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Re: segmented pressure beam for AD 951?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý?The only similar option I am aware of is what Felder calls ¡°sectional pressure bar¡±, shown below: I thought this is what we are discussing. OP should clarify if he meant something different. Can someone post what the alternative looks like? I assume it is just a chip breaker. Imran On Feb 19, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Mk Vt <mkessler10@...> wrote: ?Imran, yes to the noise but I am also under the impression from Felder that the sheet steel pressure shoe (Felder calls it that) had the wrong bend angle on that part causing the harmonics ( like to say squealing pig noise). Will find out next week with my replacement machine which will be newer build by a year. The noise can be minimized by waxing which I never did and I found another hack which was to put a piece of duct tape on it which helped a lot. I personally would go for the segmented pressure bar and maybe the rubber rollers hear they are great for delicate work there was a recent (maybe 2 months?) about this, Actually edit, not so sure about the advantage of the segmented pressure bar, I keep mixing it up in my head with the segmented infeed roller that my scm had which was great for small diff in size... Regards, Mark On Feb 19, 2020, at 12:25 AM, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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Re: segmented pressure beam for AD 951?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýImran, yes to the noise but I am also under the impression from Felder that the sheet steel pressure shoe (Felder calls it that) had the wrong bend angle on that part causing the harmonics ( like to say squealing pig noise). Will find out next week with my replacement machine which will be newer build by a year. The noise can be minimized by waxing which I never did and I found another hack which was to put a piece of duct tape on it which helped a lot.I personally would go for the segmented pressure bar and maybe the rubber rollers hear they are great for delicate work there was a recent (maybe 2 months?) about this, Actually edit, not so sure about the advantage of the segmented pressure bar, I keep mixing it up in my head with the segmented infeed roller that my scm had which was great for small diff in size... Regards, Mark On Feb 19, 2020, at 12:25 AM, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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Re: Latest in Woodworking
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJonathan, I actually enjoy photography very much. I would enjoy such a book very much. Maybe once my better half retires I could work on that during our travels. Imran On Feb 19, 2020, at 1:08 PM, jontathan samways <jonathansamways@...> wrote: ? Imran Great photo, thanks for sharing!? I would like to see a coffee table book of "woodworking machines from around?the world" now that you are retired it might be a good project?for you ? Jonathan? On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, 06:48 Jonathan Smith, <jonathan.smith@...> wrote: Imran, Where is that picture taken. |
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Imran Great photo, thanks for sharing!? I would like to see a coffee table book of "woodworking machines from around?the world" now that you are retired it might be a good project?for you ? Jonathan? On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, 06:48 Jonathan Smith, <jonathan.smith@...> wrote: Imran, Where is that picture taken. |
Re: Latest in Woodworking
Imran, i could not really tell but l see the jointer bed but is there a saw and what looks like a horizontal mortiser on the end? Glen Big Tree Woodworking P.O. Box 257 Avery Ca 95224 On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:46 PM imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote: No code compliance concerns with wire gauge based upon length ? |
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No code compliance concerns with wire gauge based upon length ?
I see at least two different types of wire and electrical tape everywhere, perhaps to make repairs. Imran On Feb 19, 2020, at 11:15 AM, TMichael WARD via Groups.Io <tmikko@...> wrote:?Nice long power line, so owner can roll to various jobs. Mike Ward |
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?Notice the helmet on handle bar of the motorcycle instead of on the head.
Imran On Feb 19, 2020, at 10:29 AM, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:?I saw this yesterday in local market. They were edging sheets and I could smell it from distance. It was still there this morning so thought I share. Imran <image0.jpeg> <image1.jpeg> |
Re: Latest in Woodworking
In Pakistan. Market by my parents house in the town of Wah Cantt.
