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Even if you decide on new, take a look at panel saws- sliding on the machinery exchange on Woodweb.? That will give you an idea of price ranges for commercial sliders.? Add 1500 for an RPC and 1500 to handle the Oh Crap repair stuff and you have an idea of
what a heavy build, 16" three speed saw with scoring will run worse case scenario.? Might not be where you want to go but when you get into the 10' table size, build matters.? I would set the 700 series as my bottom end build for larger saws.? Keep in mind
that an F90 doesn't tilt to discount those.? Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 8:32 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] news slider table recommendations ?
Hi CJ?
I'll give my two cents, as someone who has been building furniture for a living?for 20 years. First of all, I'd never spend $10K on a new saw. There are so many used sliders on the market since cabinet shops no longer really want them around. You can pick
up Altendorf and SCMI sliders for significantly less money than that. I bought my Panhans, 10'+ stroke for $2500 including probably $1000 worth of blades. The thing is basically bomb proof. Just made my first repair on it in a dozen years, a $30 switch for
the scoring motor. You have to be careful what you buy, you don't want something that was abused by a bunch of employees. If you are sold on Felder, they come up used often as well. If you're going to spend close to 10K, you can probably get a late model K700,
or KF on the used market. One good thing is they usually come out of hobby shops or small pro shops with an employee or two. We have 2 KF700's in our coop shop, both with the 80" stroke. I'd never have a slider that short as my only saw, unless you only build
furniture out of solid wood and rarely handle sheet goods.
Plan on bringing in 3 phase if it's an option, or going the phase converter route. I personally would not buy a Felder with a built in VFD. Both of our machines have had issues. They are 2001 vintage. Part acquisition was a nightmare too. I'm talking a
month plus of down time. Having the ability to run any 3 phase machine opens lots of possibilities. Single phase machines always fetch too much money on the used market since the market is so much bigger.
I have not personally used or seen a K500, or the other saw you mentioned so I cannot speak to them. Don't be afraid to look at used. Sliders are simple machines (or can be). My Panhans was built mid 80's and performs like a champ every single day. I was
straight line ripping 11' long 8/4 white oak on it over the weekend. I just had to remove one clamp to get the full length. A thing of beauty.
Jason
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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