Patrick and others, is it your perception than covid has helped the woodworking hobby market?? Metalworking machines seem down but single phase woodworking machines have firmed up.? I'd be selling the Aigner stuff separately, probably the DGL too, and price the KF in the 8-9K range depending on the spindles, feeder, and what else goes with it.? I agree that J-P can go for less, 5K in the 700 series, 6-7K for the 900 series.? I paid full value for my Bauerle 25" J-P and it was in the 7-8K range.? The build on the Bauerle is Martin like but it is still a combo machine with the good and bad that goes with it.? Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 2:07 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] KF700sp and AD741 used pricing

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Hey Dave,

I responded initially saying it was over priced. Here’s my opinion on the matter, but I’ll preface by saying I hope the son gets his price and has a smooth transaction.?

Now, for valuation, I watch used sales quite a bit—not as much as imran, but a bit. Over the years, I’ve seen a dozen CF731 and CF741 of that chartreuse era sell for $7-12,000. Maybe not with every single option and accessory listed here, but close enough to compare. That is 1/2-1/3rd of this guy’s asking price, but he has separates. I agree, they are more valuable. I purchased a 2005 KF700 for $4k. No scoring, only 79-80” stroke. I have the optional guard and I received a router spindle and blades. This KF700s is worth a lot more with its configuration, but 3x? The JP was already discussed that new it’s around $8k. I thought the 941 was $11kish? I remember 4 recent examples of 741’s selling in the $4-5,000 range. I’m not a professional appraiser, but I think that KF is worth $8,000, the JP is $5,000, and the tooling is a few grand more. This equipment is a niche and doesn’t track the same way a sawstop or festool track saw would on the used market.? In my observations, SCMI/Felder combo machines depreciate like a lead balloon. Anyway, those are my opinions and observations. Like David mentions, I would spend the same money on the T72A martin on woodweb/Craigslist and any given freestanding shaper.?

Patrick

On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:51 AM David Sabo via <sabo_dave=[email protected]> wrote:

For all you guys that think this overpriced, would share why you believe that ?

Can you get similar machines in your area for less?? ?For less from a national used machinery dealer?? ?Does the condition not warrant the price ? Just that it’s old ?

Is new, similar spec’d just a better value ?

Dave