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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Jim Overton" <jimo@...>
2. RE: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials y et?
From: sbonder@...
3. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Paul Jordan" <pjordan@...>
4. Waiting for Santa
From: "Seth Honeyman" <shoneyma@...>
5. Christmas Catalog
From: jim@...
6. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: Charlie Norton <cnorton@...>
7. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Fred Julius" <fredj@...>
8. Christmas catalog
From: "Rod Boston" <rboston@...>
9. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
10. Christmas Catalog scans uploaded
From: "Scott Slater" <scott@...>
11. RE: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded
From: "Scott Slater" <scott@...>
12. Re: Electric brake on saw?
From: "John Gubb" <john.gubb@...>
13. RE: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
14. Re: Christmas Catalog
From: "John Gubb" <john.gubb@...>
15. Re: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded
From: mhamester@...
16. Re: Bandsaw tracking question
From: "Dan Schultz" <dschultz@...>
17. Re: Re: Bandsaw tracking question
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
18. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Jim Overton" <jimo@...>
19. Re: rjasong@... Electric brake on saw?
From: lse872139@...
20. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Ron Zimmerman" <ron_zimmerman@...>
21. New machine delivery
From: glennwarner@...


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:04:19 -0000
From: "Jim Overton" <jimo@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

No catalog in San Antonio yet, but then they didn't say which
Christmas.

Jim


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "James Voos" <jvoos@p...>
wrote:

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check

when

it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:05:38 -0500
From: sbonder@...
Subject: RE: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials y et?

none in atlanta, but then again maybe they are waiting for my felder to
arrive next week.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Overton [mailto:jimo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 9:04 AM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials
yet?


No catalog in San Antonio yet, but then they didn't say which
Christmas.

Jim


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "James Voos" <jvoos@p...>
wrote:

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check

when

it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:03:43 -0500
From: "Paul Jordan" <pjordan@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

Notch chet, but I'm just a measely Hammer owner in NY ....

----- Original Message -----
From: James Voos <jvoos@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 12:25 AM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Anyone seen the Christmas specials
yet?

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check

when

it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:38:39 -0500
From: "Seth Honeyman" <shoneyma@...>
Subject: Waiting for Santa

No catalog here in Albany, NY either. Looks like Wolfqang was right about
two weeks in the snailer.






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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:50:31 -0000
From: jim@...
Subject: Christmas Catalog

I was concerned since I had not seen the Christmas catalog as yet so
I called Felder-USA yesterday. Really just wanted to make sure my
name was "on the list" and it was. Guess it is the same old
story "the check's in the mail."

They did say they would send me a copy if I did not see the catalog
in the next couple of days.





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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:18:48 -0800
From: Charlie Norton <cnorton@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

I've rec'd the lastest Christmas Felder catalog.

At 05:25 AM 11/28/2000 +0000, you wrote:

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:29:25 -0600
From: "Fred Julius" <fredj@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

Brian.. I received my Holiday catalog on Monday 11/27/00. I live in
Illinois.
Fred

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From: Brian and Karen Lamb <bklamb1@...>
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
Date: Mon, Nov 27, 2000, 6:28 PM

Still waiting in Arizona! Hopefully soon.
Brian

James Voos wrote:

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Carefree, AZ
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:29:45 -0000
From: "Rod Boston" <rboston@...>
Subject: Christmas catalog

Received the sale catalog last week (about Wed.) but I am in So. Cal.
Rod B.



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:32:39 -0500
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

I think my wife must have intercepted mine and hidden it.

Steve

At 07:18 AM 11/28/00 -0800, you wrote:

I've rec'd the lastest Christmas Felder catalog.

At 05:25 AM 11/28/2000 +0000, you wrote:

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:41:07 -0800
From: "Scott Slater" <scott@...>
Subject: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded

Hi -

Since I am the moderator of the Files section, I felt it my duty to provide
all members with an equal chance to view the Christmas catalog. All I want
is a fair and accurate ability for you ALL to spend your money. I do not
want any disenfranchised Felder owners. Barring any contests or Supreme
Court challenges, the scans will be in the Files section.

Scott Slater
www.studiouw.com




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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:43:43 -0800
From: "Scott Slater" <scott@...>
Subject: RE: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded

I forgot to mention, that I did not scan pages 12-17 since they are only
photos of the 700 Series machines.


Since I am the moderator of the Files section, I felt it my duty to provide
all members with an equal chance to view the Christmas catalog. All I want
is a fair and accurate ability for you ALL to spend your money. I do not
want any disenfranchised Felder owners. Barring any contests or Supreme
Court challenges, the scans will be in the Files section.





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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:15:12 -0000
From: "John Gubb" <john.gubb@...>
Subject: Re: Electric brake on saw?



