Thanks Andy. Do you think vertical middle supports in the top (4’ section) and ?bottom (2’ section) be sufficient, as opposed to from top to bottom?
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On Feb 8, 2025, at 2:22?PM, Andy via groups.io <andy.raynor08@...> wrote:
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I do a lot of frameless cabinets with the Lamello. I wouldn’t recommend a 4 foot wide assembly with no center support. ?
On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 1:17?PM imranindiana via <imranindiana=
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This discussion is pertinent to my next project. I plan to build 2 nearly 4’ wide frameless cabinets to flank each side of the murphy bed. These will be 16” deep up to ~24” from floor. Then there is a shelf (end table). Above shelf, the depth will be reduced to 12”. The top section will be nearly 4’ wide and 4’ tall with 2 doors. Below shelf currently there are 2 doors but I am trying to convince my SIL to go with drawers. With drawers the width will need to be reduced to 1/2 - 2 side by side drawers.
I am considering getting Lamello P2 as I need to assemble it away from shop. P2 seems ideal for such assembly.
With P2 joinery, is this ~7’ tall cabinet too wide? Should I make two 2’ wide cabinets instead? I rather not have the middle partition in the open shelf area, so an option could be a middle partition in the top and bottom halves. If going with drawers below shelf, then the lower part will have a partition, regardless
On Feb 8, 2025, at 12:22?PM, David P. Best via <dbestworkshop=
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?Mac, I’ve done all types, but I much prefer to do an insert door/drawer with a frameless cabinet - similar to what Joe mentions.? My clients seem to like this as well since it brings a contemporary flair to an otherwise traditional cabinet design.? Ultimately the choice has a lot to do with the overall design esthetic of the home/room, with victorian at one end, and modern at the other.? Most of the situations I run into (and prefer to work on) are traditional homes that are being updated in the design esthetic without going hard over to full contemporary cabinets.? Some examples are shown below the employ this inset frameless build style.
This piece is solid cherry, and the case perimeter is 22mm thickness for both the upper and lower units. Because the client preferred traditional butt hinges, the door/drawer faces are aligned with the cabinet sides.? Obviously, if contemporary hardware iwere used, the doors/drawer faces can be recessed as desired.? Build log is?. ?
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Below is the companion buffet piece in the same kitchen with a more traditional frame/panel end caps but with flush inset doors/drawers to tie in to the other painted cabinet details in the background.? Build log?.
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In the example below, the cabinet boxes are 30mm thick (18+12mm thick ApplyPly sandwich) with 4mm hardwood edging on the front giving the impression of face frame detailing.? The doors/drawers are recessed 4mm and employ Blum hinges and undermount slides providing a nice reveal, while at the same time bringing in a contemporary flavor to an otherwise traditional (1940’s) home.? Build log is.
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The cabinets below are three units (for transport) stacked vertically.? Note the reveal around the perimeter of the entire assembly.? The door is a square edge profile with over-width styles & rails - I called it “contemporary Shaker”.?
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?Couple things come to mind I’ve been watching a series called for the love of kitchens. The manufacturer is Duval based in London and Brooklyn, I believe.
More traditional with freestanding furniture. Second thing that I’m always interested in is the pros and cons of face frame no face frame. I built both and I’m just not sure what I like. I’m interested in what other people have done and what they think about the whole concepts.
Mac,,,
Designing and building for 50 years
On Feb 7, 2025, at 6:36?PM, Branden Helgason via <brandenhelgason=[email protected]> wrote:
?Hi All,
We’re rebuilding our house and will need kitchen cabinets and bathroom vanities.? I had grand illusions of building the cabinets myself, even convinced my wife it was possible… ?haha ?Lots of stuff going on and I have a day job, I need to purchase.
Like the Outsourced draw box discussion, any recommendations for custom, but reasonably priced cabinets?? I found that sells Conestoga cabinets, they look very nice!? I got a sample from Barker cabinets (much nicer than I expected).? RTA.
Any other good options? Any small shops??? Assembled and local would be cool too. ?:) ??In San Jose CA.
Thanks
Branden
imran