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Re: Wax/oil finishes


 

Hey Joe

Do you wait until the Rubio is cured fully to apply a poly top coat?? I¡¯ve considered putting poly over some pieces that get a lot of wear but the manufacturers don¡¯t recommend it.?

For osmo I¡¯ve found that using their extra thin clear product before a coat of polyx yields great results, especially on walnut.?



On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 6:12?AM Joe Calhoon via <joecalhoon=[email protected]> wrote:
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Hi Lucky,
I have only been using the Saicos premium hard wax oil on my home projects and the yurt I built for my son. I know they have other products but that¡¯s the only one I have used. I used some Osmo years ago and it seemed to work the same but certainly have not put the research into this like you have. When I first started using these I felt like the build and protection was not so good wiping that first coat off. Hence going to leaving a heavy coat on the first application. It does dry fairly coarse and needs sanding with 320. The 320 is a hold over from my hard finish days but getting the sheen and feel I like. I just use the microfiber roller they sell and leaving the material on without wiping doesn¡¯t seem like the type roller matters much.
I¡¯m not using Hardwax oil for any exterior work. I have been using the Saicos UV exterior oil for this applied the same way. I have tried several of the European exterior oils and also US made Heritage Oil. It used to be made locally. They are all similar, with exterior oil the recoating and maintenance is necessary depending on exposure.

Now for my bar project I¡¯m using Rubio only because I like the way their stains go on. Not a fan of staining anything but an old fashioned bar calls for it. And the customer is always right! Or should we say - he with the gold makes the rules! The color is coming out good but the one coat just doesn¡¯t seem like enough. I plan to use the sheen additive for a second coat. I did not see any reason to use the hardener since it will be a while before it is even installed.
I talked to a guy that came to Alpine a few years ago that was using Rubio. He has since gone from a one man shop to a full on architectural shop with employees. He said he was getting a lot of callback on Rubio finished horizontal work. He started adding N3 Nano to the topcoat and said that helped some but said he finally set up a spray booth using Poly and conversion varnish.
For my bar tops I am going to go over the Rubio with Poly. Bars I built 20 to 30 years ago we finishe the bar tops with poly and easy to refinish when necessary. Conversion varnish is tougher but very difficult to refinish in the field.





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