Imran On Feb 19, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:?Imran, Where is that picture taken. Jon S -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of imranindiana via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 9:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FOG] Latest in Woodworking I saw this yesterday in local market. They were edging sheets and I could smell it from distance. It was still there this morning so thought I share. Imran -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. |
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Imran, Where is that picture taken.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of imranindiana via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 9:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FOG] Latest in Woodworking I saw this yesterday in local market. They were edging sheets and I could smell it from distance. It was still there this morning so thought I share. Imran -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. |
Re: segmented pressure beam for AD 951?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAre the issues people reported here with noise due to not having the segmented pressure bar? Another advantage of segmented pressure bar (per Felder) is planing of thinner stock. Another option discussed here is the infeed roller with mixed feedback. The rubber coated one requires maintenance but the metal one may leave marks when taking light passes. My Dual51 has segmented pressure bar, metal infeed roller and tersa head. I love tersa head, have no complains with metal infeed roller. If there are any marks they do not require any additional high grit sanding than I normally do. It is mentioned here that re-coating rubber infeed roller is, IIRC, $200-$300. Imran On Feb 19, 2020, at 9:43 AM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote: ?
Most planers over 20" have the segmented chipbreaker ( pressure beam ).? When I buy used, those parts and springs are the first to have problems but if buying new, not an issue.? I'm to the age where chasing multiple pieces back and forth doesn't appeal to
me and I don't do enough volume that I care about the flexibility of that option.? If it comes to money, I'd take the second outfeed roller or a Tersa or spiral head.? I'm a Tersa first, spiral second guy but I'm in the minority.? I'd also put the extra cash
into a bigger dust collector.? Dave
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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 11:31 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] segmented pressure beam for AD 951? ?
Lining up my wish list for the AD951 and KF 700, with the help of forum members I am clear on the overheadhead guard for the KF, and saving $750 (much needed) by not getting the integrated adjustable rollers in the bed of the AD951. Now I am looking at
the?segmented pressure beam for the 951. Anyone have experienced advice about it? Many thanks!
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Re: Screws
Thanks Jonathan, Nice looking work I might add. My first move is to move up to bottom mount slides. Glen Big Tree Woodworking P.O. Box 257 Avery Ca 95224 On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:36 PM jontathan samways <jonathansamways@...> wrote:
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Re: segmented pressure beam for AD 951?
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Most planers over 20" have the segmented chipbreaker ( pressure beam ).? When I buy used, those parts and springs are the first to have problems but if buying new, not an issue.? I'm to the age where chasing multiple pieces back and forth doesn't appeal to
me and I don't do enough volume that I care about the flexibility of that option.? If it comes to money, I'd take the second outfeed roller or a Tersa or spiral head.? I'm a Tersa first, spiral second guy but I'm in the minority.? I'd also put the extra cash
into a bigger dust collector.? Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of kumar@... <kumar@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 11:31 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] segmented pressure beam for AD 951? ?
Lining up my wish list for the AD951 and KF 700, with the help of forum members I am clear on the overheadhead guard for the KF, and saving $750 (much needed) by not getting the integrated adjustable rollers in the bed of the AD951. Now I am looking at
the?segmented pressure beam for the 951. Anyone have experienced advice about it? Many thanks!
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segmented pressure beam for AD 951?
Lining up my wish list for the AD951 and KF 700, with the help of forum members I am clear on the overheadhead guard for the KF, and saving $750 (much needed) by not getting the integrated adjustable rollers in the bed of the AD951. Now I am looking at the?segmented pressure beam for the 951. Anyone have experienced advice about it? Many thanks!
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Re: I did something stupid!
