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Some Martin machines are rebadged Griggio so you have to know what you are looking at even with Martin.? Hoffmann will argue they are superior to Martin, just not available here.? My point is to do lots of homework, at least until you have more retirement assets than needed.? Dave




From: felder-woodworking@... on behalf of James Zhu james.zhu2@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:32 AM
To: phil_moger@... [felder-woodworking]
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Hello all,
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Martin does not make all the woodworking machines, but for all the machines and accessories??has on their websites, IMO they are the best in the world.

If money is not an issue, and you want the best, it is a trivial task, just check ?.

James

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:05 AM, David Kumm davekumm@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Glen, I'd ask if there is a reason to buy all machines from one company.? As great as Felder is, I don't believe every machine in every line is the best choice.? I don't think any company can claim that.? I'd also ask why the jointer planer combo if you have the room for separates.? Given your high end budget, spend some time looking at how each machine is built relative to the competition and then decide.? Felder makes some machines that when on sale are terrific values ( Kappa saw is one ) but others that I don't feel lead the pack.? Same for SCM, Griggio, Casadei, even Martin.? Same for cars.? Dave




From: felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GLEN chris3645@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 9:14 PM
To: felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Hello all,
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Thank you David for welcoming me aboard,
I have looked at a lot of different companies over the last year, and i really like The Felder company. I have been to there offices in Sacramento, Ca? a few times, what really sold me was Harry? was out from Austria getting ready for a trade show in Florida and I knew he was there for other things but , he spent the day with me and we took apart a 700SP and he gave me more knowledge in that six hours then I have had in my life time. with that I am sold.

So here I go:
Things have changed in woodworking in fifteen years, so I now have a learning curve.
My Purchase Order with Felder is (still working on options and tooling)?

Kappa 400 X Motion
AD 951 or 741
Profil 45 Z X motion
Forka 300 s Eco
FW 950 Classic ( not on my purchase order but maybe some day()
FB190
RL200
Fat300 for 2

The building has 3 phase 480.
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I will have about 2400 Sq Ft not including office space that I don't? need

As for what i am going to build, that is the big unknown, I have ideas and I will make it work

I can build one hell of a table beyond that the learning curve starts

Glen?




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From: David Luckensmeyer dhluckens@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com>
To: felder-woodworking <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Hello all,

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Hi Glen:

Welcome to the group! Looking forward to helping you.

Regarding your question about ¡°bad experiences¡±, I think perhaps that is not the right question. Most of us are long-term, repeat Felder customers who have invested a lot of time and money into Felder machines, along with many other brands. We can probably all tell stories about ¡°bad experiences¡±, whether about a particular machine, or a particular service representative. Here the context would be most important. Was the ¡°bad experience¡± last year or fifteen years ago? Was it West coast or East coast, or somewhere like Australia (where I am)? And so forth. Make sense?

Perhaps a more useful question would be: ¡°Would you buy Felder again?¡±

My answer is absolutely. This company is not perfect. The service is not perfect. The machines are not perfect. But they are very well designed (in the main), very well built (in the main), and the service is much better than average (again, in the main). I have quite a few of their machines and have spent a lot of money with Felder. I, for one, will continue to buy Felder.

There are many here who can help you with the machines you¡¯re considering, and what options to buy. But we need more information, like:

How much do you want to spend? $10k, $20k, $100k?

What power do you have, or are you willing to put in?

What size space do you have? (This is important for sliding table lengths.)

And what kind of ¡°woodwork¡± do you like to do? Small, detailed items; big interior design work; veneer or solid? Etc.

These are exciting times for you!


Warm regards,
David

Dr David Luckensmeyer
Practice Manager
Luckensmeyer Medical Pty Ltd
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and

Designer and Woodworker
Original Designs in Wood
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On 30 Nov 2016, at 8:24 AM, GLEN chris3645@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I am a new joiner to the group and would like to introduce myself.
My name is Glen and I am purchasing some Felder tools. I am Glad to find this group to get in touch and learn more.
I grew up in wood, my dad was a cabinet builder , boat builder or just anything anyone would bring him he could build
Ten years ago I got out of wood and got in the grocery business. It was the best and worse thing I ever did. The best thing was i made money , the bad was 100 hour work weeks and missing sawdust. In those ten years i put some money away every month so i could get my workshop back when i retired. I am retiring in 32 days and about 10 hours. Ha. So as i try and figure out what I am buying,how to plan shop layout, dust collection, what im going to make to sell if anything and why im even really doing this, I am looking for knowledge from other people. I have nothing but questions and this is a one time thing for me that I have to get right. My girl friend was ok with it ( "It will give you something to do and keep you busy") until I told her how much i was going to spend.?
Sorry to drag on but i am excited to join this group and other related groups to learn how you all do. it.

Thanks Glen
Question one, who has had any bad experiences with Felder?


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From: James Zhu?james.zhu2@...?[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com>
To:?phil_moger@...?[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 10:16 am
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Re: See the new dust collector?

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I read another post?.

The machine sold in states comes with 5 micron filter, 1 micron is an option you can upgrade. I believe the machine sold in Europe will have 1 micron filter.

James


On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:16 PM, James Zhu?<james.zhu2@...>?wrote:
I think it is a typo.?

If it was 5 micron, I do not think the owner of bridge city would buy it because he is allergic to wood dust as mentioned in the following review of his new dust collector.



James







On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM,?andy.giddings@...?[felder-woodworking]?<felder-woodworking@...>?wrote:
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As the filter appears to be 5 micron, seems more like a large dust distributor than a collector :-) Hope that's a misprint





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