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Re: AF-22 Dust Collector


Charlie Norton
 

I cannot respond regarding three phase vs single phase in the Felder AF-22,
but my BF7-41 originally shipped with single phase motors which were (in my
opinion) noisy and caused the machine base to vibrate. Felder graciously
swapped out the motors for three phase which were quieter and produced
dramatically lower vibration.

Felder hinted that the single phase motor supplier was providing motors that
had a wide range of these characteristics...that is some were as quiet as a
three phase and some were much, much noisier. I don't know if the same
supplier is used for the dust collector.

Single and three phase motors should produce roughly the same rotation speed
when powered from the same line frequency. The synch speed is obviously the
same and the slip is within a couple percent.

I use a single phase 3HP Leeson powered blower exhausting a cyclone and it
sounds like an F-16! I have mounted the unit in the attic above my garage
to keep the noise out of the working area. I have yet to complete the air
ducting, so I hope this works out.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Shepherd <geoff@...>
To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: Sunday, February 13, 2000 6:16 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] AF-22 Dust Collector


John,

Is your AF-22 dust collector single phase? I gather it is based on your
comments of using a standard X-10 compatible wireless 220v switch. At the
other Felder owner's shop in Seattle that I visited yesterday, he told me
about his experience with his AF-22 being too noisy. That unit was also
single-phase. According to the Felder rep who visited, the problem on the
older versions of the AF-22 was that the single-phase motor was rated for
50
Hz, but on 60 Hz it ran 20% faster which threw a big wrench into their
careful system design. They tried to subsitute a smaller impeller, but
couldn't pull the existing one off the shaft. That particular unit went
back
to Felder and was replaced with an Oneida 2hp cyclone system.

As you know, I couldn't believe how quietly the used AF-22 I bought with my
BF6-31 ran when I tried it out before buying. That unit is a three-phase
model, and may not be affected by the same issue of running too fast. Not
sure why that would be, but it was something we wondered about while
discussing it yesterday.

Any thoughts, John or anyone else? Does anyone else have an relatively
quiet
running AF-22? Single phase or three phase? Anyone have the new redesigned
AF-22LN? How quiet is it? With my preoccupation with power tool noise,
maybe
I should buy a sound level meter one of these days!

--
Geoff Shepherd
(felder-woodworking group manager)
mailto:Geoff@...
Everett, WA
BF6-31, AF-22 (not wired in yet!)



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