Before I start isolating the motor, wheels, etc. I thought I should ask if the vibration in the FB510 is normal. I've owned 4 Grizzly bandsaws in different sizes and none of them shook like this new FB510 does. I thought I was upgrading from Griz, but the cuts off this saw are nothing to be exited about. If y'all tell me it's normal, I'll live with it, or try to find a buyer. I'm already living with a foot brake while the Grizzly had an automatic brake.
Thanks in advance.
Bill Bélanger
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Doug, let me know if harvey will ship separately for a group buy.? I'm interested for my old Whitney.? Dave
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$705 for one $605 for two, I did not ask about shipping 45 days lead time. I got a e-mail in January 2020. From China. Some one gave me a name and phone number in California. I have not had time to call them yet. Been under the weather and don’t feel like
calling yet.?(800) 253-3332 This is the number this is an corporate office per the e-mail I got. I don’t want to send money to China that is why I did not
buy it already. Keep me updated. Thanks Doug
On Thursday, February 13, 2020, 11:53:34 PM CST, John Harden <caliplinker2@...> wrote:
Here's pics of the Harvey Shark S-12.? I sent them a message to see what shipping would cost and also to confirm that the bubble shroud on the left can be moved to the right side.? I'm sure it can.
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$705 for one $605 for two, I did not ask about shipping 45 days lead time. I got a e-mail in January 2020. From China. Some one gave me a name and phone number in California. I have not had time to call them yet. Been under the weather and don’t feel like calling yet.?(800) 253-3332 This is the number this is an corporate office per the e-mail I got. I don’t want to send money to China that is why I did not buy it already. Keep me updated. Thanks Doug
On Thursday, February 13, 2020, 11:53:34 PM CST, John Harden <caliplinker2@...> wrote:
Here's pics of the Harvey Shark S-12.? I sent them a message to see what shipping would cost and also to confirm that the bubble shroud on the left can be moved to the right side.? I'm sure it can.
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Thank you for the added info. I missed the point about commonality of parts and was not informed where the interested parties are located.
Perhaps I'll have an opportunity to visit Grizzly in Bellingham in the near future and would hope to see their model on display.
Bob
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Here's pics of the Harvey Shark S-12.? I sent them a message to see what shipping would cost and also to confirm that the bubble shroud on the left can be moved to the right side.? I'm sure it can.
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Bill, ?Your bandsaw fence extrusion is probably the same as the rip fence on your Kappa. ?:-)
David Best
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On Feb 13, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote:
Thanks for the info.? I purchased a Felder bandsaw in part because I was told that accessories were interchangeable.
BB On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:04 PM Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression < airtightclamps@...> wrote: Like David said ,,,so if you want extension for your f coupling you have to order the extension with ?F Coupling. I imagine the design of. The prism? Is much easier to slide along than the F. I think Felder was wanting to get away from the different materials and there expansion characteristics ?and the effects on the. Slider. Mac,,, Designing and building for 47 years On Feb 13, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the clarification. One would think that design engineers ?would make an effort....
Bill
David is correct. The cast iron F channel accessory tables that are roughly the same size as the aluminum P channel ones DO fit band saws as well as the back side of my KF700S.?
I have one installed as an outfeed on panel saw and bought a second along with two sets of mounting hardware. One is on my Felder jointer/planer and second is on my MiniMax band saw.?
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 3:05 PM Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote: I was under the impression that the table that is part of the Felder parallel fence would also fit the bandsaw as an auxiliary table.
Am I mistaken, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger
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Re: Radial Drill Press purchase
Hey Joel
My drill press is a delight to use.??
Check it out:?
What amazes me is forstner bits and drill bits that I considered less than ideal when drilling with my previous drill press now create very clean holes with very little effort.
The larger than usual table is about 16" (>400mm) square.
Cheers
David
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So far I have been pleasantly surprised at the dimensional ability of mine. I specified a 3/4” hole and printed the part and a 3/4” shoulder bolt was a snug fit. Small holes I don’t get so lucky on, but they can be chased with a reamer or drill bit. I tend to print with extra layers around the shell, or even print solid and have had decent luck with threading holes and such.?
They are a tool like anything else, useful to an extent and great within their limitations.
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Totally the way to go, we use ours alot for that. lately we have been designing a lot of electrical connectors and they are great for that, I have also made quite a few assembly fixtures for production. I have the most issues with round holes, they are never perfectly round so where critical I undersize then chase it with a drill bit also we usually have to adjust the model to print to an exact size but its not always that critical. I have used dovetails to connect parts and that works well on the markforged printer. Regards, Mark On Feb 13, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? I have a Creality CR-10, it’s about 3 years old now I think… It’s not by any means a great printer, but it does up to a 12” cube and I get pretty good prints out of it. I use it a lot for prototyping parts and finalizing designs. It’s a whole lot easier to design a part, start up the printer and let it print all night and check my finished part in the morning, and then make any changes before I commit to actually machining anything.
Brian, which 3d printer do you have and do you like it? We have a Markforged, Form3, zprinter 450 and a Metal printer in our Lux plant.?
