First, i dont think you will look back once you get the slider and use it for an hour, Keith. It is a better designed saw in just about every way with two minor/major drawbacks. One, the physical and working footprint is sometimes substantially larger than a cabinet saw. Two, rips longer than the stroke of your sliding table are annoying on a slider. An 8-9' machine would eliminate?the latter critique. It is not often i rip things longer than 9'. As for the real estate, if you have the room, then its not a problem. If you dont have the room, the outrigger and crosscut fence pop off the Felder machines pretty easily, which frees up a lot of real estate when not in use. I do this from time to time, because my basement shop is cramped. Ive never had an issue with my crosscut fence being out of alignment after replacing the outrigger. When I purchased my KF700, i sold my jessem router table, delta unisaw, festool mft, and festool kapex. All of those tools combined occupied about the same footprint, and their proceeds covered 50-70% of the Felder's cost. I would describe the KF700 as infinitely more capable than that collection of tools.?
As to the 2002 KF700 in question, im sure its a well-cared for machine, but you would almost have to pay me to take it. That is pre-xroll, which significantly decreases its value to anyone looking at it. I havent used this vintage of Felder, but im sure its fine in operation; however, you are a year or two before Felder went to a design that it still utilizes 17 years later. Second, no dado option on that vintage, i believe. This is kind of an issue for me if this is going to be my only saw. Finally, as others point out, accessories, single phase vs 3 phase, and condition play an enormous role in determining market value. I havent?followed stuff as closely the last year, and we are definitely in a different world, but that machine two years ago would have been $3,500+/- with limited accessories.?
Patrick
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:44 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: Keith,
There are many variables and accessories making it hard to use sale data. A machine used by a hobbiest is infinitely more desirable. Occasionally, a machine may come for sale from a business that for some reason did not get used but in general I avoid that.
Keep in mind that this is a big investment for most and these are hard/expensive to transport. You can easily spend $500 to check a machine out and $1000 to transport. If you are in CA, these number may be considerably less as most machines come up in that market. So don¡¯t discount the fact that you have found something ¡°known¡± and I assume it is close by.
Here is a machine that recently sold. I helped this family with pricing their equipment. If you need to contact me my number is 765-210-7645. Just to be clear for folks here and you this help is offered free of charge.
Here is a lesser machine currently at an auction ending in few days:
Here is my take on your question. A fair price for a well kept machine should be 65% of what your friend paid for it. Another way, to arrive at the price is to price a new machine and you should not be paying more than 50% of new.
Hope this helps.
Imran ?Thanks so much for the feedback. I think there is just The apprehension of going from something I know (cabinet saw)to a new way of working with a machine like the Felder. I will be able to work with the machine at my friends shop to Practice on it. Really appreciate the help On Jul 26, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
?Slider vs. cabinet saw is a no brainer, the quality of work goes up considerably and the speed that you can complete it drops dramatically. The safety factor on a slider is worth considering too, with clamps to hold the material in place, you never need to get your hands close to a blade, or stand in line with possible kickback.
?Thank you so much. I will look at the slider to verify the size. I am just in the process of determining whether or not to get a song like this in place of my cabinets. I am a hobbyist bud appreciate good quality but I am still searching the pros and cons of this versus a cabinet saw. Any direction you can send me would be greatly appreciated. On Jul 26, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
?I have a 2001 machine¡ is your slider 8 foot or 9 foot? You can¡¯t really cut 8¡¯ sheets on an 8¡¯ machine without having the blade at full height and a 12¡± blade. I have some troubles with the 9 foot slider and a fence with clamps.
As for worth, based on older sales, I¡¯d guess in the $7500 range, but with the current situation on extended deliveries, that might go up a bit, especially depending upon accessories and condition.
looking into purchasing a ?KF 700 pro, 2002 model from the friend and trying to determine value of it. It has the 8 foot sliding table and numerous attachments. It is in excellent shape and has been well cared for. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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