the crosscut fence on the slider?
If that is the case, it occurs to me that this might be a good argument for the standard dust collection blade guard system, since it would be easier to remove the tubing, or better yet the hose could be suspened above the saw. I know others using this machine with me will want to know if we can handle cutting plywood in half.
I guess the issues are 1) is how hard is it to remove the overarm dust collection? 2) is there anything else preventing having 38" stock to the right of the blade for a crosscut??
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
I don¡¯t know what year your saw is or if the overhead guard setup is the same as mine which is a 2019 k700s but mine can be installed in the 49 or the 31 position, so if yours is the same and you had room you could reinstall it in the 49 position, took me and the tech less than an hour to install? Regards, Mark
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On Feb 24, 2020, at 5:33 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? I have KF700 with overhead dust collection and 31¡± rip capacity.
No way I would remove the overhead arm dust collection. Felder technician told me it took him and a helper more than 2 hours to install it before delivery.
I would use track saw to cut the plywood in half if ever needed. If you do not have a track saw, this is a reason to have it.
James On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 4:20 PM < kumar@...> wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a way on the KF 700 to cut a piece of plywood in half with a 31 rip capacity unit. I realize the overhead dust collector would be in the way. It looks like that would be cumbersome to remove. But if it were removed, is there anything preventing one from cutting a plywood sheet in half using the crosscut fence on the slider?
If that is the case, it occurs to me that this might be a good argument for the standard dust collection blade guard system, since it would be easier to remove the tubing, or better yet the hose could be suspened above the saw. I know others using this machine with me will want to know if we can handle cutting plywood in half.
I guess the issues are 1) is how hard is it to remove the overarm dust collection? 2) is there anything else preventing having 38" stock to the right of the blade for a crosscut??
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
I have KF700 with overhead dust collection and 31¡± rip capacity.
No way I would remove the overhead arm dust collection. Felder technician told me it took him and a helper more than 2 hours to install it before delivery.
I would use track saw to cut the plywood in half if ever needed. If you do not have a track saw, this is a reason to have it.
James
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 4:20 PM < kumar@...> wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a way on the KF 700 to cut a piece of plywood in half with a 31 rip capacity unit. I realize the overhead dust collector would be in the way. It looks like that would be cumbersome to remove. But if it were removed, is there anything preventing one from cutting a plywood sheet in half using the crosscut fence on the slider?
If that is the case, it occurs to me that this might be a good argument for the standard dust collection blade guard system, since it would be easier to remove the tubing, or better yet the hose could be suspened above the saw. I know others using this machine with me will want to know if we can handle cutting plywood in half.
I guess the issues are 1) is how hard is it to remove the overarm dust collection? 2) is there anything else preventing having 38" stock to the right of the blade for a crosscut??
?
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Re: KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:19 AM, <kumar@...> wrote:
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above, I meant 48" to the right of the blade: 2) is there anything else preventing having 48" stock to the right of the blade for a crosscut??
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KF 700 cutting a sheet of plywood in half
I'm wondering if there is a way on the KF 700 to cut a piece of plywood in half with a 31 rip capacity unit. I realize the overhead dust collector would be in the way. It looks like that would be cumbersome to remove. But if it were removed, is there anything preventing one from cutting a plywood sheet in half using the crosscut fence on the slider?
If that is the case, it occurs to me that this might be a good argument for the standard dust collection blade guard system, since it would be easier to remove the tubing, or better yet the hose could be suspened above the saw. I know others using this machine with me will want to know if we can handle cutting plywood in half.
I guess the issues are 1) is how hard is it to remove the overarm dust collection? 2) is there anything else preventing having 38" stock to the right of the blade for a crosscut??
?
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Re: Felder BF 6 jointer table setup
On the question if one should use thread-lock or anti-seize on the set screws, I am still not sure. Do you find that you have to re-adjust the blades now and then on a machine of this type? The construction appears sturdy, so when it is set it looks like it should stay so, but reality is often surprising.? ? ?
As the blade heights were off up to 0.2 m.m. to one another I don't think there was another reasonable choice than re-adjusting the set screws. The set screws had had some strong thread lock on them, deeming from how tight they sat and residuals on the threads. I had to use heat to get them loose. Then, I saw that most inside threads were jammed above the top of the set screws heads. All set screws had to be loosened by screwing them inwards. Did they jam the threads at Felder, so nobody would tamper with the set screws? Beacuse I find it hard to believe that most threads were damaged this badly by accident. Fortunately it was possible to restore them with a tap and die.??
If we have to redo this process every now and then, thread-lock and oxide building up makes adjustments quiet a pain.?
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