I like the Markforged the best and the zpinter the least Regards, Mark On Feb 13, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? I use my 3D printer a lot to test fit things, make fixtures to hold parts for laser engraving… all sorts of things. I recently was helping my daughter on her kitchen remodel and she picked a three dimensional tile for her backsplash. It didn’t work so well with the electrical outlet trims, so I used my 3D printer to make extension rings so we could tile up to a straight edge and then put the electrical trim on and have it look right.
Before we installed the tile…. <fmCuvnVHg3WleWuQ6kqdbGuKKxO-CNv-1A6iw4ynqxrRbC4sOk5qN8QJ40pn6peqstOoonrsm87VSZT2m_0gyYmfwOevEcLL5p7S_QU-eeQTck9YbzHyQjfKPy5NlZYuEEiwAVqvzczh0MBkDf1BnLODKF0yOwob90oB6j9d8VXVRfZp4QyXn7TelEFEdVy2tMZ4bjXd_Y46wEM-9H9LRTOCIJR9TNKRPA8LVoYyeEKD_1nR=w806-h1074-no.>
After the tile….
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We have been using 3d printing for 15ish years to iterate on designs but thats pretty much it, if we need a precise parts metal needs to be cut, even parts that come off our metal 3d printer are useless unless secondary operations are done with traditional machinery.? Regards, Mark On Feb 13, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Bill James via Groups.Io <xxrb2010@...> wrote:
?Mark you are an early adopter,
Not sure there are many people out there 3D printing stuff to get it produced somewhere else, but I like it,
Bill
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Thanks for the info.? I purchased a Felder bandsaw in part because I was told that accessories were interchangeable.
BB
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:04 PM Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression < airtightclamps@...> wrote: Like David said ,,,so if you want extension for your f coupling you have to order the extension with ?F Coupling. I imagine the design of. The prism? Is much easier to slide along than the F. I think Felder was wanting to get away from the different materials and there expansion characteristics ?and the effects on the. Slider. Mac,,, Designing and building for 47 years On Feb 13, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the clarification. One would think that design engineers ?would make an effort....
Bill
David is correct. The cast iron F channel accessory tables that are roughly the same size as the aluminum P channel ones DO fit band saws as well as the back side of my KF700S.?
I have one installed as an outfeed on panel saw and bought a second along with two sets of mounting hardware. One is on my Felder jointer/planer and second is on my MiniMax band saw.?
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 3:05 PM Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote: I was under the impression that the table that is part of the Felder parallel fence would also fit the bandsaw as an auxiliary table.
Am I mistaken, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger
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Totally the way to go, we use ours alot for that. lately we have been designing a lot of electrical connectors and they are great for that, I have also made quite a few assembly fixtures for production. I have the most issues with round holes, they are never perfectly round so where critical I undersize then chase it with a drill bit also we usually have to adjust the model to print to an exact size but its not always that critical. I have used dovetails to connect parts and that works well on the markforged printer. Regards, Mark
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On Feb 13, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? I have a Creality CR-10, it’s about 3 years old now I think… It’s not by any means a great printer, but it does up to a 12” cube and I get pretty good prints out of it. I use it a lot for prototyping parts and finalizing designs. It’s a whole lot easier to design a part, start up the printer and let it print all night and check my finished part in the morning, and then make any changes before I commit to actually machining anything.
Brian, which 3d printer do you have and do you like it? We have a Markforged, Form3, zprinter 450 and a Metal printer in our Lux plant.?
I like the Markforged the best and the zpinter the least Regards, Mark On Feb 13, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? I use my 3D printer a lot to test fit things, make fixtures to hold parts for laser engraving… all sorts of things. I recently was helping my daughter on her kitchen remodel and she picked a three dimensional tile for her backsplash. It didn’t work so well with the electrical outlet trims, so I used my 3D printer to make extension rings so we could tile up to a straight edge and then put the electrical trim on and have it look right.
Before we installed the tile…. <fmCuvnVHg3WleWuQ6kqdbGuKKxO-CNv-1A6iw4ynqxrRbC4sOk5qN8QJ40pn6peqstOoonrsm87VSZT2m_0gyYmfwOevEcLL5p7S_QU-eeQTck9YbzHyQjfKPy5NlZYuEEiwAVqvzczh0MBkDf1BnLODKF0yOwob90oB6j9d8VXVRfZp4QyXn7TelEFEdVy2tMZ4bjXd_Y46wEM-9H9LRTOCIJR9TNKRPA8LVoYyeEKD_1nR=w806-h1074-no.>
After the tile….