Jason on my machine 5 seconds

John Gubb
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Gant <rjasong@...>
To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Electric brake on saw?

Hi Folks,

I'm just curious, how long does it take for your saw blades to come
to a complete stop once you've pressed the stop button? Mine takes
16-17 seconds using a 12" blade, and it coasts to a gradual
stop. I was thinkin' my machine would have a brake that would kick in
quickly and bring the blade to an abrupt hault. Is there an
aftermarket brake I could fit to my machine?

thanks, Jason G


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:10:46 -0500
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
Subject: RE: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded

At 08:43 AM 11/28/00 -0800, you wrote:

I forgot to mention, that I did not scan pages 12-17 since they are only
photos of the 700 Series machines.

What?! Every page counts! You should include pages 12-17 and re-scan
pages 18-24. Additionally, the specials listed on pages 4-7 are improperly
formatted and should not be scanned. This is not about trying to get more
photos of the 700 Series machines, this is about fairness!



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:21:02 -0000
From: "John Gubb" <john.gubb@...>
Subject: Re: Christmas Catalog

Hi all, have my catalogue (note the spelling !!) UK post Vote for a
President on mailing features !!

John Gubb
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From: jim@... <jim@...>
To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 2:50 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Christmas Catalog

I was concerned since I had not seen the Christmas catalog as yet so
I called Felder-USA yesterday. Really just wanted to make sure my
name was "on the list" and it was. Guess it is the same old
story "the check's in the mail."

They did say they would send me a copy if I did not see the catalog
in the next couple of days.




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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:46:18 -0000
From: mhamester@...
Subject: Re: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded


Scott,
Thanks for the scans! The Christmas catalog hasn't made it to
the Tampa-St. Pete area as of yet either. As a new used-Felder owner
(a 6-31 Compact that probably belonged to a FOG member), I just
wanted to say thanks for the additional opportunity for my
credit-card company to make money.

As a Floridian, I am concerned about dimpled scans, and feel that
a rescan is the only fair way to resolve this important issue, not
just for me, but for FOGdom as a whole. My state Supreme Court will
be looking at the egroup rules and policies, and may have to take an
active role in rewriting them as they see fit. I believe six of the
seven Justices own Laguna products and the other owns a Unisaw.

Regards to all, and please forgive the attempt at satire.

Mark

--- In felder-woodworking@..., "Scott Slater" <scott@s...>
wrote:

Hi -

Since I am the moderator of the Files section, I felt it my duty to

provide

all members with an equal chance to view the Christmas catalog. All

I want

is a fair and accurate ability for you ALL to spend your money. I

do
not

want any disenfranchised Felder owners. Barring any contests or

Supreme

Court challenges, the scans will be in the Files section.

Scott Slater
www.studiouw.com

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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:30:47 -0000
From: "Dan Schultz" <dschultz@...>
Subject: Re: Bandsaw tracking question

Steve-

I have nothing but complaints about my LT 16 bandsaw. Initially, I
adjusted the bottom wheel (co-planarity) so the 1/8" blade would run
in the same position on both wheels. My biggest complaint is that
the
adjustment of the bottom wheel was blade dependent, big time. Every
different blade I put on I was constantly adjusting the bottom wheel
to get the blades to track properly.

I also think the blade guides are weird. The discs are so large you
can't tell where you are on the blade and a lot of times when I put
on
a different blade I'm getting sparks until I adjust the guides
differently. Why not rollers that travel alongside the blade?

I also think it's extraordinarily noisy. I knew I should have bought
the Felder bandsaw!!

Dan







--- In felder-woodworking@..., Steve Kusterer <spkerer@m...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I finished the workshop wiring in my garage this weekend. Now

that I'm

powering up my bandsaw, I'm unsure of the blade tracking. The saw

is a

Laguna LT16HD (16", 3HP).

So far, I've only tried the 1/4" blade. I can adjust the top

wheel such

that when I manually spin the wheel the blade rides with just the

teeth

hanging over the front edge of the wheel. However, as soon as I

power on

the saw, the blade immediately moves back on the wheel until the

rear blade

guide stops it from going any further. I do have a 1 1/4" blade I

haven't

powered up (again, I can get it adjusted fine for manual turning of

the

wheels).

What am I missing? It's not supposed to do that, right? Is

that

behavior a sign of under- or over-tensioning the blade? What else

should I

check?

Thanks... Steve

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:42:07 -0500
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Bandsaw tracking question

Hi Dan,

I have the LT16HD, which I believe is a bit beefier than the LT16. I
was contacted by Laguna and they said that the saw I have was one that they
received with the uncrowned wheels. While they offered to exchange the
wheels if I wanted, I'm having them send the crowning jig instead (seems
like less work). We'll see how it turns out.

