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Tannewitz disassembly questions for the brain trust
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNeed some help from my FOG friends.? The first two pics are just a curiosity.? They are pics of the nut that is on the end of the upper wheel shaft opposite the wheel.? There is a slot around about 1/5th of the nut and a set screw in the face.? Is this to lock the nut in place once the preload on the bearings is correct? I¡¯ve never seen one before. ? The second two pics are of the other end of the shaft.? Next to the bearing is what looks like a bushing with two holes, 180 degrees apart around the bushing.? Seems like that might be threaded but not sure.? I tried tapping with a punch and it does not seem to want to rotate.? Any advice on how to get this off, or do I just press the shaft out from the other side? ?
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Hammer C3-31 cuts out issue
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HI fellow woodies, I bought new a 2002 C3-31 and mostly use the table saw, (bought a used mini-max 350 for separate jointer planer) and Ive been having an issue where it cuts out when using it for not too long or like earlier when I was resaving dried spruce 2x4's for spacers and took a while to resew 14 of them as it cut out about 8-9 times. ?it trips the power switch and then I have to wait about two minutes or switch will not stay in on position or it will but will cut out again when pushing any load through saw. ?one thing to note is Felder sent me a new 3 KW motor that I had to pay an electrician to wire up cause it was way underpowered. ?the 3KW compared to the 2.2 KW motor has more power for sure, but sadly being used to Delta unisaw and powermatic 66 it does not have that kind of power. ?Anyhow, Im not sure if it has anything to do with a safety cutoff or heat buildup, (but, seriously softwood resawing I should be able to run 3-1/2" through with an aggressive rip blade, but I ended up resaving half and then turning over and finishing the rest and still cut out on me, HELP PLEASE(-; ? ? ?Whilst Im here I thought I'd share a valuable remedy for vibration and cleaner cuts. ?My machine along with power and cutoff issues had a vibration issue and even with a sharp HI-AT Forrest blade in wouldn't yield clean cuts. ?I was able to mostly remedy this with a blade stabilizer from Forrest that is basically a small diameter blade without the teeth and it has helped a lot. ?cheers!
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Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
I had a similar drill press. It's from Axminster and it looks very much like a Powermatic, but I have no clue if it's the same machine or not. I wasn't happy with it. It was unbalanced, had runout and the variable gear thingy sounded like crap. A year ago I bought a machinist drill press, and I couldn't be happier. (there is probably a better word than "machinist drill press", but I don't have it)
This categorisation might not be universal, but from my amateur point of view there seems to be some distinct differences between wood working drill presses and machinist drill presses. The machinist ones tend to have better tolerances, i.e. more true, less vibrations, less runout. Woodworking drill presses tend to have more quill movement, which is needed for longer drills. You also won't have to adjust the table height as often when the quill can move longer. Machinist drill presses are usually meant for metal work, so the rpm tends to be lower. After much searching I found one that checked most of the boxes: - didn't cost me an arm and a leg - variable speed without having to manually switch over the rubber things (sorry, don't know the word for this) - reasonable quill movement ( I have 85 mm) - Not too low max rpm. I wish mine could go higher for very small drills, but 1900 rpm cover most of what I need? (edit: corrected rpm) My new machine is not a high end machine (the Axminster was about 1200 EUR, the new one was about 1600 EUR), but the difference is massive. I actually still put on a smile when I use the new one. It runs soo smooth and cuts much better. Edit: -------- After finding the link, I now realise that the brand was a Jet. Maybe Jet is an OEM of Powermatic, or a rip-off, I don't know. Also, I now remember that the depth stop had quite some flex. I never trusted it. ---------- The old and the new is shown on the pictures below. |
Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI have a 2800.? It's been disappointing since the day I bought it.? The variable speed mechanism shakes like an unbalanced washing machine when you set it towards the bottom the range.? I called Powermatic about the issues and they were worthless.? I should have returned it.? Unless I happen into some old iron, I have no plans to ever purchase another piece of Powermatic equipment. The web page for the 2820 looks beautiful, but I'm not feeling good enough about modern Powermatic equipment to want to give them more of my money, ever. -- Michael Garrison Stuber On 11/4/2020 3:50 PM, Mark Kessler
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Whoops, the 2820 is the new one i saw - duh, well now you have my thoughts on the 2800 -- Michael Garrison Stuber |
Re: Felder g330 edgebander
I don't have that machine, but in that situation I usually cut a blank to width that will make all the fronts for a cabinet bank. Edge band the sides, then rip it apart and band the top and bottom. Make sense?
Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 |
Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
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#2 is about 3200 and later model 3 is about 3600.? The #3 has a little slower auto feed rate ( each has three feeds ) which is nicer for boring steel.? Key is to find one with good bearings.? The ABEC 9 bearings have something like a 200 lb preload so they
are expensive and difficult to replace.? I got lucky with this one.? Machines and tooling including several Albrecht chucks for $900.? I found out the two Singer sewing lamps on it are sought after by designers and? are worth about what I paid by themselves.?
Too cool to sell though.? Dave From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric Janson <jej@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 7:04 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press ?
OMG, what does the Moore weigh? Would win the vibration damping contest for certain!
On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 4:57 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
OMG, what does the Moore weigh? Would win the vibration damping contest for certain! On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 4:57 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
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For an off the wall choice, here is my Moore #2.? Won't do milling but will do boring, drilling and tapping with fast changeover.? Two ranges of speed from 0-2400 rpm.? Accuracy on the X and Y is in tenths which is better than the operator.? Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 6:47 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press ?
That has been out for awhile, there is a gearhead version I just recently saw that seems to be new.?
Anyways we have the 2820 in the R&D lab that I work in, it¡¯s ok but the variable speed switch went bad within the first couple months (which they replaced promptly, i was impressed with the service) and had terrible runout, I replaced the chuck with like
a $500 one that we had in our tool crib and it has minimal run out now so I am assuming it was the original chuck, haven¡¯t have any issues since then but we don¡¯t use it a lot and most of the drilling is around 1/4¡± in steel and aluminum.
Regards, Mark
On Nov 4, 2020, at 6:24 PM, G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:
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Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhoops, the 2820 is the new one i saw - duh, well now you have my thoughts on the 2800Regards, Mark |
Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIf I wanted a new dedicated drill press, I would buy an Ellis. ?Great quality products from a family owned business. ??? David Best https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThat has been out for awhile, there is a gearhead version I just recently saw that seems to be new.?Anyways we have the 2820 in the R&D lab that I work in, it¡¯s ok but the variable speed switch went bad within the first couple months (which they replaced promptly, i was impressed with the service) and had terrible runout, I replaced the chuck with like a $500 one that we had in our tool crib and it has minimal run out now so I am assuming it was the original chuck, haven¡¯t have any issues since then but we don¡¯t use it a lot and most of the drilling is around 1/4¡± in steel and aluminum. Regards, Mark On Nov 4, 2020, at 6:24 PM, G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:
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Replacement filters for RL Dust extractors
#dustcollection
#whysoexpensive
Hey all - So I've had my RL 200 for going on 7 years, and finally need to replace the filters. As expected at $666 USD each (x2 in the RL200), the filters cost significantly more than many stand alone dust collectors.?
Has anyone here had any luck finding an aftermarket filter for their RL's? Thanks in advance Matthew |
Re: Felder g330 edgebander
We use to handle that two different ways.
A) leave your board tall...cut only to width of drawer fronts. Band two sides...then slice that into drawers fronts. Edge top and bottom of each. Or 2) We would run a ¡°chaser¡± piece held tight to the narrow drawer front but held back from the edge banding and cutters. The chaser helps hold the narrow drawer fronts from shifting. Hope that makes sense, Ramon Ramon Valdez |
Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead
Sorry guys if I caused the confusion.? I see what Felder does.? The part number was changed (from 04.0.160 to 04.1.160), but the cutter's name stays the same, "Adjustable High Performance Rebate Head, 4 drawing cutting, RB-HW."? I searched the archive using the new part number, resulting in this old thread coming up.
It appears the new cutter set does not have locating pins.?? So, 04.0.160 as of 2015 had the locating pins.?? The current set, 04.1.160 (2020), does not have the locating pins.?? Again, sorry for the confusion. SW |
Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead
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On Nov 4, 2020, at 2:26 PM, michael@... wrote:
?04.0.160 was the PN first mentioned in this thread. 04.1.160 was not mentioned until Shinta asked for it. 04.1.160 is the one I have, hence my answer to Shinta and not the OP. |