<XbwaQF30UpMz3Yv5nDBRO-e5yWFAx-RJHWkYBjOAmdwiR1YS4gqa13wSTqVbr0ukXJVrldxAbr2fa7UaupjSxmQwMF3GfviiQ7UOLPohL1vN2V4w5-_kCWCZiapTEV2ndIenGhr_lbOxarSLaL85lKlB9OB44Zk58TKFFzyNqDDiCwPa5Q01vfA6AfqdhEosbH7lcrXr5bCPIsZ0ihpcL8_AJQpuljJp_IQVBVw79dN4ABHX=w806-h1074-no.>
We have been using 3d printing for 15ish years to iterate on designs but thats pretty much it, if we need a precise parts metal needs to be cut, even parts that come off our metal 3d printer are useless unless secondary operations are done with traditional machinery.? Regards, Mark On Feb 13, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Bill James via Groups.Io <xxrb2010@...> wrote:
?Mark you are an early adopter,
Not sure there are many people out there 3D printing stuff to get it produced somewhere else, but I like it,
Bill
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Like David said ,,,so if you want extension for your f coupling you have to order the extension with ?F Coupling. I imagine the design of. The prism? Is much easier to slide along than the F. I think Felder was wanting to get away from the different materials and there expansion characteristics ?and the effects on the. Slider. Mac,,, Designing and building for 47 years
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On Feb 13, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the clarification. One would think that design engineers ?would make an effort....
Bill
David is correct. The cast iron F channel accessory tables that are roughly the same size as the aluminum P channel ones DO fit band saws as well as the back side of my KF700S.?
I have one installed as an outfeed on panel saw and bought a second along with two sets of mounting hardware. One is on my Felder jointer/planer and second is on my MiniMax band saw.?
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 3:05 PM Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote: I was under the impression that the table that is part of the Felder parallel fence would also fit the bandsaw as an auxiliary table.
Am I mistaken, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger
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Thanks for the clarification. One would think that design engineers ?would make an effort....
Bill
David is correct. The cast iron F channel accessory tables that are roughly the same size as the aluminum P channel ones DO fit band saws as well as the back side of my KF700S.?
I have one installed as an outfeed on panel saw and bought a second along with two sets of mounting hardware. One is on my Felder jointer/planer and second is on my MiniMax band saw.?
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 3:05 PM Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote: I was under the impression that the table that is part of the Felder parallel fence would also fit the bandsaw as an auxiliary table.
Am I mistaken, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger
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Hmmmm. I'm wondering about costs to have one shipped to SoCal.? I like the one you found a lot better than the $300?Grizzly or Shark Guard
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 1:15 PM Sang Luu < sangluu@...> wrote: OAV got back to me with a much better quote via air freight. It comes out to around $661 for each unit shipped to SFO. I guess we have some cost savings due to the crating into one unit but there's still the transport needed from SFO to wherever you are.? I haven't decided to purchase from them but I wanted to share this with the group, in case folks are still interested.?
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David is correct. The cast iron F channel accessory tables that are roughly the same size as the aluminum P channel ones DO fit band saws as well as the back side of my KF700S.?
I have one installed as an outfeed on panel saw and bought a second along with two sets of mounting hardware. One is on my Felder jointer/planer and second is on my MiniMax band saw.?
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 3:05 PM Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote: I was under the impression that the table that is part of the Felder parallel fence would also fit the bandsaw as an auxiliary table.
Am I mistaken, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger
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Hi Bill? Please send me picture Designing and building for 47 years
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On Feb 13, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:
?I was under the impression that the table that is part of the Felder parallel fence would also fit the bandsaw as an auxiliary table. Am I mistaken, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance Bill Bélanger
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Bill,
The sliding table has a Prisim or P-channel edge. ? The bandsaw and planer have an F-channel edge. ? The accessories for one do not fit the other.
David Best
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On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote:
I was under the impression that the table that is part of the Felder parallel fence would also fit the bandsaw as an auxiliary table.
Am I mistaken, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger
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I was under the impression that the table that is part of the Felder parallel fence would also fit the bandsaw as an auxiliary table.
Am I mistaken, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger
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Bob,
I'm more than certain they can ship to SEA so for Pacific Northwest members, that might be a better option than going through a group buy focused around SFO. Myself and one other member are SF Bay with another in SoCal, so it would make sense for us logistically somewhat to get it here first. There are others in the midwest and such that will need the forwarding.?
To answer your question about asking OAV for US references -- no, I haven't done that but I have called around and saw that Laguna and Grizzly's sliders feature this very exact guard (even down to the part numbers, etc.) so it's already in use. I supposed you could call either Laguna or Grizzly to ask about performance. I don't plan to though :).?
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Hi Sang Lu,
Yes, I am interested.? Perhaps the crate can be forwarded to a depot in Seattle where we all could meet and open the crate in the parking lot to save further cost of a second delivery.? Not sure how it works, but I'd expect delivery at SFO to a freight agent would get it through customs and onto a LTL shipment to Seattle.? Just a guess on cost could be $400-500.? I wonder if they can ship it direct to SEA?
However I point out we have not seen one of the guards, and as we push the cost up towards $1K, our options for other makes increase.? Have you asked if they have sold one or more units in the US that we could contact and ask about their experience with it?? I went through an similar exercise buying from China several years ago, an induction forge on Alibaba.? Despite my concerns, it all went very well and I no problems with the machine or its delivery.
Thank you for doing all the footwork, and please keep working on it,
Bob
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