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Re: Shaper question


 

I don¡¯t have a lot of input to offer, but I¡¯ve run many thousands of feet of siding through shapers with feeders and I¡¯d be shocked if you could find a mag-base with enough force to for a feeder. The forces they generate can be quite high.

If you¡¯re primarily using the shaper with a feeder I don¡¯t believe the slider adds much value. I¡¯ve made cope and stick doors on the shaper with a sliding jig. That likely would have been easier with a slider!

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 10:50 AM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Brett, I would hand scrape the profiles before I would ever buy a Griz.?
There are a ton of used shapers here?
?but may not be worth the expense if I don¡¯t plan on doing much shaping.?
Scm has a fixed shaft sliding shaper, looks like it is sized like the hammer for like $5500 but if i got a shaper i think i would want a tilting one.?

I have a jessem router life with a bosch in it so maybe that¡¯s the way to go. 1/4 hp feeder at shop gear is $750ish wonder if I could fab something up with a mag base to stick on the saw.?

Regards, Mark

On Jun 28, 2022, at 1:32 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:

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In my opinion you need no less than a Martin T29 to complete that job..?

On Jun 28, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:

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Mark,?

If you are willing to compromise, you could?probably do okay on this job with a 3/4" Grizzly shaper and some brazed carbide joint cutters. But, man, the feeling of running a "compromised" machine, I can't imagine you'd stay satisfied with it for very long. I bet a good router table setup would provide comparable results and give you more versatility in the long run.?

-Brett

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 10:14 AM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
?I have an order for a friend that i have no business doing but was convinced after a year to do it.

It is interior shutters for 11-12 windows approximately 45¡± x 90¡±. There will be uppers and lowers 22.5¡± tall x 4 shutters wide (there is 1 or 2 that are wider that will be 6 shutters wide). They will be paint grade and the existing ones they tell me are painted red oak and would like the new ones the same. Most all of them are raised panel both sides with cope and stick the louvered ones are are just s4s and the louver is standard curve profile on one side flat on the other. Material thickness is 1¡±.

I was planning on just using a router table with a power feeder for the stick, cope and louver profile, I didn¡¯t want to buy a shaper because it¡¯s not like I will be doing these type of things in the future but after doing some rough numbers looks like 1000 lnft of profile and 350-400 cope cuts, plus the raised panel on both sides, we are talking 88-100 individual shutters.

I was thinking i could get away this one time with router and feeder, thoughts?

Or go shaper, I had shapers in the past but only ever ran profiles on them I subbed all my doors out. If i was to do a shaper it would probably be used, is a sliding table the way to go, There are a lot of used shapers without sliding tables on the market with power feeders for under 3k, i would love to eliminate my router table so something that I could run Routerbits would be good as well. I was thinking about that little hammer but honestly I don¡¯t think i could do Felder.


Regards, Mark




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