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Re: FB510 Vibration

 

James,

That is the knob that I am talking about and it does move the guide to the side. ? I snug that knob down and adjust the guides accordingly. ? If i go to tight, then it vibrates as shown in the video. ? I¡¯m curious if you tighten the knob if yours would vibrate the same? ??


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

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Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 11:04 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.

James?

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:53 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
But is the post through the whole range parallel?

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 10:44 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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Mark,

There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.

Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.

James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:36 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.

James?


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:53 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
But is the post through the whole range parallel?

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 10:44 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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Mark,

There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.

Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.

James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:36 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels

 
Edited

I do have this dial indicator for an A31 and find it useful and wonder if it really works on a K500 for the blade height.

Let me explain:

The OEM handwheels for a K500 blade height is not fixed to the arbor as you need to remove it to lock the blade angle adjustment. There is a lot of play when you turn the wheel due to the fact that the wheel is not lock. Thus, I do not see how useful the dial indicator with the ALU wheel can be as long as this play is present.

If anyone has use the dial indicator with the ALU wheel for the blade height adjustment can shim in that would be nice. So far, I use a oneway gauge and dial indicator, but this is laborious overtime as I need to get the apex of the blade tooth for proper measurement. I am looking for a more permanent setup for which you adjust one time and use it many many times.

Thanks,

Bill


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

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But is the post through the whole range parallel?

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 10:44 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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Mark,

There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.

Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.

James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:36 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

?
Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

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Well material can be removed or added to balance. I would try a magnet first. I have never done this but the thought came to mind.

Imran

On Feb 15, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Bill B¨¦langer <bllblngr@...> wrote:

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I spun the top wheel 13 times. 10 times it came to rest at 5-6-7 o¡¯clock. 3 times it stopped at 12. How much weight and what type of weight would I use??

Ran the motor alone, minimal vibration, not ?really smooth.?

This saw is sitting on the mobility device. I need to try it on a solid base tomorrow. That should help some.?

Bill Belanger?

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 20:36 Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

My ¡°top guide¡± was rubbing on the top wheel. I bent it out a little. I would have expected that of a Rikon.?

Bill B


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 20:36 Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

?
Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

Mark,

There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.

Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.

James


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:36 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

?
Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

I spun the top wheel 13 times. 10 times it came to rest at 5-6-7 o¡¯clock. 3 times it stopped at 12. How much weight and what type of weight would I use??

Ran the motor alone, minimal vibration, not ?really smooth.?

This saw is sitting on the mobility device. I need to try it on a solid base tomorrow. That should help some.?

Bill Belanger?

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 20:36 Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

?
Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

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One would hope the technician would know how to adjust the guides¡­



On Feb 14, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

?
Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

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Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??

Regards, Mark

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

?
Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

<Capture.JPG>


James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

Jay,

I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.

What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?

Capture.JPG

James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: Radial Drill Press purchase

 

I stumbled across Mike's site when watching some Sam Blasco videos.

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Dave Davies?


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:16 PM joelgelman via Groups.Io <joelgelman=[email protected]> wrote:
David, thanks for the feedback. I am familiar with that unit.? What I like most about a radial drill press is the fact that the table does not move.? I want to be able to set the height of the table flush with surrounding work surfaces and to better setup my fence and stops.? I like the idea of being able to have more distance from the column as a bonus. ? I believe that the vintage machines are better made than the new ones.?

I hope I like it better than the conventional drill press.? I will find out!



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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Radial Drill Press purchase

 

David, thanks for the feedback. I am familiar with that unit. ?What I like most about a radial drill press is the fact that the table does not move. ?I want to be able to set the height of the table flush with surrounding work surfaces and to better setup my fence and stops. ?I like the idea of being able to have more distance from the column as a bonus. ? I believe that the vintage machines are better made than the new ones.?

I hope I like it better than the conventional drill press. ?I will find out!


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp. ?The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??

The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being. ?It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?

I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.


Re: RL125 Extractor

 

As David said,

Make sure that when you push the cart inside the RL and lift the handle the bag is not pinch by the air vacuum tube at the back.

Bill


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

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Me neither. Although I did have an issue with the tilting function. The tech swapped out the guides and it resolved. FB510

Michael Tagge
Built Custom Carpentry


Michael Tagge
Sent from mobile device
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From: [email protected] on behalf of James Zhu <james.zhu2@...>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:29 PM
To: Felder Owner Group; jbod@...
Subject: Re: [FOG] FB510 Vibration
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Wow, Something is absolutely wrong. If Felder technician cannot fix such excessive vibration, Felder should give you a full refund.

Btw, I have Felder FB510, I do not have the vibration issue.

James

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 6:58 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
This is what the vibration is like with the upper guide clamped down tight.


Re: FB510 Vibration

 

Wow, Something is absolutely wrong. If Felder technician cannot fix such excessive vibration, Felder should give you a full refund.

Btw, I have Felder FB510, I do not have the vibration issue.

James


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 6:58 PM jay bodnar <jbod@...> wrote:
This is what the vibration is like with the upper guide clamped down tight.


For Sale: Hammer K3 Winner 31x31

Ron Magliocco
 

Located in Bridgeport CT. Custom retractable casters ?hobby use. Upgraded to a bigger machine so this one has to go ?$3500


Re: RL125 Extractor

 

Mark,
? You may have the black tube blocked that allows a vacuum to hold the bag in the?bin.
Dave Davies

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 5:56 PM Bean via Groups.Io <mdyke=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

Just got my new RL125 up and running. Done a small amount of work, then thought I would look to see how much the extractor had collected.
On pulling the wheeled bin out noticed the bag had been sucked up inside the machine, any idea what I am doing wrong please.

Mark.



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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868