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Re: KF 700 SP options


 

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SW,

If you are going to make windows with your KF700 and you are want to cut large tenons with cutters larger than 220mm you will run into some problems.

To run 300mm cutters on my F700z shaper I had to run them above the table and then run the parts to be tenoned on a spacer. ?Since the sleeves of my large window cutters are 100mm tall I only had about 10 mm of adjustment left in the system. ?One of the reasons I upgraded to a Profile 45z is that I can submerge the big 300mm cutters into the table as the opening in the table is larger than the 700 series shaper. ?I can also run up to 240mm cutters in the shaper hood. ?The F700z was limited to 220mm and the Aigner fence plates only opened to 190mm meaning I could not cut a tenon the full depth available from the Felder 220 mm rebate disks.?

You can avoid the large tenon cutters by using dowel construction but to do dowel construction efficiently you will need a machine like a Stegherr FD Junior.

There are window cutter sets for other types of windows (non-tilt and turn) that don¡¯t require large tenon disks, which set from rangate are you looking at?

Greg at Rangate is a very knowledgable guy and I highly recommend Rangate when it comes to shaper tooling. ?

You won¡¯t be sorry if you buy tooling from Greg. ?Great tooling makes things very easy. ?I don¡¯t even have to sand profiles with Rangate/Zuani/Garniga tooling.?

Joe in New Orleans



On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:42 PM, vnh84@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:


Thanks Joe, David, Lucky, Mark and Gary.? Your replies have been tremendously helpful and informative.

Given testimonies from David and Lucky, I will just order the standard digital stops with one of the two stops on the telescoping arm.? Adding it later is difficult it sounds; much easier to add the 604-118 digital stop in the future.??

I will ask Liz to change the spindle moulder size to 30mm.? From what I gather from exploring Rangate website, the money is in the tooling.? The machine cost pales in comparison.? A window tooling set costs 12K USD!!!? I have not used a shaper ever.? It is one of the few machines that I find intimidating and dangerous, yet so capable.? So, I am educating myself about shaper, Aigner, tooling, etc.??

I am waiting for Liz to quote me the cost to upgrade to the 10 HP motor.? Given the advise here, I will probably stay with the 7.4 HP motor and will have some overhead room for the PP 330.

Given what David said about the dust extractor position for 49" clearance to the right of the blade, I might as well stay with the 49" rip capacity option.? One of the pluses of this machine is the ability? to process full-size sheet goods.??

If anything I learn from the forum, it's the length of the slider.? Get the longest!? Fortunately, I have more than enough room for the 3200mm slider.??


I looked at David's pictures.? David, you have the mitre indexing system.? Is that Option 170 or 173?? Do you find it useful and simple to use?? It looks complicated from the pictures and catalog.? I cannot tell if it can be used accurately.??

I recall reading that the KF 700 SP should be specified at time of order to configure it to be able to use! a grooving/dado cutter without removal of the scoring blade.? Can someone elaborate on this?? This information is not in the catalog or at Felder website.??

Once again, thanks for your guidance.??

SW




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