As far as the noise, my reaction was the opposite. I put on the
headphones and prepared myself as I powered it up for the first time. I
couldn't believe how quiet it is. 3 HP, 220V and nice and quiet. The
Felder is remarkably quiet to me compared to my old Delta contractors saw.

I'm not giving up on the LT16HD at this point. While you haven't been
happy with your LT16, I've also heard from people that are happy with saws
from Laguna. I'm not trying to insult you or seem like a Laguna bigot, I'm
just giving them a fair chance.

Steve

At 09:30 PM 11/28/00 +0000, you wrote:

Steve-

I have nothing but complaints about my LT 16 bandsaw. Initially, I
adjusted the bottom wheel (co-planarity) so the 1/8" blade would run
in the same position on both wheels. My biggest complaint is that
the
adjustment of the bottom wheel was blade dependent, big time. Every
different blade I put on I was constantly adjusting the bottom wheel
to get the blades to track properly.

I also think the blade guides are weird. The discs are so large you
can't tell where you are on the blade and a lot of times when I put
on
a different blade I'm getting sparks until I adjust the guides
differently. Why not rollers that travel alongside the blade?

I also think it's extraordinarily noisy. I knew I should have bought
the Felder bandsaw!!

Dan







--- In felder-woodworking@..., Steve Kusterer <spkerer@m...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I finished the workshop wiring in my garage this weekend. Now

that I'm

powering up my bandsaw, I'm unsure of the blade tracking. The saw

is a

Laguna LT16HD (16", 3HP).

So far, I've only tried the 1/4" blade. I can adjust the top

wheel such

that when I manually spin the wheel the blade rides with just the

teeth

hanging over the front edge of the wheel. However, as soon as I

power on

the saw, the blade immediately moves back on the wheel until the

rear blade

guide stops it from going any further. I do have a 1 1/4" blade I

haven't

powered up (again, I can get it adjusted fine for manual turning of

the

wheels).

What am I missing? It's not supposed to do that, right? Is

that

behavior a sign of under- or over-tensioning the blade? What else

should I

check?

Thanks... Steve

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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:54:30 -0000
From: "Jim Overton" <jimo@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

US Postal Service has found Texas...the catalog arrived today,

Jim


--- In felder-woodworking@..., Steve Kusterer <spkerer@m...>
wrote:

I think my wife must have intercepted mine and hidden it.

Steve

At 07:18 AM 11/28/00 -0800, you wrote:

I've rec'd the lastest Christmas Felder catalog.

At 05:25 AM 11/28/2000 +0000, you wrote:

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check

when

it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:55:21 EST
From: lse872139@...
Subject: Re: rjasong@... Electric brake on saw?

In a message dated 28/11/00 17:14:30 GMT Standard Time, john.gubb@...
writes:

<< felder-woodworking@... >>



Hi Jason

What machine do you have,?
Is it a Felder universal or a single machine?

If it is a universal, then time, the other operations stopping time, to see
if they differ and how much.
If it is just a saw unit on it own then your brake is definitely not
working.
It should only take around about 5 - 8 seconds.

I can advise if you wish I have been installing setting up and servicing
Felder M/Cs for over 2,1/2 years and have been a woodworking Engineer for
over 19years.

How old is your machine ?

You will find that the transformer has gone or the rectifier or both this
disables the brake but still allows you to work the machine.

Are you running your machine via a Phase converter If so then it is wired in
incorrectly there is an artificial Phase on the Brake circuit.

HOPE to be of some HELP

Best regards TONY LATHAM :)
WOODWORKING ENGINEER.



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:56:51 -0000
From: "Ron Zimmerman" <ron_zimmerman@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

Jim,
Got mine yesterday. I guess being 50 miles closer to Sacramento must
help.
Ron Zimmerman

--- In felder-woodworking@..., "James Voos" <jvoos@p...>
wrote:

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check

when

it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim

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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:06:05 -0000
From: glennwarner@...
Subject: New machine delivery

Received my cf-41 yesterday. Still remembering the home delivery
experience of a bf-26 twelve years ago and some recent horror shows
from fellow fog members, I opted to pick up the new machine at the
freight terminal. I hired a flatbed auto transport and accompanied
the driver to the terminal about 60 miles from home. Felder pallet
was on and secured within 20 minutes.

When we got home I thought the best I could do was slide the pallet
onto my driveway and rent a pallet jack to go the last 10 feet and
through the double doors of my shop. Actually it was much simpler
than this. He was able to back the bed of the truck right up to the
doors and telescope the machine right inside. Now all I have to do
is install the mobility kit and roll the machine off the pallet.

From this experience I would highly reccommend this option. For me it
was cheaper than the freight companies residential delivery charge,
hassle free, and no sore muscles.

Now back to unpacking. So many pieces, so little time. I'll check in
again as the saga unfolds.


glenn warner



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