Hi Mark, ? <<The PP produces Delta 3 Phase, which by definition has one leg at 208v to ground, and two legs at 120v to ground.? The 208v leg is called the "high leg.">> ? You may be in for a surprise as to voltage to ground on PP. PP produces pseudo 3 phase. It is something I have posted here but really no one cares but I think it is important for the user to know of the high voltage danger in PP unit. Mine is an older 10HP model, DPC-A10-N so not sure if this applies to newer and bigger HP models. Although, I will be surprised if they work differently. So what do I call pseudo 3 phase? Well PP sends out L1 & L2 unadulterated from the power co. In the attached (deltas) yellow and Cyan are my L1 & L2 from PP and they are 310 Vpkk (220V RMS). Note that as expected, that they are 180 deg out of phase. As you would know in ture 3 phase no 2 phases are at 0V at the same time due to 120 deg phase shift. Example attached (Phase000) from the RPC I built about 18 yrs ago. But when L1 & L2 are both at 0V the T3 has to be 310 Vpkk away. So PP creates T3, as shown by magenta trace in the attached (pp T3 Vppk), which is nearly 310 Vpkk above or below at each simultaneous zero crossing of L1 & L2. Phase to phase voltages are fine but if you lose L1 or L2 down stream then without these reference voltages being present there is 620 Vpkk (440V RMS) present at where ever T3 is connected downstream. I shared this with PP and they said my unit is working fine. Few yrs back, I lost a 10A fuse to KF700 in my distribution box (can¡¯t remember L1 or L2). I should have checke the fuse first but I have never had one go out until then and there was no high current stall etc to make me think that I lost the fuse. I was measuring voltages and noted high voltage but these scope plots from few yrs back did not click right away. Well the transformer in KF was producing 56V instead of 24V. In the end it all made sense. My question to PP was that do they not need to provide this info to users because I am pretty certain 600V requires different treatment in a machines electrical system (connectors, etc.) ? So take a measurement to ground on T3 on your unit and see what you find. Theoretically, all I see makes sense but maybe I am missing something. ? Imran ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mark thomas Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 11:38 AM To: David Kumm <davekumm@...>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] I did something stupid! ? I would offer a few points of clarification about all this: ? 1) People often refer to PP "manufactured leg", but being manufactured isn't the important point.? The PP produces Delta 3 Phase, which by definition has one leg at 208v to ground, and two legs at 120v to ground.? The 208v leg is called the "high leg."?? ? 2) The high leg conductor is to be red or orange.? ?In fact, some people call it the "red leg" because of this. ? 3) NEC says the high leg must be the B phase on panels: ? 408.3(E) Phase Arrangement. The phase arrangement on 3-phase buses shall be A, B, C from front to back, top to bottom, or left to right, as viewed from the front of the switchboard or panelboard.?The B phase shall be that phase having the higher voltage to ground on 3-phase, 4-wire, delta-connected systems.?? ? 4) NEMA receptacle lugs are labeled X, Y, Z.? ?There is no code spec for mapping phases A, B and C to NEMA lugs X, Y, and Z.? But common sense is that the "middle" phase be consistent.? ?So the Y lug should be the high leg. ? 5) For motors, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever which phase is connected to what, because motors do not use the leg-to-ground current and so they never see the 208v. ? 6) If you have an electrical component that requires 120v supply-to-ground and you connect it a 208v source (such as a Delta high leg), it's a problem.? ?This problem is not because the supply is "manufactured" nor because it's not "stable".? The problem is that it's the wrong voltage.? ? |
Re: I did something stupid!
According to the manual even after you disconnect power, it says to wait 30 minutes for internal charges to dissipate before servicing. Glen Big Tree Woodworking P.O. Box 257 Avery Ca 95224 On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 6:15 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Re: I did something stupid!
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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 8:35 PM To: imranindiana <imranindiana@...>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] I did something stupid! ?
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 05:31 PM, imranindiana wrote:
Even though there is voltage to ground there is no voltage phase to phase.Right, so when's it off you can't start motor but you can kill yourself ;-) |
Re: Screws
Thanks Michael, Yes I am disappointed in the slides I got, I just ordered some Blum under mounts and going to mock up a drawer and see how they do. I may just switch over to that. Glen Big Tree Woodworking P.O. Box 257 Avery Ca 95224 On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:54 AM Michael Glaser <1michaelglaser1@...> wrote: I don¡¯t have the sag issue if I use bumpers. But if I use Blum tip-on or Grass Tipmatic, I have to subtract 1mm from by bottom measurements to get a 3mm reveal otherwise it sags 1mm. Everyone in the CMA has this same issue. |